The thread formerly known as Breaking News.

Status
Not open for further replies.

PressManCoverage

Damn Good Rat
Joined
Sep 18, 2021
Messages
1,385
This is a real head scratcher, but here’s what I understand are the relevant financials.

1. We owe G*C* $14M if we fire him Sunday, $7.2M at end of next year, $4.8M in 2023.

2. As part of that Oregon St contract dispute, GT paid $1.5M to pay off the Beavers and reduced Stansbury’s contract by $300k/yr thru 2026. We’re now paying him $650k/yr.

The big money guys must have told him to eff off. Not a good sign because this means we’ll have this imbecile for probably 2 years and maybe 3. Likely scenario is 9 more wins for GT football, fire both Stansbury and G*C* right after the 2024 mutt game. It’s a minimal buyout & GT shows it’s utter disregard for its student athletes and fans.

I think we’re stuck with Key until his BS contract runs out next year. I’m not sure anyone has the nuts to fire Goober, they’ll offer up Thacker as their tribute to appease the masses. Blame the whole season on him & pray to God we can muster 4 wins next year. Thacker gets a hug on the way out & effusive praise for the great job he did.

The only other alternative is Stansbury is trying to reverse Homer Rice’s legacy & turn us into a 1AA school and maybe move us into the Southern Conference with Citadel and Furman. We might be able to pick up a trophy or two that way in some of the minor sports.
If we can whip our OLs into shape and teach them how to hold like every other OL on every other level of FB, we win 8-9 games easy, I think we are close to getting over the hump, the ND fiasco just has us shell shocked that we were beaten so thoroughly.

I'll never understand why our OL & our Secondary has no competitive fire in them.
 

GTFLETCH

Damn Good Rat
Joined
Jun 30, 2014
Messages
1,112
Just announced ---- TStan says Collins WILL be back next year ..... dammit

As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
 

The Jacket

The Coat
Joined
Jun 17, 2002
Messages
27,545
This is probably somewhat entitled and on the bigger end where crying is concerned, but the thing that soured my mood on Collins to the point that it did was not necessarily the loss alone. It was the two instances recently where he has seemed to display a lack of concern or, as I said before, borderline hostility towards fans who have warranted doubts and frustrations.

öööö's sake Geoff, we're the ones who want you to succeed. In the college football landscape, we are the ones who are on your side, or else no one is. We don't need you to kiss our asses but God damn, acknowledge we exist and that the frustration we feel in watching your subpar performance is valid. Don't brush off the mere mention of us or tell us we're stupid. Most of us are stupid but we don't need to hear that from you, of all people.
 

PressManCoverage

Damn Good Rat
Joined
Sep 18, 2021
Messages
1,385
As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
During CPJ's last season we avgd. 41.4K (?) in per game attendance, we have been losing fans for a while now, the last 3 yrs plus COVID-19 has accelerated the loss of Fans & Revenue.

At this point we might as well give him the next 2 yrs., my opinion is that unless we win 6 Games next yr, he's gone, he wins 6 Gms, he gets the 2nd Yr, that's a full 5 years to do whatever it is he's going to do.
 

77GTFan

Dodd-Like
Joined
Nov 21, 2004
Messages
7,934
Trying to tamp down the firing frenzy Saturday will likely cause. Plus, he talked to Cabrera and Angel probably told him he could see the progress. El Presidente was there in South Bend.
 

Skydog

Eat a Peach
Joined
Dec 6, 2018
Messages
3,805
How do you not wait till after this Saturday to make an announcement
we've seen this before other places right? vote of confidence = kiss of death. nothing would shock me at this point . i still think something big may happen after the game. i would not rule anything out ...
 

BigDanT

Tech has a more recent Natty than Notre Dame
Joined
Jul 1, 2015
Messages
7,727
we've seen this before other places right? vote of confidence = kiss of death. nothing would shock me at this point . i still think something big may happen after the game. i would not rule anything out ...
Yeah but why do they do that? Seems back stabby
 

Skydog

Eat a Peach
Joined
Dec 6, 2018
Messages
3,805
Yeah but why do they do that? Seems back stabby
football politics .. i don't really understand it. just a long time observer. if they are going to keep him .. then turn him in to true CEO and bring in some football people to do the coaching. keep him out of it.
 

GTFLETCH

Damn Good Rat
Joined
Jun 30, 2014
Messages
1,112
During CPJ's last season we avgd. 41.4K (?) in per game attendance, we have been losing fans for a while now, the last 3 yrs plus COVID-19 has accelerated the loss of Fans & Revenue.

At this point we might as well give him the next 2 yrs., my opinion is that unless we win 6 Games next yr, he's gone, he wins 6 Gms, he gets the 2nd Yr, that's a full 5 years to do whatever it is he's going to do.
Georgia Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years. (Not sure why you are comparing it to CPJ last season)

 

PressManCoverage

Damn Good Rat
Joined
Sep 18, 2021
Messages
1,385
Georgia Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years. (Not sure why you are comparing it to CPJ last season)

I apologize for the confusion.

Others are saying that we can't afford to keep CGC for any longer due to Revenues being lost, my point was that we've been bleeding Attendance numbers since 2014, I think we give him 1 more year and make him earn every additional year after that.

Those that say we can't afford to keep him don't realize that firing CGC won't suddenly put our avg. Attendance at 52K overnight, no matter who we hire our Fans warm up very slowly to GT FB success, and since gaining back Fans is likely to be a slow climb, paying $12 to $14MM in buyout Money doesn't help the situation.

Gotta have 6 or 7 wins next year to get year 5, that's the marching orders that TStan gave CGC ( my guess).
 

JJacket

Not beta, THWG
Joined
May 20, 2003
Messages
62,164
As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
I guess you'll just have to die on that "it will cost us more to keep him" hill. You gave it a good try. I don't see it. Obviously, the powers that be don't see it. Perhaps you can schedule a meeting with TS and take your flip charts.
 

aeromech

Dodd-Like
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
13,706
This post really did age poorly.

As soon as you posted, the AJC released an article where TStan doubled down on CGC, to quote TStan, "I have my man......."

At least the guy in charge has some big cajones!
You are crowing real early. Everything in his post can still come true. How often do AD's give coaches a vote of confidence right before they are fired, it seems like well over the majority of the time. I think Collins stays; but I'll be disappointed if we don't see some changes in the ranks below him.
 

aeromech

Dodd-Like
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
13,706
Trying to tamp down the firing frenzy Saturday will likely cause. Plus, he talked to Cabrera and Angel probably told him he could see the progress. El Presidente was there in South Bend.
Maybe you didn't watch the game; but there was no progress to be seen in South Bend. The team quit in the first quarter, that is what anyone watching the game saw. I hope we at least see the team attempt to put up a fight this Saturday.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top