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The Jackets are well coached and show a lot of guts and determination unlike the last two games last year. They give teams like FSU, AUB, MD, and NCST a tough time for three quarters but depth finally comes into play and we get beat in the 4th quarter. Let's say two of them are able to score a couple of TD's late and make the score look pretty bad. We get a good win against CLEM and beat WF, UNC, and Vandy. We shock 14th ranked VA at their place but suffer a disappointing loss to a surprising Duke team who has won 4 other games. Early in the season we lose a nail biter to BYU when they kick a last second FG to beat us. Everything finally comes together for Bilbo towards the end of the season and he has a great game against UGA but we lose 27-20. Bilbo looks poised to have a very good jr an sr season and the prospects for a good season in 2004 and 05 are good. So what will your response on this board be to a 5 - 7 season? Also, what if we lose the VA game up their in a thrilling nail biter and we go 4 - 8?

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Sadly 101, I fear that you may be wrong as far as the Admin. & a significant percentage of our fan/supporter base goes.

SouthGa, I would think your scenario would at a minimum provide realistic hope for '04. As for '05 and afterwards, how we recruit this upcoming class with the not so phantom "950" rule, will tell all. THWG
 
Originally posted by ahsoisee:
SouthGa, personally, I think the criteria of Gailey coming back or departing depends on two things.

First, I believe the criteria for his return depends on the way the team plays during the season and not necessarily the wins and losses. Actually, the bar has been set so low, his chances of coming back for the third year is very high.

Secondly, I believe Gailey will give it his all this year and let the chips fall where they may. I believe he will make his own determination at the end of the year, based on his personal prospects for success or failure.

Father Time
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">ahso, painful to say but I would have to agree with you... However, you said you were going to make your own determination on gailey at the end of this coming season.. Can we still count on that, i.e., is there any scenario where you will renege on your word?
 
if gailey can have a season such that we can be hopeful of success in the near future, he's done his job this season.

i'm hopeful of 6 wins this season though.
 
Originally posted by TechFan101:
5-7 is not acceptable here
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">What does "not acceptable' mean? Does it mean that you will abandon GT and seek a team that never goes 5-7? Or never has a losing season? You might as well go now if that's your criterion. Just look at our last 20-25 years.

Does it mean that you would be unhappy for us to have a losing season? Well, join the club.

Does it mean that you'll fire the coaches? Welcome to the board, then, Dr. Clough.

Does it mean that in the present circumstances, you think it is "acceptable" only to win 10-12 games? Welcome to the philosophy of that great thinker, Mick Jagger: "You can't always get what you want."
 
Contrary to board belief, Chan ain't going nowhere. Sure, there'll be an awful lot of hollering if we go 0-12 (myself included) but Chan is here for two more seasons at least. Gut check time! Support this team or please go away for a little while. 5-7 seems to be the best that the (ignorant) pundits will wager but I'm still on the 7-5, 8-4, finishing strong and a bowl fence. The sentiment that CCG should be gone before he gets started or before he matriculates a recruiting class is asinine. We've got to give the man a chance and this is barely going to be year two. TECH fans show your support. Posers, please haunt some other board.
 
BeeBad, yes, at the end of the year, I will give my assessment of his chances of returning for next year. It is possible it will come even sooner according to the outcome of the first six or seven games.

Father Time
 
5-7 keeps us on the downward track that we have been on, Gator Bowl, Peach, Seattle, Silicon Valley, and then no bowl heading into a merger with VT and Miami coming to play, I am saying that 5-7 will be a sign that things are going all wrong and there should huge turnover throughout the program, because once you get in the dumps of a conference as a good academic school digging your way out is all but impossible, Look at Vandy Duke Baylor Northwestern, we are headed down the road of joining the likes of those teams in my opinions, the next 2 years will be huge for this football program.
 
ahso said
Actually, the bar has been set so low, his chances of coming back for the third year is very high.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I agree ahso, I have been saying all along he will be back for year 3! The bar is so low this year that nothing will be his fault int he eyes of the powers that be. He may be on the hot seat if he only wins 3 or 4 but 5 and up is acceptable to the academics.
 
101, I certainly see and agree with your valid points. I had rather be a NO "ority" than an In "feriority".
I am for nothing short of excellcence in the GT program. In addition I have thoughts about consideration of this year's scedule vs. last year's and also about how the team this year shall peform. I do hope we give the entire coaching staff an opportunity to prove their worth and judge it fairly.
I have every confidence that these are good and decent men and I hope they will be given room to prove thier coaching skills this year minus all the negative pressures that have surmounted over the past few months. If they prove to be "unworthy", then I will be ready to question their "calling". But, honestly, last year (in my humble, oft times ignorant opinion) was a very poor scale to judge in c0nsidering all ramifications which would speak death upon most any program. Also, this year's troubles, beginning with "flunk-gate" would make the challenge to do well, a very difficult one. I just hope we will all wait and see what the results will be before condemning our coaching staff.
 
anything less than 7 wins and I would prefer CG not come back

I hold CG responsible for the lack of depth. He recruited some of those players that failed out.

CG chose to finish his coaching assignment with the Dolphins and that further hurt recruiting.

He made his bed so now he has to lie in it.

That being said if he can win 7 I think that would be a very good sign.
 
My response to that scenario you just highlighted would be the AD would have to give Gailey another year. My hope is that it will be a new AD who could help make a good decision for the school, alumni, and the team.
 
Originally posted by gnats 67:
Contrary to board belief, Chan ain't going nowhere. Sure, there'll be an awful lot of hollering if we go 0-12 (myself included) but Chan is here for two more seasons at least. Gut check time! Support this team or please go away for a little while. 5-7 seems to be the best that the (ignorant) pundits will wager but I'm still on the 7-5, 8-4, finishing strong and a bowl fence. The sentiment that CCG should be gone before he gets started or before he matriculates a recruiting class is asinine. We've got to give the man a chance and this is barely going to be year two. TECH fans show your support. Posers, please haunt some other board.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">No,.....5-7 is not acceptable. And it's not asinine to suggest that GC takes his act as far away from the Flats as he can get. That said,..he's not the only problem. The Administration has got to get on board and give is us the type of athletes we need to compete,.i.e. we need those 950 SAT types who are also on AU, ugag, FSU's board. We can't be a competitive team only recruiting the 1200 SAT types. Anyone who thinks we can is seriously mislead and doesn't understand the importance of College Football here in the South.

I think we we win 4 games at most,...only because we have enough of Coach O'Leary recruited players left. I would think CG would resign after such a debacle,....that would be the only honorable thing to do.

GATA JACKETS!!!
 
Originally posted by ylojk8:
if gailey can have a season such that we can be hopeful of success in the near future, he's done his job this season.

i'm hopeful of 6 wins this season though.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">51-7 and the Fresno Fiasco,.....I think he's done quite enough to us already.

GATA JACKETS!!!!
 
Have to factor in the harder schedule this year.. Auburn comes on in place of Connecticut, a sure win last year vs one heckuva tough game this year.. Six regular season wins would be like 7 last year.. Six wins, good effort & a good showing versus UGA & it won't be an unsuccessful season..
 
0-12, nobody stays with that,Gnats.

I will be honest and accept the criticism. What I really want is to win the most games we can with the best athletes that "somehow" get in to TECH. Having football players with less than 1200 on their SAT's does not reduce my self worth, or the Tech degree that I have.

Anybody with any common sense understands that academics and athletics are different to a point in today's world. That being said, reduce the entry requirements by 20% of the common student, and I think we can attract all that we need to win.

Keep the same curriculum. Add the level of discipline to get the players to take advantage of tutoring, and it will work.

I hate when Tech sucks.
 
Originally posted by LLCoolJacket:
0-12, nobody stays with that,Gnats.

I will be honest and accept the criticism. What I really want is to win the most games we can with the best athletes that "somehow" get in to TECH. Having football players with less than 1200 on their SAT's does not reduce my self worth, or the Tech degree that I have.

Anybody with any common sense understands that academics and athletics are different to a point in today's world. That being said, reduce the entry requirements by 20% of the common student, and I think we can attract all that we need to win.

Keep the same curriculum. Add the level of discipline to get the players to take advantage of tutoring, and it will work.

I hate when Tech sucks.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">If he is 0-7 heading into the Maryland game, he doesnt get to go 0-12. Or, shouldnt get to if the AD had the same guts as Homer Rice did in 1994 after the Maryland game to admit he had made a mistake (of course, it took another walloping in the next game for Lewis to accept the graceful exit the administration had worked on for a week and he still fought it. They allowed him to "resign". But, unfortunately that scenario is a ridiculous nightmare to even imagine, but point being is 0-fers are goners before a season ends with a similar situation like Gailey came to. Lets just hope Sceario #1 does come true, albeit it just as much a dream opposite of the nightmare.
 
Geez, I can't believe that ANY of you would actually even consider that we could go 0-12. It ain't gonna happen. Nor will we finish 1-11 or 2-10. We've got good talent on this team. I do feel that 6-6 or 7-5 is likely, but that outcome is likely for MANY college football teams this year INCLUDING our enemies in Athens. They are looking at possible losses to 'Bama, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee and the guaranteed loss at Florida! In addition they could lose to Clempson, SC, Kentucky or Tech. In fact, a 3-9 is possible for them, as well as it is for us. That's why you line 'em up and play 'em because nothing is a guarantee (other than their loss to Florida).
Chan will have our guys prepared. He has recruited some quality talent, contrary to popular belief. If we have a 5-7 season, but fight hard, I won't be satisfied, but I am never satisfied unless we win them all. We may discover that freshman Grant is the equal to or better than Hollings, or sophmore ACE may use his 225 lbs to pound some D-backs, or sophmore D-Bo may show why he was the Mississippi player of the year etc etc.... The fact is we have some talent that some of you seem to conveniently ignore in your quest to ride Chan Gailey out of here. Chan has coached long enough to extract the play out of this talent to win some ball games. One thing that should be made clear to all of the players this year is that quitting will not be accepted and is your direct path to bench warming. I do not believe we will have that issue this year though.
Tenuta is a great defensive coordinator. The fact that Chan has him on board says a lot about the respect that our head coach commands among his peers. I believe our D will be tough this year.
 
Originally posted by LLCoolJacket:
[QB]0-12, nobody stays with that,Gnats.

didn't Lou Holtz go 0-11iin his first year at South Carolina? and then had his team in the outback bowl the next year? but that was his first year
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