Thoughts on Chan Gailey(Long)

Beeware,

Great Coaching Staff????

Give me freakin' break!! They TERRIBLY underachieved last year!! If THEY didn't have so much raw talent at their (literal) disposal, they probably would have had a losing season!! Last year the coaching was absolutely ABYSMAL!!

And it wasn't limited to last year. How about Navy and Maryland in 1996...and Boston College in 1998...and UVA and Wake in 1999 (and almost UNC and Duke)...and NCSU and LSU in 2000.

I really don't like to say anything negative about O'Leary or previous coaches and I generally have been positive about the previous regime, but your continued harping on how "great" they were and how bad gailey is going to be forces me to remind you that O'Leary and crew underachieved many, many times.
 
getwrecked,
Yeah using your petty logic, I am very surprised that FSU didn't fire Bobby Bowden and Mickey Andrews after North Carolina stomped a mudhole in them (which was the week after we would have played them if not for the 9-11 tragedy).
How could FSU possibly keep Bowden and Andrews after underachieving so bad.
Ridiculous.

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Chan will do fine at GT. We are in a good position folks and IMO Chan is an excellent coach. Give the man an opportunity to prove himself before we question his coaching ability.
 
Beeware,

MY petty logic??

You aren't the only one who can criticize. At least I criticised someone for what they did, not for my opinion of what I think they will do.

Let's see...we'll let O'Leary and his "great coaching staff" slide for all those screw-ups, but Gailey hasn't lost a game yet and you're on him like ugly on an ape!!

Pot-Kettle-Black.
 
Oh yeah,

And the fact that you even IMPLY to put O'Leary in the same class as Bowden shows:

1. that you know nothing about what you speak, or
2. are too emotionally involved to think clearly.

P-p-p-h-h-h-t-t-t!! Pepsi through the nose!!!!
 
I agree with whiskey clear when he posted on another board, that you O'leary bashers are a bunch of unnappreciative pissants.
You are so willing to blow all this gold smoke about 'Buck' Gailey before he even coaches his first Division 1 game ever, but are unwilling to give O'leary his due credit for the tremendous job he did bringing us back from the Bill Lewis I fiasco. Maybe if we are lucky O'leary will come back and bring us back from the 'Buck' Lewis II fiasco that is coming surely as a train wreck. Fortunately, with the talent that O'leary left here, and the fact that (luckily) Bill O'brien is still here, the overall 'Buck' Lewis II effect will take a few years to be fully realized.

In 'Buck' We (blindly) Trust

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I don't really feel a "duty" to support GT, but I certainly DESIRE to do so. I'm a college football fan, and Tech has been my favorite team for 48 years. I don't understand a person calling himself a "fan" while constantly bashing the program, unless he's just a fisherman who likes acting like an a-hole more than he likes Tech. I hope we're all around 5 years from now and get to make a definitive judgement about CG. Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy college football and pull like hell for Tech. Just like the last 48 years.
 
Originally posted by beeware:
I agree with whiskey clear when he posted on another board, that you O'leary bashers are a bunch of unnappreciative pissants.
You are so willing to blow all this gold smoke about 'Buck' Gailey before he even coaches his first Division 1 game ever, but are unwilling to give O'leary his due credit for the tremendous job he did bringing us back from the Bill Lewis I fiasco. Maybe if we are lucky O'leary will come back and bring us back from the 'Buck' Lewis II fiasco that is coming surely as a train wreck. Fortunately, with the talent that O'leary left here, and the fact that (luckily) Bill O'brien is still here, the overall 'Buck' Lewis II effect will take a few years to be fully realized.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I agree with true Tech fans when they posted on another board, that you Gailey bashers are a bunch of unnappreciative pissants.
You are so willing to blow all this gold smoke about O'Leary after he didn't meet expectations, but are unwilling to give Gailey his due credit for the tremendous job he did at the pro level and before he even coaches a game at Tech.
 
Beeware,

Don't even THINK about putting words in my mouth.

1. I NEVER said I didn't appreciate what O'Leary did. I sincerely DO appreciate him bringing us back. If I didn't, I would have been calling for his head after all those "wake-up calls"!! If you'll look at my other posts, I ALWAYS gladly give him credit for what he deserves. But he also had his flaws, which you seem to overlook. YOU my friend are the one who blows gold smoke, and it's about our old coach who is history.

2. I never said I thought Gailey will be the greatest coach around. If you think an attitude of "cautious optimism" is blowing gold smoke, I refer to my previous post about your current state of mind.

3. You make such a big deal about Gailey never having coached a Div 1 game before. BFD!!! Come close - let me let you in on a secret. At some point ALL coaches had never coached a Div 1 game before!! By your criteria, Oklahoma should never have hired Stoops, and Maryland should never have hired Ralph!! Go to their board and tell them how stupid they are.

4. I'll agree that I thank God for the talent O'Leary left here - or last year would have been more like Bill Lewis than you want to realize.
 
I think its pretty obvious that DB was trying to do the best thing by finding the most qualified man with local connections in his pursuit and hiring of Coach Gailey. Its completely arguable and reasonable that George's tenure and staff were largely done and the new coach should have some authority to select and build his own staff.
Local favorites O'B and Ted were offered the chance to stay. DB's actions seem perfectly credible if they're looked at with less than a jaundiced eye and its our duty as TECH fans to support the new coalition, particularly at this crucial stage. If they have a disastrous year then we can all be mocked for doing the right thing. The thing to do now is support the program
which, by the way, it wholeheartedly deserves.
 
belly,
No one is bashing the program. I am just pointing out to you 'gold-smoke blowers' that it was unnecessary and stupid for Braine to throw away what O'leary built up just for the sake of hiring his own yes man. It is very natural for a true TECH fan to be upset just like I am, and not just sit around and kiss Braine's arse and blindly follow Braine's folly over the Bill Lewis cliff.
One Bill Lewis was enough in my lifetime. That is why 'Buck' Lewis II is so hard to take for some of us lifetime TECH fans.

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I agree with you bellyseries. I have a hard time
tolerating anyone bashing Tech constantly even when it is deserved. I initially shared some of beeware"s sentiments about retaining some of our
previous coaches-especially coach kelly but the decision was made to go with CG and I quickly accepted that and will totally support our coach and his staff. Ihave little doubt that we have improved ourselves as far as gameday coach-the only reservationsI have about Chan and his staff is whether we will consistently recruit at the level
that O'leary did. But win or lose I will support
the jackets and I urge beware to come on board
and to cease criticizing our program. If chan recruits well-then we are on our way.
 
The main problem I had with the change in the coaching staff has already been resolved. All that lost their jobs are working for some program in college football. They appear to be happy enough, otherwise we would have known different. If they had failed to find other jobs, then I may have been a little peeved, but this is major college football. There are going to be turnovers and not everyone will return to college football to work. Whatever is withholding you. release it. They are all in their own happy little worlds now. They are living their lives. Beeware, do the same.
 
Beeware is just an idiot... I have a feeling we are supporting him through some federally funded program.... He is just an idiot... and again, in my opinion.. .sounds like the prototype loser....
 
OK. I have ignored Beeware again and again, but since no one else seems to and he appears here to stay I have a question no one seems to have addressed. What's the deal with this "yes, man" stuff?? Why do you think that Chan Gailey is a "yes man" to Braine? Do you have some solid factual basis for this accusation or is it just some kneejerk reaction to Gailey's hiring?? As far as the assistants go (and I know this is where you are sensitive) I certainly don't think that Gailey was/is being a yes man and if he was why in the world is EVERYONE that he hired someone who used to work with him or with whom he has close ties?? I mean if he truly was Braine's "yes man" as you say then Braine would have had MUCH more of a say in the hiring of assistants, don't you think?? I just don't get it.

I'm sure you won't speak much to this since you never seem to answer questions more thoroughly than to repeat the same tired stuff you've spouted time and again. It's just that it makes no sense to me....Whatever.

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JacketFan, I can not speak for BeeWare, but I can certainly see the truth. The only persons Gailey was a "yes man" for was O'Brien and Roof. He agreed to keep those two at the request of Braine.

Other than those two, he made his own selections, and might I add, he made some very good choices. I will venture to guess, if he had not been somewhat obligated to take O'Brien, our new OC would be Nix. I still say Nix gets the job as soon as O'Brien leaves.

I have no illusions about O'Brien leaving. He will leave the first chance he gets.

If you check the bios of both Nix and O'Brien, it becomes very clear that Nix grew up with the offensive side of the ball and is much better suited to be the OC than O'Brien. O'Brien was a defensive player in college.

O'Brien has yet to prove himself. His only year was 2001, and he had the advantage of having a very smart QB returning. Even with that advantage, there were many missed calls on offense. We had many "one yard and a cloud of dust" calls that thwarted scoring drives.

His first year as the OC was a mixed bag with less wins than was expected from the team. Whether the poor calls were his calls or O'Leary's, it was his responsibility to make the right calls. It was also his responsibility to play the right players, and we are well aware Sean Gregory and some other backs were misused, or not used.

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Ah, thanks for posting. I understand and I meant to post about O'Brien and Roof. I can certainly understand the logic of keeping them for continuity sake. I don't think CG was/is a "yes man" for keeping either or both of them.

As far as O'Brien goes, I think we'll see how good an OC he really is this year. I think O'Leary had him held in check somewhat last year. This season will tell the tale. Like you say, he will have 2 new QB's under his wing who both are still learning his system. I beelieve O'Brien is plenty sharp enough to be an excellent offensive coordinator, but this will be his first year to prove himself as BOTH OC AND QB coach. Should be interesting to say the least. I do think like you that he has his sights set toward a head coaching job on the college level or a NFL coaching job. I do seem to think that he's gonna be at Tech beyond this season so he can learn as much as possible from Coach Gailey and all his experience. Of course if he feels like he's garnered all he can after this year, he'll bolt.
 
JacketFan, I probably did not make myself clear. I do not consider Chan as a yes-man for keeping O'Brien and Roof. My intent was to show that if he was a yes-man, it could only have come at the expense of those two. All of the other hires were totally his decision.

When BeeWare calls him a yes-man, it could only be for keeping O'Brien and Roof, but for no other reason.

I do believe he kept O'Brien and Roof out of courtesy more than any other reason. If I was a new head coach and there had been a lot of waffling by the OC and DC regarding leaving Tech and bolting with O'Leary to Notre Dame, I would have cleared the slate and gotten me two other candidates.

For the above reason, I believe he was asked to consider keeping those two, although I don't believe he was forced to do so.

I don't think O'Brien is a bad coach, he just has not had the time to prove himself. I personally feel Nix is a notch above O'Brien, but neither has had the real opportunity to prove themselves. Personally, If I were a CEO reading the two resumes, I would have preferred Nix over O'Brien solely on the two bios.

Overall, I think we pretty much agree on the situation.

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It had been very obvious that Coach O'leary and Braine did not get along and Braine did not try to keep O'leary when Notre Dame came calling. Braine wanted someone that he could TOTALLY control and that would willingly kiss his arse. O'leary would never do that. 'Buck' does it (right in the middle) willingly and enthusiastically every day.
And, ahso, as far as O'brien and Nix....no comparison....O'brien is light years ahead of Nix.
We will win in spite of 'Buck' this year (and maybe next year too if O'brien stays) but we probably cannot win in spite of him and this mediocre staff forever. The sad thing is it didn't have to be this way, no matter what you gold smoke blowers say.

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You red smoke blowers should really get a life, or some facts, or both.

How was that "obvious"? I have no idea, and from the sounds of things neither did anyone else. Please enlighten us, O Red Smokey?
 
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