Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd's Luck"

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Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

This is an excerpt from the book Dodd's Luck. It is Dodd's description of the events.

Bobby Dodd insisted there was no other reason he left the SEC, other than the 140 Rule. The 140 Rule stated a college program could only have 140 football and basketball players on scholarship at any one time. The teams were allowed to sign up to 45 players a year, but could not exceed the 140 Rule.

Dodd would not allow any of the football players choosing Tech to be dismissed from Tech, because they were not good players. Dodd said, “it is not the recruits fault for not making the squad, it was the coaches fault for misjudging their talents”. If a recruit came to Tech, he would stay on a football scholarship until he graduated.

Dodd would sign about 30-32 players a year to meet the guidelines, but the other schools in the SEC were offering 45 scholarships a year. Those players, not good enough to fall under the 140 Rule, had their scholarships withdrawn and sent packing before the end of each year. Dodd insisted, the recruiting of athletes by this method amounted to nothing more than a tryout for a scholarship.

Dodd thought it unfair and would not withdraw scholarships from his players. He wanted the SEC to limit the amount of scholarships to about 32 per year. This would keep the other schools from offering 45 scholarships, picking the best, and sending the rest packing.

A vote was to be taken by the presidents of the colleges on the issue, and Dodd made it clear, Tech would have to leave the SEC unless the rule was changed. Dodd said he would live with 10, 20, 30, 40, or even 50 recruits per year as long as he did not have to chase any of his players off.

The presidents were split six for Dodd’s position and six against. Bear had promised Dodd he would get his president to vote for Dodd’s position, which would have changed the rule.

When the meeting was held, Bryant did not show up and the Alabama president voted against Dodd’s position and the 140 Rule was upheld. Tech’s president immediately walked to the podium and announced Tech was withdrawing from the SEC. Bryant never told Dodd why he reneged on his promise.

Some year’s later there was a movement to get Tech back into the SEC, but the two main schools to fight it the most and keep Tech from re-entering the SEC were Georgia and Auburn.

The ACC immediately offered Tech the opportunity to join its conference, but Dodd thought Tech could not compete in basketball in the ACC. Dodd decided to try the independent route as Notre Dame, Miami, and Penn State were faring well as independents. Tech was well known as a football power at that time, so Dodd figured the independent route would be the best for Tech.

Father Time
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

Ah,

I am a relatively new poster to StingTalk, but always enjoy your posts. I have been a long suffering GA Tech fan and have often wondered why Auburn and UGAG were so against us getting back into the SEC originally. Seems to me it was the Mississpi schools who were against us the second time in the late 70's, but can't remember why. Any insight?
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

YJ, Johnny Vaught and Ole Miss never did like Tech and Dodd. Dodd refused to play him on a home and home basis.

I think Dodd said he did not care to play Vaught and Ole Miss because Ole Miss would probably beat him. Johnny Vaught was the best coach ever from Ole Miss, and he, consistently, had good teams.

I am not quite sure why Auburn and UGA were so against Tech coming back into the conference. I know Tech beat both UGA and Auburn like red headed step children while in the SEC. Tech had an eight game winning streak against UGA and a bigger one against Auburn at one time.

At one time, Tech would not play Auburn home and home. Auburn always had to come to Atlanta to play Tech. During those years, Tech almost always sold out. Since Auburn was from a small town, they probably made pretty good money from the arrangement in the beginning.

Vince Dooley was an old Auburn quarterback and defensive back in the old one platoon days. I am not sure when Tech was reconsidered, but maybe Dooley brought some Auburn hate with him.

Tech has won more SEC championships than ACC championships. Tech still leads in the series against Florida, LSU, Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt.

It is just possible, some of the other SEC schools saw we fared better in the conference rather than outside the conference. They might have been afraid we would get more recruits if we were part of the conference.

I doubt we ever know all the reasons.

By the way, you can go to the top of the page and pull up the search box. Place Dodd's Luck in it and search.

You will find a post with a condensed version of Dodd's Luck Revised. It in no way is near as good as the book, but it will give you a little of the Tech history of Curry back to Alexander.

Father Time
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

Ah,

Thanks for the history lesson. One of these days I intend to read Dodd's Luck
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

It seems like and incredibly short sighted decision, especially in hindsight. I am amazed that the big money folks at Tech would allow Dodd to make such a decision.
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

ahso,

Also covered in Dodd's Luck, Dodd was very concerned about the stiffer academic requirements at Tech compared to the SEC and this was a leading reason for his retirement and a large factor in his support for Tech's withdrawal from the SEC.

Quote: "I just could not compete with those damn state universities. And Auburn is just as easly a state university. They could take these same boys we couldn't take, who wanted to come and play for me. And it just broke me down. I couldn't beat'em. You can just outcoach'em some of the time, brother. Better football players will beat you."

Does anyone who follows Tech and football in the south really think the playing field in terms of recruiting is level? That we can recruit our share of football talent? That Dodd was wrong then or things are better now?

In my opinion, it has only gotten worse, until we offer "Dance", "Physical Fitness", and "Sports Training" majors we will always be playing uphill.

God help Gailey and the next in the long line of successors to Dodd's lament.
 
Re: Tech Leaves SEC "Dodd\'s Luck"

Originally posted by goldmember:
It seems like and incredibly short sighted decision, especially in hindsight. I am amazed that the big money folks at Tech would allow Dodd to make such a decision.
<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">In those days it seemed like a reasonable decision. Some of the most prominent programs in the country were independent: ND, Penn State, Army, Navy, Pitt, Syracuse. Like any major move, it had risks.

Hell. in hindsight, we'd all have bought Microsoft.
 
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