"Some Good, Some Bad"

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9 Music City Bowl takeaways
Posted: Tuesday, December 31 2013 03:22 PM EST

By Ken Sugiura

1. In some ways, the game was not terribly surprising. This was a game between decent but flawed teams that were coming off a month layoff and had only practiced two days in the week before the game. It was perhaps bound to be a bit messy. Georgia Tech has well established itself as a team that had trouble playing with consistency on offense and defensively was decent, but had trouble in pass coverage. That was repeated Monday.

Also, this was a game that, on paper, seemed to favor Ole Miss. But Tech had the ball in the fourth quarter with a chance to take the lead. Two chances, actually.

I imagine that most Tech fans, if they were offered that scenario before the game (the Jackets getting two possessions in the fourth quarter to take the lead) would take it.

That said, I’m guessing not many Tech fans are comforting themselves with that thought today.

2. The Ole Miss defensive line played a major part in the outcome. The Rebels shut down the Tech offense after the first drive and the Ole Miss front had a lot to do with it. Defensive linemen Issac Gross, D.T. Shackelford and Robert Nkemdiche combined for 20 total tackles, including four for loss.

Tech ran 11 times for 72 yards on the opening possession, with runs of eight, nine, 14 and 17 yards. Over the final 12 possessions, the Jackets had 38 carries that gained 79 yards. For just the second time this season (the Virginia Tech game was the other), Tech didn’t have one run of 20 yards or more. The 151-yard total was the second lowest of the season after the Virginia Tech game (129 rushing yards).

The 79 yards include two big losses, a 13-yard sack and the disastrous safety that was counted as a 15-yard loss. But even if you toss those out, the Jackets gained 107 yards on 36 carries, which isn’t exactly robust.

Rebels coach Hugh Freeze said he expected the defense would struggle early to adjust to the speed of Tech’s option game.

“I thought you saw some of that early, particularly with their wide run game and toss sweep play that they had,” he said. “Our kids made great adjustments. … I couldn’t be more proud of coach (Dave) Wommack and his staff and the job that they did in scheming and getting us a plan.”

3. The Tech defense did OK, I thought. The unit had a similar adjustment to Ole Miss’ high-tempo offense. The Rebels converted three of four third downs (and a fourth down) on the first drive, but made four of 12 the rest of the way.

The Jackets were put in some tough field position situations, with three Ole Miss possessions starting inside Tech territory. Ole Miss cashed those in for 14 points.

Holding Ole Miss to 27 points isn’t bad – the Rebels scored 39 against Vanderbilt, 44 against Texas, 38 against Texas A&M, 27 against LSU and 34 against Arkansas. The Rebels did leave seven points on the field due to their placekicking issues.

Further, Ole Miss’ 5.7 yards per play was lower than its average against those aforementioned five teams.

That said, the run defense was gashed. Ole Miss’ 221 rushing yards was the second most gained by a Tech opponent, following the 227 given up to Miami.

“I think the thing that surprised me was how well they ran the ball,” coach Paul Johnson said. “They had struggled to run the ball coming into the game.”

4. Cornerback D.J. White had a pretty solid effort. He finished with 13 tackles, three pass breakups, two forced fumbles and an interception. He was beaten on a pass play into the end zone that required him to take a pass interference penalty, but it probably saved a touchdown. His interception returned the ball to Tech in the fourth quarter, setting the stage for the 72-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Vad Lee to wide receiver Darren Waller.

“Coaches put us in a position to make plays,” he said. “We came out with the attitude that we were just going to compete and just challenge every throw.”

Safety Jemea Thomas closed his career with 15 tackles, three for loss.

5. Johnson’s explanation of the failed reverse pass that ended in a safety:

“We’d been waiting for a series and a half to get the ball in the middle of the field because I knew it was going to work.”

At that point, Johnson turned to A-back Robert Godhigh, who was sitting next to him at the post-game news conference.

“Robbie, did anybody take (i.e., cover) you?

Godhigh: “No.”

Johnson: “No. Thank you. They made a play, we didn’t. If it worked, you’d be calling me a genius. If it doesn’t work, then you can call me a dumb---.”

I don’t know if I would have called him a genius had it worked, or his other option since it didn't, but, he is right insomuch as it could have worked if D.T. Shackelford had been blocked at the line. He came completely free from the left end spot and blew the play up before it could develop. Right tackle Ray Beno was lined up opposite Shackelford and appeared to be trying to chip Nkemdiche, the tackle next to Shackelford, and then released, apparently waiting for the play to develop to his side, while Shackelford ran right by him into the backfield.

Wide receiver Corey Dennis, a high school quarterback who was handling the ball for the first time all season on the play, could have tucked it and gone down for a loss when Shackelford came free - it was 1st and 15 - but tried to keep the play alive. Wide receiver Darren Waller said the team has worked on the play “for a while.” Tech tried something similar with DeAndre Smelter against Syracuse (which resulted in an interception).

With Ole Miss so committed to the run, and having so much success stopping it, I can see how Johnson would have wanted to try the reverse, not expecting that just about the worst possible outcome of the play would happen. Tech needed something to relieve pressure and make Ole Miss pay for selling out on the run. It got it in Waller’s touchdown and in a 39-yard reception by Godhigh, but that was about it.

6. As for the punt fake, Johnson took responsibility. Punter Sean Poole rolled right for a rugby punt but had an option on the play to run if he saw a crease, which he did. He gained a first down on a similar play against Pittsburgh. You may recall North Carolina tried a similar tactic last year and failed to gain a first down. Johnson said that the option to fake should have been removed.

7. Pass protection was not very good, both by the line and the backs. It’s hard to draw too much from Lee’s numbers (5-for-12 for 147 yards) because he was under so much pressure. The play-by-play stats credit Ole Miss with five quarterback hurries, and it seemed like there were more, plus a sack. There was a dropped pass. He was hardly at his best, either, but also made some positive plays.

"I thought he was like everybody else," Johnson said. "I thought he did some good, some bad."

8. Johnson and Godhigh both said that Ole Miss did nothing defensively that the offense hadn’t expected or prepared for. And yet, Tech had its second-worst running game of the season. You’d have to say it was a win for the Ole Miss defense in every aspect of the matchup.

“I think we can play better than that. Clearly, we didn’t,” Johnson said. “And, again, I give (Ole Miss) some credit for that. I don’t think we were ever in sync on offense at all, never really got in any kind of rhythm. It was just kind of haphazard. We’d hit some plays here and there but nothing to gain any consistency.”

9. "Some good, some bad" is a pretty apt description for the season.


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"it would have worked if .... had been blocked at the line." Gee, never heard that.

"some good, some bad." Have heard that enough to last a lifetime.
 
Holding Ole Miss to 27 points isn’t bad – the Rebels scored 39 against Vanderbilt, 44 against Texas, 38 against Texas A&M, 27 against LSU and 34 against Arkansas. The Rebels did leave seven points on the field due to their placekicking issues.

Ken can't even get the score right. Ole Miss only scored 25 on the board. Additionally, the defense only allowed 23.

How can the GT beat writer not know the ööööööö score of the football game in which he attended and subsequently blogged?
 
I completely agree on the reverse pass. 90% of coaches don't have the balls to call that play, but Johnson does. Shackleford singlehandedly stopped that play - if falls for the fake we probably score a TD and take the lead because Godhigh was WIIIIIDE open.

The problem isn't that particular play call. Its the fact that we had to resort to such a call because we were so ineffective at running our base offense.
 
Great idea to use Corey Dennis for that play. Just like it was a great idea to use whoever we used to throw that HB pass against UGAy in 2011, instead of using one of the 15 QBs we had on the roster.
 
Great idea to use Corey Dennis for that play. Just like it was a great idea to use whoever we used to throw that HB pass against UGAy in 2011, instead of using one of the 15 QBs we had on the roster.

To be fair, Corey is one of the 15 QBs.
 
The problem isn't that particular play call. Its the fact that we had to resort to such a call because we were so ineffective at running our base offense.

Yep
 
Paul Johnson seems to have a chip on his shoulder and is dead set to prove everyone that he is right. Unfortunately it is to the detriment of our football team.
 
“I thought you saw some of that early, particularly with their wide run game and toss sweep play that they had,” he said. “Our kids made great adjustments. … I couldn’t be more proud of coach (Dave) Wommack and his staff and the job that they did in scheming and getting us a plan.”

Out schemed by a Wommack plan, both telling and depressing.
 
Its really depressing to watch what the other bowl teams do when they are behind late in the game. They put drives together. They complete passes. They make blocks and break tackles.

We do none of that.

This is normally when I would dig up a stat like: how many games did we win when we were behind late in the game.

But I'm not going to bother.
 
Great idea to use Corey Dennis for that play. Just like it was a great idea to use whoever we used to throw that HB pass against UGAy in 2011, instead of using one of the 15 QBs we had on the roster.

i believe that was smelter, and that's kind of a bad point to make as he shouldn't have thrown it with 20 yards of open grass in front of him and his man completely covered.
 
I completely agree on the reverse pass. 90% of coaches don't have the balls to call that play, but Johnson does. Shackleford singlehandedly stopped that play - if falls for the fake we probably score a TD and take the lead because Godhigh was WIIIIIDE open.

The problem isn't that particular play call. Its the fact that we had to resort to such a call because we were so ineffective at running our base offense.

I just dont understand how a DT was completely unblocked. Also, why was beno lined up over the DTs? Isn't he a OT? Where was everyone else on this play?
 
Its really depressing to watch what the other bowl teams do when they are behind late in the game. They put drives together. They complete passes. They make blocks and break tackles.

We do none of that.

This is normally when I would dig up a stat like: how many games did we win when we were behind late in the game.

But I'm not going to bother.

This 1000%. Even if we are within a TD late in the game, it feels over because we have the worst 2-minute offense in the history of modern college football. It's a chore for us to get a first down in the 2-minute drill, needless to say score. Most of our 2-minute offenses at the end of games finish with an INT. Doesn't matter who's the QB. That's our genius coach's offensive design.
 
This 1000%. Even if we are within a TD late in the game, it feels over because we have the worst 2-minute offense in the history of modern college football. It's a chore for us to get a first down in the 2-minute drill, needless to say score.

You don't actually watch the games at all, do you?

Our best drive in the game was a one play 70 yard score, precisely when Ole Miss knew we needed to score quickly.
 
mostly bad. we have a pathetic team and coach that gets embarrassed every time we play on national television
 
Beej, have you lived under a rock for the past six seasons? We hit that pass as part of our play action first down offense, not as part of a two minute offense late in the 4th quarter. That's my point. We can't pass when we *have* to pass. Almost every comeback bid ends in an INT in the PJ era.

When is the last time we won a game with a two minute drill? You can choose to insult me if you can't put a coherent rebuttal together or you can choose to refute with facts.




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i believe that was smelter, and that's kind of a bad point to make as he shouldn't have thrown it with 20 yards of open grass in front of him and his man completely covered.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you saying Smelter was the guy with the ball on the reverse? Or that Smelter was the one who the the HB pass in 2011? Either way... wrong.
 
Seems like it's been quite a while. Maybe 2010 Wake?

Yeah thats the game I was thinking about too, but that wasn't a true two-minute offense. It was more like a game ending long drive. The last true two minute offense we hit at the end of a game was a couple years ago against VT, but we left 30 seconds on the clock and they drove to a game tying FG. That game ended with TW's horrible endzone interception in OT, but I still gave him credit for the two minute drill that would've won the game if our D had held.
 
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