Things seen at a Clemson Labor Day Tailgate

And Georgia Tech is crazy hard to get into it. I asked the HS counselor a couple of years ago when my youngest started ninth grade “What do his mom and I need to do to make sure he gets into Georgia Tech?” She did not bat an eye and said “ Make sure he’s the valedictorian and start practicing SAT/ACT now.” I was 22 away from being my high school class valedictorian in 1986.

So my dad (BS Materials Science '69), one of my brothers (BSCE '98, MSCE '00) and me (MSCE '93) all went to Tech. My very younger brother applied for the class of '07 and was not admitted despite a 3.8GPA but a mediocre SAT. Triple legacy but no dice. Needless to say the family was pissed.

It's ridiculously hard for some demographics and some localities.

I know a kid who scored a 1530 on the SAT . . . as a Junior. Honor Society . . . A student . . . but not A+ student. Lots of extracurriculars.

Got the wait list. Attended a VERY competitive high school in the south (but not Georgia) and they already took two others from the same school with slightly better grades, but lower SATs.

I know another kid with real good grades, but an SAT in the 1400s and not much in the way of extracurriculars. But he was from Kali and got in. Not a legacy, either. But he couldn't get into UCLA or Cal Bezerkley. These schools really do look for diversity when it comes to geography.

And I know a third kid from the Atlanta area who was accepted by Tech with significantly worse grades and a lower SAT score than the ones I mentioned above. The admission statistics I saw last time I checked a few years ago said that it was just a lot easier to get into Tech if you're in-state. And maybe it should be. But it's backwards from a lot of other states, like Kali where getting into UCLA in-state, for example, is nigh impossible. Also easier to get into UNC and UVA from out of state than in state - at least it was a few years ago when I checked.

I was my class Valedictorian in 1978, but my SAT was only 1440 and I was out of state. With that I managed to get accepted at MIT, but there is zero chance of that today, and I doubt I would get into Tech either.

The thing is, if you were a really bright kid living in Hangzhou in 1978, you probably didn't know what a Georgia Tech was, and even if you did, you sure as hell had no way to figure out how to get ahold of an application and apply to go there. AlGore's Amazing Interwebs changed all that. Kids all over the world now can access an application quickly and easily from a website. And kids from outside the US generally pay full freight, too . . . and schools love that. Competition today is soooooooooo much greater than in the 1960s, 70s and 80s.
 
They aren’t all bad

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It's ridiculously hard for some demographics and some localities.

I know a kid who scored a 1530 on the SAT . . . as a Junior. Honor Society . . . A student . . . but not A+ student. Lots of extracurriculars.

Got the wait list. Attended a VERY competitive high school in the south (but not Georgia) and they already took two others from the same school with slightly better grades, but lower SATs.

I know another kid with real good grades, but an SAT in the 1400s and not much in the way of extracurriculars. But he was from Kali and got in. Not a legacy, either. But he couldn't get into UCLA or Cal Bezerkley. These schools really do look for diversity when it comes to geography.

And I know a third kid from the Atlanta area who was accepted by Tech with significantly worse grades and a lower SAT score than the ones I mentioned above. The admission statistics I saw last time I checked a few years ago said that it was just a lot easier to get into Tech if you're in-state. And maybe it should be. But it's backwards from a lot of other states, like Kali where getting into UCLA in-state, for example, is nigh impossible. Also easier to get into UNC and UVA from out of state than in state - at least it was a few years ago when I checked.

I was my class Valedictorian in 1978, but my SAT was only 1440 and I was out of state. With that I managed to get accepted at MIT, but there is zero chance of that today, and I doubt I would get into Tech either.

The thing is, if you were a really bright kid living in Hangzhou in 1978, you probably didn't know what a Georgia Tech was, and even if you did, you sure as hell had no way to figure out how to get ahold of an application and apply to go there. AlGore's Amazing Interwebs changed all that. Kids all over the world now can access an application quickly and easily from a website. And kids from outside the US generally pay full freight, too . . . and schools love that. Competition today is soooooooooo much greater than in the 1960s, 70s and 80s.
The current admissions policies are damaging the United States and the state of Georgia. I doubt anyone in the admissions office is a Georgia Tech graduate.
 
The current admissions policies are damaging the United States and the state of Georgia. I doubt anyone in the admissions office is a Georgia Tech graduate.
Actually, the one young gal who led the orientation when I visited back in 2018 claimed to be a Tech grad. Prettty sure she had to be an IM Major or something like that. I mean, what do you expect? Come out of Tech with a CS degree and top grades and you're way beyond 80K-ing right out of the gate. Do you think the admissions department can complete with those salaries, nevermind future opportunities?
 
Actually, the one young gal who led the orientation when I visited back in 2018 claimed to be a Tech grad. Prettty sure she had to be an IM Major or something like that. I mean, what do you expect? Come out of Tech with a CS degree and top grades and you're way beyond 80K-ing right out of the gate. Do you think the admissions department can complete with those salaries, nevermind future opportunities?
I suspect the management team for the admissions department is much beyond 80K. One of the problems in higher education is that there are too many people in administration who are paid too much and have guaranteed employment. Another problem is that most have never worked for a for profit company in the real world.
 
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Word of note, while most Clemson fans love cock, they really don’t care for USCe.
 
I know they are wearing orange and their mascot is a tiger, but you most certainly didn’t overhear their fan say

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Quite a few ladies who paid off THEIR OWN student loans by stripping.

Congratulate those ladies.
 
Actually, the one young gal who led the orientation when I visited back in 2018 claimed to be a Tech grad. Prettty sure she had to be an IM Major or something like that. I mean, what do you expect? Come out of Tech with a CS degree and top grades and you're way beyond 80K-ing right out of the gate. Do you think the admissions department can complete with those salaries, nevermind future opportunities?

No, but they know how to spell "compete". :dunno:
 
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