Sounds like the Defense is totally revamping!

The kid from LSU is drawing a big paycheck, I believe so is Brodie Croyle, Jason Cambell is, Woodson is going to, Tebow will some day, so will Matt Stafford and that doesn't include guys that just had fantastic college careers like David Greene or Chris Leak.
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So not counting somedays and maybecouldas and total NFL failures, that makes what, 3? 4 tops? And counting schools where they actually are now, and that makes what, 3 for the ACC?

I'd like to see some total numbers of current NFL starters from each conference. Just to see.
 
beej67 said:
Add Philip Rivers to that list, maybe throw Vick in there if you want an argument, then compare the last 6 years of any other conference. Who's the SEC got? The two Mannings, but who else?

There's not a lot of "starting NFL QB" spots.
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Jason Campbell on the Redskins. JaMarcus Russell will be a starter.

Edit: Sorry, didn't notice that I'm repeating what has already been said :)
 
beej67 said:
So not counting somedays and maybecouldas and total NFL failures, that makes what, 3? 4 tops? And counting schools where they actually are now, and that makes what, 3 for the ACC?

I'd like to see some total numbers of current NFL starters from each conference. Just to see.
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I should have just left the NFL out of it since it seems to be muddying the discussion and as Lil Joe proved you don't have to the league to be an outstanding college QB.

I've named, from the top of my head, 8 SEC QB's that had outstanding college careers in the last 6 years. Right now we're on 3 for the ACC in that time frame and Schaub is kind of questionable as a great college career since Groh loves underachieving.
 
It's hard to say if the ACC defenses benefitted from anemic offenses, or if the offenses looked anemic due to stellar defenses they faced each week.

The most impressive defensive stat from the past in my opinion is how often one led one's own conference in defense; which I believe in GT's recent past was zero times. When you have a top twenty defense most years, and in those same years end up ranked 2nd, 3rd or less in your own conference you have to reevaluate what that means.
 
I'm not suggesting ACC teams haven't had good defenses the last 4-5 years, but I think it's clear that offenses overall have not been good. Even if you allow for playing against top defensive players as evidenced by the drafts, ACC teams as a group have simply been bad offensively.
 
ncjacket said:
I'm not suggesting ACC teams haven't had good defenses the last 4-5 years, but I think it's clear that offenses overall have not been good. Even if you allow for playing against top defensive players as evidenced by the drafts, ACC teams as a group have simply been bad offensively.
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ACC teams seem to do about the same offensively in bowl games as in conference. As a conference, we have had good, solid defenses and piss poor offenses. The ACC is ready for a Spurrier type beatdown by a GOOD offensive team. I hope it is us.
 
If we get our Charlie Ward or Joe Hamilton...no offense in the ACC will compare.

This conference is ripe for the taking.

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