Tech football is dead

We’re going to suffocate from the upcoming unequal revenue distribution model
 
verdi said:
Tech has been going down the last couple of decades.

The annoying elitist culture was something I constantly ran into. There’s tons of people that see those with interest in athletics as intellectually inferior.

We need to expand enrollment and increase acceptance rates to have an decent school football culture.
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1) Not sure who you mean by "tons of people that see those with interest in athletics as intellectually inferior." Is this something unique to Tech? I don't believe I missed one football or basketball game while I was there, I played intramural basketball and flag football, and I spent pretty much all my free time at "the SAC" as we called it then, and I don't recall anyone accusing me of being "intellectually inferior." Hell, I graduated top ten in my class with highest honors. And one of the dudes who graduated ahead of me started on the football team! Intellectually inferior?!?

2) I would guess that Tech has a MUCH higher percentage of students from Asia - where American football isn't a thing - than ugag and most/all other football factories. These kids didn't leave their families and cross the Pacific Ocean at 18 for that. They came for a Tech education and a Tech degree. That was even true 40 years ago, but is much, MUCH more the case now. And this is GREAT for Georgia Tech as an educational institution, and for its graduates. In my career, I've traveled all over the world - Korea, Japan, China, Germany, France, Sweden, Australia,, Italy, England . . . . And everywhere I go I find people who have heard of, and respect, Georgia Tech. I doubt the same can be said for ugag, F$U, Clem's Son, Alabama, etc.

3) The tail does not wag the dog. Nor should it. The Institute is the dog; the football team is the tail. Educational quality is, and should be, the number one priority always. The football team should be something like eleventy-seventh.

4) Tech has expanded degrees dramatically since I was there, and it is not "Calculus U" at all anymore. And I'm fine with that. Personally . . . I'm not sure why Tech and other colleges can't/don't just have a Bachelor of Football program anyway. But that's another discussion.

5) BUT . . . Tech does not need to do, and should not do, one damn thing to have a "better football culture." I doubt very many alumni think that Tech should lower its admission standards and the quality of its education and degrees just so it can fill the football stadium six Saturdays a year. There are other ways to accomplish that. Again, the tail does not wag the dog. WIN and fans will follow every time.
 
1982Jacket said:
1) Not sure who you mean by "tons of people that see those with interest in athletics as intellectually inferior." Is this something unique to Tech? I don't believe I missed one football or basketball game while I was there, I played intramural basketball and flag football, and I spent pretty much all my free time at "the SAC" as we called it then, and I don't recall anyone accusing me of being "intellectually inferior." Hell, I graduated top ten in my class with highest honors. And one of the dudes who graduated ahead of me started on the football team! Intellectually inferior?!?

2) I would guess that Tech has a MUCH higher percentage of students from Asia - where American football isn't a thing - than ugag and most/all other football factories. These kids didn't leave their families and cross the Pacific Ocean at 18 for that. They came for a Tech education and a Tech degree. That was even true 40 years ago, but is much, MUCH more the case now. And this is GREAT for Georgia Tech as an educational institution, and for its graduates. In my career, I've traveled all over the world - Korea, Japan, China, Germany, France, Sweden, Australia,, Italy, England . . . . And everywhere I go I find people who have heard of, and respect, Georgia Tech. I doubt the same can be said for ugag, F$U, Clem's Son, Alabama, etc.

3) The tail does not wag the dog. Nor should it. The Institute is the dog; the football team is the tail. Educational quality is, and should be, the number one priority always. The football team should be something like eleventy-seventh.

4) Tech has expanded degrees dramatically since I was there, and it is not "Calculus U" at all anymore. And I'm fine with that. Personally . . . I'm not sure why Tech and other colleges can't/don't just have a Bachelor of Football program anyway. But that's another discussion.

5) BUT . . . Tech does not need to do, and should not do, one damn thing to have a "better football culture." I doubt very many alumni think that Tech should lower its admission standards and the quality of its education and degrees just so it can fill the football stadium six Saturdays a year. There are other ways to accomplish that. Again, the tail does not wag the dog. WIN and fans will follow every time.
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It’s not so much about weaken standards but increase enrollment to admit more Georgia students. Though I appreciate the challenges with that.

I graduated in 2016 for reference. Tech is now an elite institution, which is good. However, interest in sports, particularly collegiate football, is distinctly plebeian. The typical Tech student has utter disdain for the pleb, just like the Hill and professors.
 
verdi said:
It’s not so much about weaken standards but increase enrollment to admit more Georgia students. Though I appreciate the challenges with that.

I graduated in 2016 for reference. Tech is now an elite institution, which is good. However, interest in sports, particularly collegiate football, is distinctly plebeian. The typical Tech student has utter disdain for the pleb, just like the Hill and professors.
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Pretty accurate. You are more likely to get in If you are from Singapore than if you are from Tifton
 
verdi said:
It’s not so much about weaken standards but increase enrollment to admit more Georgia students. Though I appreciate the challenges with that.

I graduated in 2016 for reference. Tech is now an elite institution, which is good. However, interest in sports, particularly collegiate football, is distinctly plebeian. The typical Tech student has utter disdain for the pleb, just like the Hill and professors.
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"The typical Tech student has utter disdain for the pleb, just like the Hill and professors. "

You attended much more recently than me, so I'll take your word for it. Wasn't that way when I was there 40+ years ago. Back then, they **used to** have at least 50% in-state students at all time. And there were two different admission standards. There were plenty of "plebes" - including Yours Truly, I guess. I wonder what changed.

Speaking of different admission standards . . .

donsue said:
Pretty accurate. You are more likely to get in If you are from Singapore than if you are from Tifton
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Not if you have the same grades and SATs. Not even CLOSE. And it's not debatable. It is very well documented that the admission standards for Georgia residents are MUCH lower than for out-of-state applicants. My daughter applied four years ago, so I know what I'm talking about. I understand it, because Georgia taxpayers do fund a percentage of the school's expenses. But I don't like it. I wish they would just take the best applicants they can get . . . in-state, out-of-state, Singapore, whatever. No preferances for legacies or "diversity." Pure merit. Of course if they did that, I'm guessing that probably the "football culture" would be even worse.
 
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