To you maggots that boo...

[ahsoisee]

Yes, and the booing made no difference at all. Most athletes are concentrating on their assignments and their responsibilities in the games, regardless of the sport, and don't have time to get involved with antics of the crowd.

In fact, if the athlete is letting the crowd affect his game, he should probably be on the bench and someone else should take his place.

And, you are correct, we will have to agree to disagree on this subject. I doubt I can change your mind, and I feel sure you cannot change mine, so we will have to leave it at that.

By the way, someone asked if my daughter were playing, would I boo? Yes. I have coached both of my daughters in different sports and my son as well. I was harder on them than anybody else. But, they are used to a tough Dad that loved them and wanted the best for them.

All three of them were rewarded for playing on championship teams.

 

[DaveTech]

Oh Please.... I assume you are talking about the Mets, Yankees, etc... one little difference here... They are professional athletes... amateur athletes should not be booed...

How much do they pay for room, board, and tuition? Maybe they are not "professional" to you Jacketguy but they are certainly not volutneers to me.

 

[jacketguy]

Originally posted by ahsoisee:
Yes, and the booing made no difference at all. Most athletes are concentrating on their assignments and their responsibilities in the games, regardless of the sport, and don't have time to get involved with antics of the crowd.

In fact, if the athlete is letting the crowd affect his game, he should probably be on the bench and someone else should take his place.

And, you are correct, we will have to agree to disagree on this subject. I doubt I can change your mind, and I feel sure you cannot change mine, so we will have to leave it at that.

By the way, someone asked if my daughter were playing, would I boo? Yes. I have coached both of my daughters in different sports and my son as well. I was harder on them than anybody else. But, they are used to a tough Dad that loved them and wanted the best for them.

All three of them were rewarded for playing on championship teams.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Ah.. one last thought on this.. .using this logic... then cheering a team on has no impact either...

if booing, which is deemed negative, has no impact.. then neither can cheering... which is deemed positive... and using this logic further.. .then the fans dont really matter at all... so fans are only important from the standpoint of gate revenue? I dont think so....

You and I both know this is not the case... you could see it in the body language of the two teams on Saturday... you can also see it in the body language of a team when the crowd is cheering... it does make a difference....

And while everyone has their "right" to do whatever it is they choose... booing a team is a statement that we arent behind you... we dont support you... we dont believe in you... I dont want to do that to ANY Tech football player...

And in my opinion, being "hard" on your kids is much different than booing your kids... hey, you sound like you were a good coach...

 

[ahsoisee]

JacketGuy, booing has less effect on a team than cheering. Booing is generally spasmodic and normally comes once or twice during a game when the coach keeps making the same poor decisions over and over.

Cheering is generally more boisterous and continues longer, like stamping of the feet, standing and roaring approval, and is generally from the whole crowd. It adds an aura to the game, where booing has a minimal effect.

It is ironic that we hear booing of the coaches decisions and start discussing it on the boards, and by some mysterious means, some posters break in with statements of fans booing the players. It never fails. Every time this discussion comes up, I and others state very emphatically that we do not nor never have booed an athlete.

Most fans boo the coaches decisions and the calls of the referees. It is uncanny how some keep bringing the players back into the picture. And don't bring the statement back to me, "the players don't know the difference". If you ever participated in athletics, you know better.

JacketGuy, I was one of those kids that loved sports so much, it pretty much consumed my life. Of course, at my age, I am just a spectator now, however, I still follow college football and basketball faithfully. When I was younger, I loved baseball the best, but now it seems so boring, I can't get too excited about it anymore.

I do watch the Yellow Jackets if one of their baseball games happen to be on the TV.

 

[mustard]

CaptainG, Oldfoggy, and JacketGuy, you guys are right on!! Booing from GT fans against GT has no place in the public arena on display to the whole world. It presents a divided front. We want to present a united front. We can be divided in private; that is OK and to be expected. But when the decision is made, then we should all get behind it and push with all we have. Outsiders will see the unity and it will attract recruits and threaten opponents. At Georgia Tech it is all for one and one for all!

 

[DaveTech]

And then you wonder why the stadium has more FSU or UGA fans. Rah Rah for Tech even when they suck or get the hell out. I suppose when your company takes away your pension and health benefits you just sit around "Oh I am so lucky to have a job!"

 

[jacketguy]

Originally posted by DaveTech:
And then you wonder why the stadium has more FSU or UGA fans. Rah Rah for Tech even when they suck or get the hell out. I suppose when your company takes away your pension and health benefits you just sit around "Oh I am so lucky to have a job!"

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">You lost me on that one DaveTech... I dont see how a college kid playing football has anything to do with jeapardizing a persons financial security... unless they are the one responsible for coaching that kid.. or unless they have bet a fortune on that game !!

 

[jacketguy]

Originally posted by ahsoisee:
JacketGuy, booing has less effect on a team than cheering. Booing is generally spasmodic and normally comes once or twice during a game when the coach keeps making the same poor decisions over and over.

Cheering is generally more boisterous and continues longer, like stamping of the feet, standing and roaring approval, and is generally from the whole crowd. It adds an aura to the game, where booing has a minimal effect.

Most fans boo the coaches decisions and the calls of the referees. It is uncanny how some keep bringing the players back into the picture. And don't bring the statement back to me, "the players don't know the difference". If you ever participated in athletics, you know better.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Interesting info there Ahso.... just out of curiosity... where did you find all this data on cheering and booing? Would love it if you would shoot me the link ....

And I disagree with you on "the players dont know the difference".... they dont... but I have already said what I thought... booing has no place in amateur sports...

Please shoot me that link to the booing/cheering data though.... sounds really interesting...

 

[gameface]

For the most part these are kids with family and friends in the stands. I often feel like booing but I can't see where it is a positive thing and mostly I think its just me getting frustrated but when the game is put in perspective and I see my girls having fun and cheering the team no matter what, the booing does seem silly.

 

[oldfoggy]

J Guy you are swimming against the tide here. I totally agree with you but you can't fight small mind sets. They don't use logic only emotions so quit the fight you can be proud of your efforts to educate some here. But you did fight the good fight.

 

[ahsoisee]

JacketGuy, you have not provided any proof that booing is not an alternative to cheering. I have on the other hand proved conclusively that it is a right guaranteed by the purchase of the ticket.

You asked me if I had played before crowds where the fans were booing the coaches and referees, and I answered yes. You asked me if it affected me and I answered no. So from proof of a legal right and personal experience, I again offer you proof that it is okay to boo coaches and referees.

Since that is all that is involved here, we need not even bring up booing of athletes.

Since I have offered you proof and you have offered none, how about taking a poll of at least 100,000 athletes selected randomly from valid candidates that have played before crowds and poll them. Ask them if booing of referees and coached decisions affected their game performances. Then post the results here.

By the way, shoot me a link of all your findings proving booing of referees and coaching decisions greatly affects the performance of the athletes. Do not post quotes from coaches or referees as they are highly biased and the most likely to agree with you, because it shows up their mistakes.

OldFoggy, I will rename you BeeWare II, because you stoop to name calling when you can't debate the issue with statistics or facts. Consider the possibility, you may be the person with the small mindset.

 

[jacketguy]

Ahso..

As I said earlier.. we will just have to agree to disagree on this one...

In regards to "you have not provided any proof that booing is not an alternative to cheering"... I can only laugh... I will check for all those booing the next time I attend a play at the Fox... after all... its just alternative cheering.... and I wonder why announcers on TV make it a point to explain that "Georgia fans arent booing.. they are just saying MUSA.. " after all... its just alternative cheering...nothing wrong with the home crowd booing... after all booing the home team is a morale booster...we all know that... why I bet evev the Romans booed way back when...

In my opinion..... the booing gave Tech a black eye on Saturday... yours opinion differs... you and I just have a different set of values in that regard...nothing wrong with that.... thats what makes this country great !!

My last post on this thread...

I wont be booing my team !!

 

[ahsoisee]

JacketGuy, don't be fooled by my answers. I enjoy reading your posts even though we do not always agree on the issues.

Actually, I enjoy all kinds of debates as you may have observed.

 

[bellyseries]

Originally posted by oldfoggy:
J Guy you are swimming against the tide here. I totally agree with you but you can't fight small mind sets. They don't use logic only emotions so quit the fight you can be proud of your efforts to educate some here. But you did fight the good fight.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Old Foggy, you and I are on the same side of this argyment, but I have to disagree that they're using emotion and we're using logic. Ahso is being 100% logical :

"If you buy a ticket, you are legally authorized to boo."

The other side is being emotional:

"You don't boo amateur athletes, you don't boo at amateur contests (unless a male fan runs on the field naked), you don't insist on 'rights' ; instead you act like a gentleman because that's a better way to live."

I'm on the emotional side.

 

[CrackerJacket]

Its really simple for me...

If you boo the GT players, you are not welcome at
my tailgate.

The coaches are fair game and the refs are one of
my favorite targets. But boo'ing a GT player is
sacriledge IMHO.