Richt leaves UGA for the circus...natural transition

u guys are delusional if u think bobby ross ran a clean program.

I live in the real world, where college football and college hoops are billion dollar businesses.

but I completely respect your position hivered and others along with you, I shouldn't have worded my post the way I did.

hypothetical question: if a Tech grad now is a delivery driver for a certain company, and he literally has trouble speaking and reading, what would you say happened? And how does that reflect on the institute? I only ask because you went into detail about the academics involved at Tech?

and do u guys remember the Reuben Houston ordeal? That guy was pushing 40lbs of marijuana down I-20

Reuben was essentially cleared of any wrongdoing with exception of stupidity. He is a good young man from a solid family in suburban Atlanta...a low risk take as a scholarship athlete. The fact is that GT occurances are few and far between...while they are commonplace and accepted at others. Heck..the off-season before last Tennessee had 7 different players arrested in separate incidents! The culture of the GT football team is not one where thug-like behavior is acceptable.

I will agree that not all coaches at GT have held to the standard as to who they recruited...and I will not get into which ones. Some of it is evident as you see their behavior after they moved on from GT.

To get to your question about the truck driver. There is no way in the world a student gets through Georgia Tech with a degree that cannot read or write. MAYBE 25-30 years ago someone could have slipped through...but not these days. They may say they went to GT and got their degree...but I would first doubt it.

That being said...just because you have a degree that does not guarantee success. I know an Ivy League business grad that works for $9.00/hr in customer service and she was not even an athlete!! You still have to work hard...take risks...be a bit opportunistic...and be able to network and negotiate. By the same token, you can not go to college at all and still work your way to the top in many industries. It may be more difficult getting out of the gate...but anyone can do it.

My point...you can always find isolated incidents that violate any general assumption. That is what you call acceptable variance. However, I am talking about statistical probability....the culture...the general rule....and you cannot deny that the culture of the GT student-athlete is more aligned with the Vandy, Wake, Duke, Purdue, Notre Dame, Stanford, etc. of the world than the Alabama's, Georgia's, Tennessee's, etc...and I am proud that it is different.
 
Reuben was essentially cleared of any wrongdoing with exception of stupidity. He is a good young man from a solid family in suburban Atlanta...a low risk take as a scholarship athlete. The fact is that GT occurances are few and far between...while they are commonplace and accepted at others. Heck..the off-season before last Tennessee had 7 different players arrested in separate incidents! The culture of the GT football team is not one where thug-like behavior is acceptable.

I will agree that not all coaches at GT have held to the standard as to who they recruited...and I will not get into which ones. Some of it is evident as you see their behavior after they moved on from GT.

To get to your question about the truck driver. There is no way in the world a student gets through Georgia Tech with a degree that cannot read or write. MAYBE 25-30 years ago someone could have slipped through...but not these days. They may say they went to GT and got their degree...but I would first doubt it.

That being said...just because you have a degree that does not guarantee success. I know an Ivy League business grad that works for $9.00/hr in customer service and she was not even an athlete!! You still have to work hard...take risks...be a bit opportunistic...and be able to network and negotiate. By the same token, you can not go to college at all and still work your way to the top in many industries. It may be more difficult getting out of the gate...but anyone can do it.

My point...you can always find isolated incidents that violate any general assumption. That is what you call acceptable variance. However, I am talking about statistical probability....the culture...the general rule....and you cannot deny that the culture of the GT student-athlete is more aligned with the Vandy, Wake, Duke, Purdue, Notre Dame, Stanford, etc. of the world than the Alabama's, Georgia's, Tennessee's, etc...and I am proud that it is different.

yes, the GT student-athlete is definitely different, and I too am proud of that.

the Tech grad i mentioned earlier, he graduated in '91 and he WAS an athlete. A damn good one too, a GT football legend actually. Maybe it was an isolated incident, but the fact is it happened.

I don't want u to misunderstand me here, I definitely do not want our players getting in any kind of trouble off the field. But on the field.....this is where we differ.. I do want our players to run around and dance and talk smack after big plays, I do want that. I'm a fan of that and so are the players, but there's a line out there that doesn't need to be crossed therefore its dangerous to even let your players do that. I realize that. I'm a fairly young individual, I grew up (still growing up) at the same time these players did, they like hip hop and they like to make it rain. They like to show some swagger out on that field, they feed off of it and the other players do to.

We have one of the best football traditions in the country, and I wouldn't trade it, I would just like to add to it ya know.
 
and do u guys remember the Reuben Houston ordeal? That guy was pushing 40lbs of marijuana down I-20
No, he wasn't. Is this the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time you've posted that LIE on Stingtalk? I've lost track.

He was photographed by an overly excitable DEA agent with HIS SON'S DIAPER BAG, and then was BLACKBALLED by the Georgia Tech administration before the charges were ever brought to bear in court, because he was a black athlete and they wanted to look "tough on crime" while the NCAA was breathing down their necks for THEIR ****up that got us on probation.
 
No, he wasn't. Is this the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time you've posted that LIE on Stingtalk? I've lost track.


are u smokin what was in the bag beej? when have i ever even brought this up until now?

i'm waiting.......

But u are right kinda, i guess i was lying about the quantity. Because it wasn't 40lbs.....it was 94lbs!!! :laugher:
 
Reuben was essentially cleared of any wrongdoing with exception of stupidity.


I'm sorry but that's not correct, at all.

He was reinstated because a judge decided that UNTIL he was found guilty then he should be allowed to play.

AFTER the season, in April 2006, he was sentenced to 9 months probation as part of a plea deal.

you don't get sentenced to 9 months probation if you've 'been cleared' of everything. It would've been a lot worse had he not taken the deal.
 
I'm sorry but that's not correct, at all.

He was reinstated because a judge decided that UNTIL he was found guilty then he should be allowed to play.

AFTER the season, in April 2006, he was sentenced to 9 months probation as part of a plea deal.

you don't get sentenced to 9 months probation if you've 'been cleared' of everything. It would've been a lot worse had he not taken the deal.

I said ESSENTIALLY CLEARED....when you get 9 months probation when onced federally charged as a elony....that is called an embarrassed US Prosecutor.

Even if he did...as I said...the incidents are isolated...not the 5-7 per year you see at the factories.
 
Again, you're wrong. His crime was being in a car with a drug dealer, agreeing to introduce him to another drug dealer, then chickening out and asking to be let out of the car. With a diaper bag. With no weed in it. That's what he did, it's all he did, and it's what he got probation for.

Because it wasn't 40lbs.....it was 94lbs!!! :laugher:
It was zero pounds, zero ounces, zero grams, zilch, nada, zero.

Idiot.
 
beej it was a friggin conspiracy i tell u :fingersx:



wow, some people.......

No, it was The Hill, in the middle of self-reporting a major NCAA infraction that was their own fault.

I don't expect you to understand, since you didn't go to Tech, but The Hill is like the DMV times a thousand.
 
definitely

:D we're all on the same team here.

I'll play devil's advocate every once in a while if necessary.
 
It's gonna be a circus all right....when we hang 50 on that pathetic defense in your own yard. :biggthumpup:
 
It's gonna be a circus all right....when we hang 50 on that pathetic defense in your own yard. :biggthumpup:

Well I doubt you'll hang 50 on us in "our yard" b/c the game will take place on a football field...Guess you missed that extra credit question on Jim Herrick's exam.
For an extra 80 bonus points:
The game of football is played on:
a. football field
b. yard
c. hardwood court
d. a patch of grass between two trailers
e. both b & d.

Oh it must be fun to be an opposing fan b/w shifts coming on rivals message boards & posting non sense like the mutt fans who seem to think it SO FUNNY to include "tickle pile" in every reply to EVERY GT article in the AJC.....but then again I guess they always hate coming in and saying "Morning Boss" (the GT graduate) during the work week...So maybe a week from this upcoming Saturday you should cheer for GT your next annual raise depends on it.
 
That "Good Morning Boss" to the GT grad thing is the BEST you can come up with? Hell, I thought this was a football board. Why dont you explain why Chan wasn't fired years ago?
 
That "Good Morning Boss" to the GT grad thing is the BEST you can come up with? Hell, I thought this was a football board. Why dont you explain why Chan wasn't fired years ago?


Wow, what a childish piece of white trash you are. How many welfare checks did you have to save up to afford your computer and internet connection?
 
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