The preseason coaches poll is out!!!!!!

[Allen Koholic]

It always amazes me when a GT fan totally sticks his foot in his mouth like this.

We WON the Coaches Poll in 1990 to win a share of the NC. Without the coaches poll we are second to a Colorado team that had one loss and should have had 2 more on top of it considering that BS 5th down and the Rocket Ismail punt return called back.

Who is better at voting.. Coaches? Or a bunch of dip**** pencil necked writers who don't know dick about the game?

Come on man, use your head. :pat:

The problem is that most of those coaches don't even watch the games and hand their ballot to an assistant. Although, I will admit that I didn't take 1990 into account when I made my statement. And for that, I am ashamed.

 

[GTLiebs]

True, though as I pointed out there are really only two other games that are likely to be between ranked teams. It looks like it will be Iowa-Penn State though. It's @Penn State, already scheduled for 8 p.m. on ABC, both teams have an easy first 3 games, and it can easily be hyped up by the fact that Iowa upset them last year.

Actually I think Cal v Oregon is more probable. Cal is likely going to be 3-0 by then (possible Maryland upset is all there is) and if Oregon is as well then they've beaten both Boise St and Utah.

 

[gtfan088]

Actually I think Cal v Oregon is more probable. Cal is likely going to be 3-0 by then (possible Maryland upset is all there is) and if Oregon is as well then they've beaten both Boise St and Utah.

Penn State would create a better gameday atmosphere and it's a night game. If Oregon were to survive that early stretch, it may be a tough decision though.

 

[GT98]

Beyond a f'in joke that AU got 12 (!) votes in the poll. The same AU that had a losing record last season and made one of the worst coaching hires in the modern era.

 

[BerryGT]

The problem is that most of those coaches don't even watch the games and hand their ballot to an assistant. Although, I will admit that I didn't take 1990 into account when I made my statement. And for that, I am ashamed.

Big difference between a preseason coaches poll and the final poll which determines who they're crowning as MNC. I bet head coaches put a lot of thought into putting us ahead of Colorado in 90. The AP had already been released and a lot of coaches went against it because they knew it was ridiculous.

PS- I recently saw a list of the bowl games from 90, UVA played Tenn (SEC champ) in the Sugar Bowl. Look no further to see how jacked up the bowls were back then.

 

[augustabuzz]

The problem is that most of those coaches don't even watch the games and hand their ballot to an assistant. Although, I will admit that I didn't take 1990 into account when I made my statement. And for that, I am ashamed.

Over the course of a season, how many different teams do you think the coaches see in their film study? How many different games of that weeks opponents are viewed? I bet they get a real good idea of the relative strengths of about 50 teams.

 

[mm42]

The problem is that most of those coaches don't even watch the games and hand their ballot to an assistant.

Many of the AP poll voters are beat writers for a particular team, who don't have much time to watch anything but the team they cover, either.

But regardless of the argument about watching games, coaches understand the games they watch. I have no doubt that the worst, dumbest coach in America understands the game better than, say, Mark Bradley.

The AP poll and coaches poll have almost always agreed on the #1 team, so the argument that there is any sort of large difference between them is weak.

In the few cases where they have differed on the national champ (ignoring probation-related differences), the coaches have always been right:

1997: Coaches pick strong Nebraska team over lame Michigan team with even lamer DB who stole the Heisman Trophy from Peyton Manning.

1991: Washington over Miami criminals (this one is really a toss-up and both polls were incredibly close.)

1990: GT over Colorado

1978: Southern Cal over Bama (USC beat Bama 24-14 at Legion Field and yet the AP poll voted Bama #1?)

 

[cyptomcat]

Not a single Big East team ranked, wow.

 

[GTLiebs]

Not a single Big East team ranked, wow.

Do you think any that should be? Damn near every team is down. The Big East defending champion returns 2 starters on defense.

 

[cyptomcat]

Do you think any that should be? Damn near every team is down. The Big East defending champion returns 2 starters on defense.

I was just observing, I don't follow Big East that much to know if they should have any team ranked. If the post-season poll is the same, it's about time to restructure who is BCS and who is not.

 

[gt_white_gold]

I was just observing, I don't follow Big East that much to know if they should have any team ranked. If the post-season poll is the same, it's about time to restructure who is BCS and who is not.

They still have 3 more years before the BCS can be realigned.

 

[GTWannaBee]

To everyone wondering about Spurrier, he was asked to stop his practice of voting for Duke every year, "For the integrity of the polls". I'm too lazy to look up a link, but this happened either last year, or the year before.

Correct, here's the link:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2007-08-02-spurrier-duke_N.htm

 

[77GTFan]

To everyone wondering about Spurrier, he was asked to stop his practice of voting for Duke every year, "For the integrity of the polls". I'm too lazy to look up a link, but this happened either last year, or the year before.

Did they ask Spurrier to stop, or the USC-E staff member who fills out his polls for him? ;)

 

[augustabuzz]

Many of the AP poll voters are beat writers for a particular team, who don't have much time to watch anything but the team they cover, either.

But regardless of the argument about watching games, coaches understand the games they watch. I have no doubt that the worst, dumbest coach in America understands the game better than, say, Mark Bradley.

The AP poll and coaches poll have almost always agreed on the #1 team, so the argument that there is any sort of large difference between them is weak.

In the few cases where they have differed on the national champ (ignoring probation-related differences), the coaches have always been right:

1997: Coaches pick strong Nebraska team over lame Michigan team with even lamer DB who stole the Heisman Trophy from Peyton Manning.

1991: Washington over Miami criminals (this one is really a toss-up and both polls were incredibly close.)

1990: GT over Colorado

1978: Southern Cal over Bama (USC beat Bama 24-14 at Legion Field and yet the AP poll voted Bama #1?)

Preach on, brother!

:biggthumpup: