Shamire up to 380lbs

BainbridgeJacket said:
If the kid doesn't have the desire, the coaches have two options:
1. Whine about it like they've done to this point.
2. Force him to do the right things by giving him the reps they say he can't handle.

We've tried 1 on many players during the CPJ tenure and it hasn't worked. Cut the bullshit and try 2. They'll either quit and free up a scholarship or they'll reach their potential. Coach needs to get off his high horse where he doesn't think motivation is in his job description.
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That will create 'non safe space' for him since are you now fat shaming him for being different. Do worry I have called this guy to help check you:

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I agree. Let's move on and free up a scholarship. Shamire has had multiple opportunities to get with the program. Lack of discipline here, bleeds over to the entire team. Time to find someone who wants it.

Go Jackets!
 
CPJ won't pull a ship. So best recourse is to just not give him any practice reps. Make his ass run all practice long under the supervision of a fit GA. Commit all reps to players that are in shape enough to contribute. He either gets his weight down or his eligibility runs out and that's that.
 
Never understood this signing. The offense we run and the blocking we want requires athleticism. Particularly, we need kids with good feet and balance. The 310-330 pound offensive tackle is necessary for blocking in most offenses, but not ours. A big kid like Shamire comes in and struggles with our technique and gets little playing time. That's enough to discourage a player and if they are heavy to begin with the weight problem gets worse. If we are going to stay with the spread option, we have to recruit kids who fit our needs, regardless of their recruiting stars.
 
The only person I can think of in the past 10 years that had any significant impact to the game at this weight was Terrence Cody. Devine is 75 lbs over the average playing weight for his position.

Just to put this in perspective, if he gained this weight in 4 months (12 weeks) he would be gaining 2.5lbs a week. Given his height and weight I would guess he is eating a minimum of 3500-3700 calories a day before exercise. Every single day. This guy is probably eating about 4000 calories a day. I don't know how that is physically possible.
 
ScionOfSouthland said:
The only person I can think of in the past 10 years that had any significant impact to the game at this weight was Terrence Cody. Devine is 75 lbs over the average playing weight for his position.

Just to put this in perspective, if he gained this weight in 4 months (12 weeks) he would be gaining 2.5lbs a week. Given his height and weight I would guess he is eating a minimum of 3500-3700 calories a day before exercise. Every single day. This guy is probably eating about 4000 calories a day. I don't know how that is physically possible.
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Micheal Phelps was consuming more than 10,000 calories a day when competing, I read. Of course, he actually was using it as fuel.
 
JJacket said:
Micheal Phelps was consuming more than 10,000 calories a day when competing, I read. Of course, he actually was using it as fuel.
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Sure, when you are swimming 14 hours a day that makes sense.

Devine is doing the equivalent of sitting on the computer all day and eating 7 Big Macs.
 
I went to the coaches clinic yesterday evening and this morning. We were allowed to watch the scrimmage from the sidelines. I saw Shamire alternate in several times, but he appeared either gassed or hurt (probably gassed) with alarming frequency. Coach Johnson's assessment of his own offense was certainly different than mine. I felt the defense controlled the offense with alarming frequency. It seemed to be feast or famine for the O (mostly famine). If Johnson was being sincere about improvement, then I shutter to think how much the defense was eating the Os lunch in previous scrimmages. The biggest mismatch was on the D-line versus O-line. It was pure ownage for the D-line as far as I could tell. The B-backs took the brunt of the punishment as they ran into either a brick wall or linebacker that appeared to come free on almost every play. There was modest improvement as the scrimmage went on, but that was well after an hour (the scrimmage lasted 2 hours).

P.S. It may please you to know that the receivers had a better than expected day. There were VERY few passes that should have been caught that weren't. Now, there were plenty of times that the QB wanted to throw and they were covered, but when Thomas , Jordan, or Marshall did throw a catchable ball, it was caught the vast majority of the time. This and the QB decisions were good, but the O-line play greatly limited the gains that were possible from both run and pass plays.
 
optionqb said:
I went to the coaches clinic yesterday evening and this morning. We were allowed to watch the scrimmage from the sidelines. I saw Shamire alternate in several times, but he appeared either gassed or hurt (probably gassed) with alarming frequency. Coach Johnson's assessment of his own offense was certainly different than mine. I felt the defense controlled the offense with alarming frequency. It seemed to be feast or famine for the O (mostly famine). If Johnson was being sincere about improvement, then I shutter to think how much the defense was eating the Os lunch in previous scrimmages. The biggest mismatch was on the D-line versus O-line. It was pure ownage for the D-line as far as I could tell. The B-backs took the brunt of the punishment as they ran into either a brick wall or linebacker that appeared to come free on almost every play. There was modest improvement as the scrimmage went on, but that was well after an hour (the scrimmage lasted 2 hours).

P.S. It may please you to know that the receivers had a better than expected day. There were VERY few passes that should have been caught that weren't. Now, there were plenty of times that the QB wanted to throw and they were covered, but when Thomas , Jordan, or Marshall did throw a catchable ball, it was caught the vast majority of the time. This and the QB decisions were good, but the O-line play greatly limited the gains that were possible from both run and pass plays.
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Who stood out on the defense?
 
DressCheeseSideSeaboard said:
Who stood out on the defense?
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The DBs all did well on run support. One...I can't remember who...went out after being cut blocked on the perimeter. Freemen, Cerge-Henderson, Gamble and Chungong made life miserable for the O-line up front. I noticed that Brant Mitchell and especially P.J. Davis were bringing the wood. I felt bad for the B-Backs (mainly Marshall and Weimerskirsch) that I saw. They took some shots...but they kept running hard. I was impressed with Weimerskirsh's size....the boy is bigger than I thought. His frame is similar to Laskey's body. To be honest, I was watching the mechanics/assignments if the offense more closely. The most glaring weakness that I saw was the absence of a powerful right guard. This team really misses Shaq. Johnson stated himself that he needs Shamire to be that guy, and that Shamire is making progress slowly with his weight...but he emphasized slowly. Johnson was confident that - with help- he would get his weight down. Not only did it result in Shamire being gassed frequently, but he seems to just be in pain carrying all that weight around. It was weird...from a distance it looked like he was more than just tired...like he was grimacing. Of course, I could be wrong...but I never saw him play more then three plays in row before coming out in a series. Like I said earlier, it's hard to tell if the defense is really that good or if they are just victimizing an offense with a struggling o-line. I think Johnson feels the same way.

The most interesting part of the clinic was the morning session before the scrimmage. About an hour before it started, Johnson and the strength coach, Sisk, met with about 30 of us for a Q and A session. Of course, it was more about coaching related topics, but it was also about proposed NCAA rules changes in the future as well as his opinions about the future of the game. He actually said that he was glad to be closer to the tail end of his career than the other coaches with all the new rules proposals coming down the pike. He says the pressure to change the game in major ways is huge; and that many of the new rules would make the game almost unrecognizable to us. He said there was a significant lobby for make it "targeting" if you tackle a ball-carrier below the knees. It was kinda sad to hear him talk about the future of the sport.

One thing you'll notice this year is that the A-backs will line up partially behind the tackle. No more 1 yard X 1 yard outside the tackle. He said the new rules about cutting imply that the A-backs must basically start within the tackle box. The refs have told him that they will not penalize A-backs that basically "split the crack" of the offensive tackle with their inside foot.

I got to personally speak with Coach Speed (WRs), Coach Owens (A-backs), and Coach Sewak (O-line). I know a lot of people talk crap about Sewak on here, but my God...the man knows his stuff. Whether he's great at teaching to his players is a topic of controversy certainly, but it's amazing how he can recognize and call adjustments to defensive schemes. I knew going into the clinic that the offensive terminology and calls could get complicated, but I was blown away by the complexity of it all. It's no wonder that last years team performed poorly. The learning curve is much higher at all positions than I first thought.
 
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optionqb said:
The DBs all did well on run support. One...I can't remember who...went out after being cut blocked on the perimeter. Freemen, Cerge-Henderson, Gamble and Chungong made life miserable for the O-line up front. I noticed that Brant Mitchell and especially P.J. Davis were bringing the wood. I felt bad for the B-Backs (mainly Marshall and Weimerskirsch) that I saw. They took some shots...but they kept running hard. I was impressed with Weimerskirsh's size....the boy is bigger than I thought. His frame is similar to Laskey's body. To be honest, I was watching the mechanics/assignments if the offense more closely. The most glaring weakness that I saw was the absence of a powerful right guard. This team really misses Shaq. Johnson stated himself that he needs Shamire to be that guy, and that Shamire is making progress slowly with his weight...but he emphasized slowly. Johnson was confident that - with help- he would get his weight down. Not only did it result in Shamire being gassed frequently, but he seems to just be in pain carrying all that weight around. It was weird...from a distance it looked like he was more than just tired...like he was grimacing. Of course, I could be wrong...but I never saw him play more then three plays in row before coming out in a series. Like I said earlier, it's hard to tell if the defense is really that good or if they are just victimizing an offense with a struggling o-line. I think Johnson feels the same way.

The most interesting part of the clinic was the morning session before the scrimmage. About an hour before it started, Johnson and the strength coach, Sisk, met with about 30 of us for a Q and A session. Of course, it was more about coaching related topics, but it was also about proposed NCAA rules changes in the future as well as his opinions about the future of the game. He actually said that he was glad to be closer to the tail end of his career than the other coaches with all the new rules proposals coming down the pike. He says the pressure to change the game in major ways is huge; and that many of the new rules would make the game almost unrecognizable to us. He said there was a significant lobby for make it "targeting" if you tackle a ball-carrier below the knees. It was kinda sad to hear him talk about the future of the sport.

One thing you'll notice this year is that the A-backs will line up partially behind the tackle. No more 1 yard X 1 yard outside the tackle. He said the new rules about cutting imply that the A-backs must basically start within the tackle box. The refs have told him that they will not penalize A-backs that basically "split the crack" of the offensive tackle with their inside foot.

I got to personally speak with Coach Speed (WRs), Coach Owens (A-backs), and Coach Sewak (O-line). I know a lot of people talk crap about Sewak on here, but my God...the man knows his stuff. Whether he's great at teaching to his players is a topic of controversy certainly, but it's amazing how he can recognize and call adjustments to defensive schemes. I knew going into the clinic that the offensive terminology and calls could get complicated, but I was blown away by the complexity of it all. It's no wonder that last years team performed poorly. The learning curve is much higher at all positions than I first thought.
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This is gold. Thanks for taking the time to pass all that along.
 
Hmm... What would O'Leary do?
BainbridgeJacket said:
If the kid doesn't have the desire, the coaches have two options:
1. Whine about it like they've done to this point.
2. Force him to do the right things by giving him the reps they say he can't handle.

We've tried 1 on many players during the CPJ tenure and it hasn't worked. Cut the bullshit and try 2. They'll either quit and free up a scholarship or they'll reach their potential. Coach needs to get off his high horse where he doesn't think motivation is in his job description.
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paul also loves to exaggerate....not sure he is truly 380. He could be 360, his goal is 335 to 340 and paul just says 380....

but it is totally lifestyle....
 
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