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Liberty said:
This is a real head scratcher, but here’s what I understand are the relevant financials.

1. We owe G*C* $14M if we fire him Sunday, $7.2M at end of next year, $4.8M in 2023.

2. As part of that Oregon St contract dispute, GT paid $1.5M to pay off the Beavers and reduced Stansbury’s contract by $300k/yr thru 2026. We’re now paying him $650k/yr.

The big money guys must have told him to eff off. Not a good sign because this means we’ll have this imbecile for probably 2 years and maybe 3. Likely scenario is 9 more wins for GT football, fire both Stansbury and G*C* right after the 2024 mutt game. It’s a minimal buyout & GT shows it’s utter disregard for its student athletes and fans.

I think we’re stuck with Key until his BS contract runs out next year. I’m not sure anyone has the nuts to fire Goober, they’ll offer up Thacker as their tribute to appease the masses. Blame the whole season on him & pray to God we can muster 4 wins next year. Thacker gets a hug on the way out & effusive praise for the great job he did.

The only other alternative is Stansbury is trying to reverse Homer Rice’s legacy & turn us into a 1AA school and maybe move us into the Southern Conference with Citadel and Furman. We might be able to pick up a trophy or two that way in some of the minor sports.
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If we can whip our OLs into shape and teach them how to hold like every other OL on every other level of FB, we win 8-9 games easy, I think we are close to getting over the hump, the ND fiasco just has us shell shocked that we were beaten so thoroughly.

I'll never understand why our OL & our Secondary has no competitive fire in them.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
Just announced ---- TStan says Collins WILL be back next year ..... dammit

www.ajc.com

Tech’s Todd Stansbury confirms Geoff Collins returning for fourth season

While not a surprise, Georgia Tech athletic director Todd Stansbury confirmed that coach Geoff Collins will return for a fourth season Wednesday night. Stansbury made the declaration on Collins’ radio show on The Fan.
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As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
 
This is probably somewhat entitled and on the bigger end where crying is concerned, but the thing that soured my mood on Collins to the point that it did was not necessarily the loss alone. It was the two instances recently where he has seemed to display a lack of concern or, as I said before, borderline hostility towards fans who have warranted doubts and frustrations.

öööö's sake Geoff, we're the ones who want you to succeed. In the college football landscape, we are the ones who are on your side, or else no one is. We don't need you to kiss our asses but God damn, acknowledge we exist and that the frustration we feel in watching your subpar performance is valid. Don't brush off the mere mention of us or tell us we're stupid. Most of us are stupid but we don't need to hear that from you, of all people.
 
GTFLETCH said:
As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
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During CPJ's last season we avgd. 41.4K (?) in per game attendance, we have been losing fans for a while now, the last 3 yrs plus COVID-19 has accelerated the loss of Fans & Revenue.

At this point we might as well give him the next 2 yrs., my opinion is that unless we win 6 Games next yr, he's gone, he wins 6 Gms, he gets the 2nd Yr, that's a full 5 years to do whatever it is he's going to do.
 
Trying to tamp down the firing frenzy Saturday will likely cause. Plus, he talked to Cabrera and Angel probably told him he could see the progress. El Presidente was there in South Bend.
 
BigDanT said:
How do you not wait till after this Saturday to make an announcement
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we've seen this before other places right? vote of confidence = kiss of death. nothing would shock me at this point . i still think something big may happen after the game. i would not rule anything out ...
 
Skydog said:
we've seen this before other places right? vote of confidence = kiss of death. nothing would shock me at this point . i still think something big may happen after the game. i would not rule anything out ...
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Yeah but why do they do that? Seems back stabby
 
BigDanT said:
Yeah but why do they do that? Seems back stabby
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football politics .. i don't really understand it. just a long time observer. if they are going to keep him .. then turn him in to true CEO and bring in some football people to do the coaching. keep him out of it.
 
PressManCoverage said:
During CPJ's last season we avgd. 41.4K (?) in per game attendance, we have been losing fans for a while now, the last 3 yrs plus COVID-19 has accelerated the loss of Fans & Revenue.

At this point we might as well give him the next 2 yrs., my opinion is that unless we win 6 Games next yr, he's gone, he wins 6 Gms, he gets the 2nd Yr, that's a full 5 years to do whatever it is he's going to do.
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Georgia Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years. (Not sure why you are comparing it to CPJ last season)

www.ajc.com

Georgia Tech attendance down significantly

Georgia Tech’s losing at Bobby Dodd Stadium has not been confined to the field. Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years.
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Getting that 10th win will be so sweet in late October.
 
GTFLETCH said:
Georgia Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years. (Not sure why you are comparing it to CPJ last season)

www.ajc.com

Georgia Tech attendance down significantly

Georgia Tech’s losing at Bobby Dodd Stadium has not been confined to the field. Tech’s season attendance is tracking to be its lowest in more than 30 years.
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com
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I apologize for the confusion.

Others are saying that we can't afford to keep CGC for any longer due to Revenues being lost, my point was that we've been bleeding Attendance numbers since 2014, I think we give him 1 more year and make him earn every additional year after that.

Those that say we can't afford to keep him don't realize that firing CGC won't suddenly put our avg. Attendance at 52K overnight, no matter who we hire our Fans warm up very slowly to GT FB success, and since gaining back Fans is likely to be a slow climb, paying $12 to $14MM in buyout Money doesn't help the situation.

Gotta have 6 or 7 wins next year to get year 5, that's the marching orders that TStan gave CGC ( my guess).
 
GTFLETCH said:
As some have said recently, it will cost Georgia Tech more NOT to fire Coach Collins than to keep him on for another year or two. While we still have talent, the time is now to get someone who knows what they are doing. If not, we will lose more money, lose talented players via the transfer portal, and our entire athletic program will suffer as a result. This is the worst situation I have seen Tech's football program in my lifetime. I'm too young to remember clearly the period from 1979 to 1981.
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I guess you'll just have to die on that "it will cost us more to keep him" hill. You gave it a good try. I don't see it. Obviously, the powers that be don't see it. Perhaps you can schedule a meeting with TS and take your flip charts.
 
PressManCoverage said:
This post really did age poorly.

As soon as you posted, the AJC released an article where TStan doubled down on CGC, to quote TStan, "I have my man......."

At least the guy in charge has some big cajones!
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You are crowing real early. Everything in his post can still come true. How often do AD's give coaches a vote of confidence right before they are fired, it seems like well over the majority of the time. I think Collins stays; but I'll be disappointed if we don't see some changes in the ranks below him.
 
77GTFan said:
Trying to tamp down the firing frenzy Saturday will likely cause. Plus, he talked to Cabrera and Angel probably told him he could see the progress. El Presidente was there in South Bend.
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Maybe you didn't watch the game; but there was no progress to be seen in South Bend. The team quit in the first quarter, that is what anyone watching the game saw. I hope we at least see the team attempt to put up a fight this Saturday.
 
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