UGA week off before Tech game
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You can argue that the week off helps or hurts, but there are too many factors to know for sure. I don't think the preparation time makes as much of a difference as the recovery time from injuries and maybe the emotional recovery from a close game the week before. We're going to go to Athens with a bunch of beat-up freshman and sophomores that have been on an emotional roller-coaster this season. I really think that CPJ can outcoach Richt even with less prep time. There is no question that CPJ understands this rivalry and will give us the best possible chance of a win. I don't know if there is anyone (coaches or players) at UGA who have ever experienced a loss to Tech. They have a "we're not worried" attitude which makes them vulnerable especially at home.
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This pisses me off to no end. GT can't let ACC scheduling screw our game with the dawgs. We need to have a bye week before this game standard EVERY year.
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The best way to do that is to play the game on labor day. We beat them 5 out of 10 times on Labor Day.
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What makes you say that? I don't think they've ever taken that approach to this game. You don't do that and win seven straight in a rivalry series, especially winning so many close games. Each of the past several years there have been spots where they could have wilted, given up, or just not made the big plays, but they've always come through.
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My impression is mostly from their fans. Maybe the team's attitude is different, but I don't think you can dominate a rivalry like they have and not become overconfident at some point. 7 in a row would make anyone take the game lightly. That doesn't mean they don't take it as seriously as any other game, but they go in expecting to win. We approach the game differently.
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We don't need a bye-week to beat Georgia. We don't need Georgia to not have a bye week to beat Georgia. We don't need Georgia to be overconfident. We don't need to get lucky. We don't need a miracle. We need to be healthy and play well and hit them in the mother****ing mouth and stomp a mudhole in their weak little asses.
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?????!!!!!
My friend, we have won 3 out of the last 17, a winning percentage of 18% if my math is correct. We go to 50% by rescheduling? It's easy to say but most of us aren't buying it..why not propose that we would win 8 out of 10 in September?
Here is my take....we are almost mathematically eliminated from the ACC, as is the case more often than not in early November. Assuming that the Ga game has already been played, do most of us care whether or not we end up in Shreveport, Boise or Baltimore? Probably not...but because the Uga game is in front of us yet, it's Nov.13th and I still have 3 more weeks of GT football to get pumped up for. The Miami game is important now because it allows us to regain some momentum/confidence for the season finale.
My friend, we have won 3 out of the last 17, a winning percentage of 18% if my math is correct. We go to 50% by rescheduling? It's easy to say but most of us aren't buying it..why not propose that we would win 8 out of 10 in September?
Here is my take....we are almost mathematically eliminated from the ACC, as is the case more often than not in early November. Assuming that the Ga game has already been played, do most of us care whether or not we end up in Shreveport, Boise or Baltimore? Probably not...but because the Uga game is in front of us yet, it's Nov.13th and I still have 3 more weeks of GT football to get pumped up for. The Miami game is important now because it allows us to regain some momentum/confidence for the season finale.
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I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. The ACC doesn't give two craps about us. They sure as heck aren't going to work their schedule around us getting a bye week b4 uga every year. Our conference craps on us every chance they get.
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Re: ?????!!!!!
We have lost more games to UGAG in the 4th quarter than any other team I know of. That is a pure and simple chronic depth issue. Playing them on Labor Day would change all that. Who knows exactly how many we would win, but it would certainly be more. Auburn, Alabama and Notre Dame all know well how we play eaarly in the season.
We have lost more games to UGAG in the 4th quarter than any other team I know of. That is a pure and simple chronic depth issue. Playing them on Labor Day would change all that. Who knows exactly how many we would win, but it would certainly be more. Auburn, Alabama and Notre Dame all know well how we play eaarly in the season.
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If depth is the root cause...
then fix it, don't work around the problem and undo 50? 75? 100? years of tradition. besides, won't they still have more depth than us in September anyway?
then fix it, don't work around the problem and undo 50? 75? 100? years of tradition. besides, won't they still have more depth than us in September anyway?
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Re: ?????!!!!!
Paul Johnson was brought here to win championships. It's tough to win championships, ACC or otherwise, if you don't think you can win games at the end of the season. If we follow your logic and move the game to the beginning of the season, what was the point of getting rid of Chan?
Paul Johnson was brought here to win championships. It's tough to win championships, ACC or otherwise, if you don't think you can win games at the end of the season. If we follow your logic and move the game to the beginning of the season, what was the point of getting rid of Chan?
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Re: ?????!!!!!
UGAG has an institutional advantage over us that relates directly to depth. This will not change, and it has always been the case. They are annually one of the toughest, if not the toughest team we play. For the last 7 years, no other team has compared, except possibly VT. This will continue.
Dodd was 13-9 against UGAG, overall, and was the only modern coach to have a winning record against them. However, his record after the civil rights act of 1963, when the playing field changed drastically, was 0-3. Carson was 2-3. Fulcher was 0-2. Rodgers was 2-4. Curry was 2-5. Ross was 2-3. Lewis was 0-2. O'Leary was 3-5. Gailey was 0-6.
It is to our advantage to play UGAG first, rather than last. This will help negate their inherent advantage. The heck with tradition, why should we give them all the advantages? Why not just accept the tradition of losing to UGAG every year?
BTW, for bowls, we have a month to heal and rest, and so we tend to do better in bowls. They are not an issue.
As for more depth in September, yes their depth will still be greater, but depth isn't near the issue in September that it is in November.
On a similar note, in basketball, UGAG couldn't beat us playing in the Omni away from Stegman every year over Christmas. Guess what he did? He moved the game back to home-home. They own the series record since then.
It is no shame to alter a schedule to help yourself. It is smart. Stupidity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
UGAG has an institutional advantage over us that relates directly to depth. This will not change, and it has always been the case. They are annually one of the toughest, if not the toughest team we play. For the last 7 years, no other team has compared, except possibly VT. This will continue.
Dodd was 13-9 against UGAG, overall, and was the only modern coach to have a winning record against them. However, his record after the civil rights act of 1963, when the playing field changed drastically, was 0-3. Carson was 2-3. Fulcher was 0-2. Rodgers was 2-4. Curry was 2-5. Ross was 2-3. Lewis was 0-2. O'Leary was 3-5. Gailey was 0-6.
It is to our advantage to play UGAG first, rather than last. This will help negate their inherent advantage. The heck with tradition, why should we give them all the advantages? Why not just accept the tradition of losing to UGAG every year?
BTW, for bowls, we have a month to heal and rest, and so we tend to do better in bowls. They are not an issue.
As for more depth in September, yes their depth will still be greater, but depth isn't near the issue in September that it is in November.
On a similar note, in basketball, UGAG couldn't beat us playing in the Omni away from Stegman every year over Christmas. Guess what he did? He moved the game back to home-home. They own the series record since then.
It is no shame to alter a schedule to help yourself. It is smart. Stupidity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
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Look @ Uga/UF series...
Ga. used to own UF. Now the Gators have won 80% (16 times) out of the last 20...in neither situation do I recall one team asking for the game to be rescheduled. In florida's case they simply manned up, hired the right coach(s) and just started kicking Ga.'s ass. Same with OSU/Michigan...UM used to beatdown the Buckeyes...they (OSU) didn't ask to move that game either. I'm sure that there were fans at UF, OSU and now Uga that wanted to look past root causes and seek a quick fix but most people held out for tradition. can you imagine OSU/UM on Labor Day?along with Texas/Oklahoma,that is THE premier college game in terms of passion, rivalry, etc. During our last streak against Uga, albeit a rather modest 3 games, was there any discussion on the boards about rescheduling?
Ga. used to own UF. Now the Gators have won 80% (16 times) out of the last 20...in neither situation do I recall one team asking for the game to be rescheduled. In florida's case they simply manned up, hired the right coach(s) and just started kicking Ga.'s ass. Same with OSU/Michigan...UM used to beatdown the Buckeyes...they (OSU) didn't ask to move that game either. I'm sure that there were fans at UF, OSU and now Uga that wanted to look past root causes and seek a quick fix but most people held out for tradition. can you imagine OSU/UM on Labor Day?along with Texas/Oklahoma,that is THE premier college game in terms of passion, rivalry, etc. During our last streak against Uga, albeit a rather modest 3 games, was there any discussion on the boards about rescheduling?
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Re: Look @ Uga/UF series...
Can you honestly not see the difference between GA Tech and Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma and Texas? Those are all major state universities that share the same institutional advantages that UGAG enjoys over us. They are on a relatively level playing field with each other.
In the late 90's, UGAG had a bad HC who could not beat any of his major rivals at the time. We, OTOH, were "cheating" to keep players eligible - otherwise we would not have had the depth to compete. The 90's saw some of the worst coached UGAG teams in recent memory. In 1998-2000 we had some of the best teams in our history. Yet they were all close.
These are odd years for them, and we won. There are always the odd years in which they lack depth, have a sub-par HC, or just have a rash of injuries at a key position.
Look, it's just my opinion on things. You may disagree. That is fine.
Can you honestly not see the difference between GA Tech and Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma and Texas? Those are all major state universities that share the same institutional advantages that UGAG enjoys over us. They are on a relatively level playing field with each other.
In the late 90's, UGAG had a bad HC who could not beat any of his major rivals at the time. We, OTOH, were "cheating" to keep players eligible - otherwise we would not have had the depth to compete. The 90's saw some of the worst coached UGAG teams in recent memory. In 1998-2000 we had some of the best teams in our history. Yet they were all close.
These are odd years for them, and we won. There are always the odd years in which they lack depth, have a sub-par HC, or just have a rash of injuries at a key position.
Look, it's just my opinion on things. You may disagree. That is fine.
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Re: Look @ Uga/UF series...
You make very valid points, but I still disagree with you on a fundamental level (call it stuck in tradition, whatever...), and with the idea that they will always and forever have better depth than us. I maintain that with the offense that we run, it will most likely be best for us to play this game at the end of the year when we are well into the flow of this offense. Sure, we may have some injuries along the way, but ugay could be in the same boat. We are really lean this year due to the coaching transition, so depth is unarguably an issue this year, but I am not sold that it will always be an issue for us. The new staff has already brought with it new conditioning, and a new attitude. Every game this year, we have been hanging tough, and playing hard in the 4th quarter. That is more than I can say for most of the games under Gailey's tenure. I just don't believe that moving the game will be some cure-all. In fact, what happens if we move the game and nothing changes? Is there some other magical date to move the game to? Do we just give up and cancel the series? Of course not. I'm sure we'll be here wanting our team to man up and fight. Why not do that now? Sure, the option of moving the game is out there, but there is no proof outside of conjecture that it will even make a difference.
You make very valid points, but I still disagree with you on a fundamental level (call it stuck in tradition, whatever...), and with the idea that they will always and forever have better depth than us. I maintain that with the offense that we run, it will most likely be best for us to play this game at the end of the year when we are well into the flow of this offense. Sure, we may have some injuries along the way, but ugay could be in the same boat. We are really lean this year due to the coaching transition, so depth is unarguably an issue this year, but I am not sold that it will always be an issue for us. The new staff has already brought with it new conditioning, and a new attitude. Every game this year, we have been hanging tough, and playing hard in the 4th quarter. That is more than I can say for most of the games under Gailey's tenure. I just don't believe that moving the game will be some cure-all. In fact, what happens if we move the game and nothing changes? Is there some other magical date to move the game to? Do we just give up and cancel the series? Of course not. I'm sure we'll be here wanting our team to man up and fight. Why not do that now? Sure, the option of moving the game is out there, but there is no proof outside of conjecture that it will even make a difference.
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Re: Look @ Uga/UF series...
Look i respect your opinion and figured that you would fall back on the differences between Gt and the schools I mentioned. However if you accept that the gap between those schools and us are such obstacles that we have to "fix" the problem by scheduling can we really hope to get past a tier two program? Let's say we had already played Ga. and now had 2 games left in the conference....Miami and UNC. Miami has historically been an elite program, even above Ga in the pecking order of CFB, and UNC has been a top 10 type program in the past and are getting better under the new coach. So aren't we back in the same boat...playing big schools and/or premier football schools to end the year? Further, let's say we win the ACC which may happen in our lifetime but rescheduled the Ga game because we felt like we couldn't compete with them...what message would that send about the quality of FB in our league?....To me that would scream that our program may be the best in a level 2 conference but we don't feel like we can compete with one of the better programs in a league like the SEC.
If depth is a problem for us beating Ga., won't it keep us from winning the ACC? or is winning the ACC a lesser task? I say fix the problem and keep tradition. As u say, this is also just a personal opinion and I respect your right to disagree but would like your thoughts on the above.
Look i respect your opinion and figured that you would fall back on the differences between Gt and the schools I mentioned. However if you accept that the gap between those schools and us are such obstacles that we have to "fix" the problem by scheduling can we really hope to get past a tier two program? Let's say we had already played Ga. and now had 2 games left in the conference....Miami and UNC. Miami has historically been an elite program, even above Ga in the pecking order of CFB, and UNC has been a top 10 type program in the past and are getting better under the new coach. So aren't we back in the same boat...playing big schools and/or premier football schools to end the year? Further, let's say we win the ACC which may happen in our lifetime but rescheduled the Ga game because we felt like we couldn't compete with them...what message would that send about the quality of FB in our league?....To me that would scream that our program may be the best in a level 2 conference but we don't feel like we can compete with one of the better programs in a league like the SEC.
If depth is a problem for us beating Ga., won't it keep us from winning the ACC? or is winning the ACC a lesser task? I say fix the problem and keep tradition. As u say, this is also just a personal opinion and I respect your right to disagree but would like your thoughts on the above.