Utah attorney general investigating BCS

[BuzzCzar]

Utah would have to share the spoils with their conference, so i dont think that the difference would be that much; plus, the controversy of going undefeated with no chance at the championship might even INCREASE the revenues of some things, like shirts saying "the REAL #1" and stuff like that...

 

[The Jacket]

this is also why the AA has its own trademarks that are different than those of the University

note that the GT used on football helmets, for example, is much squatter and fatter than the GT used by "georgia tech". when you get a letter from the AA, it has the AA GT logo; when you get a letter from georgia tech, it has their skinnier GT logo

Speaking of logos, can we please stop seeing this (LINK) used? I saw it somewhere (Banners at the CPJ show or something) this year and I'm pretty sure this isn't officially our logo. It's a very ugly, sloppy version of Buzz and it makes me want to make out with a hot iron.

 

[mmbt0ne]

USC, prior to the PAC 10 winning a few games at the end, also has no reason to cry. Travel out east and play some meaningful teams like Georgia Tech, you weenies. They've had their day in the sun and will continue to do so because of their overwhelming advantage playing weak teams in a weak conference. We know you can beat up on cold weather teams like , Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. Play some real southern teams.

Wow, you really think the problem is USC not being willing to schedule teams? I'm 100% sure it's other teams not willing to schedule USC. They have shown that they are willing to travel all over the country to play anyone.

Not to mention they only have 3 OOC games b/c the Pac10 makes up for no championship game by doing a true round robin.

Since 2002 even leaving out ND who they play ever year

2002
@ Colorado
@ Kansas State

2003
@ Auburn

2004
@ VT

2005
none

2006
@ Arkansas

2007
@ Nebraska

2008
@ UVA

2009
@ tOSU

 

[BuzzCzar]

Speaking of logos, can we please stop seeing this (LINK) used? I saw it somewhere (Banners at the CPJ show or something) this year and I'm pretty sure this isn't officially our logo. It's a very ugly, sloppy version of Buzz and it makes me want to make out with a hot iron.

check this link
http://dept.gatech.edu/adam/buzz/

 

[lonestarjacket]

The only reason this has gone on this long is because Alabama wasn't the same team at the bowl game. So what, their best player was out. So what. Everyone is hoping that UF beats OU now and then they can attack.

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Why stop there?

Do you care to rehash every win or loss by all the teams with the "yeah, buts"?

Do any other teams to have to exclude any wins if the opponent can come up with any possible excuse? Injury, road game, bad call, bad hair day, etc.

Everybody could be undefeated or winless with enough rationalization. That's why they play the games and keep score.


P.S.
No one was mentioning any excuses for Bama when they were predicting a Bama win. No one said Bama is likely to lose because of this or that special cricumstance.

 

[cajunjacket]

I posted this already, but here it is again. My answer to the problems we have had this year and the many years in the past that the BCS hadn't worked. hivered referred to this: 11 conference champs and 5 at large

 

[GTSaxophone]

I like that format, but after spending time in the other thread, I'm starting to firmly become of the mindset that we need to reevaluate who's in FBS, and drop many of the schools that will never compete on a larger scale. This gives them a chance to actually compete for championships in a different subdivision. We could then take the schools that are left, and do a little realigning. Following that, we could start moving to a playoffs with the BCS for the time being not having to worry about non-BCS vs BCS

 

[gth816f]

Cajunjacket, that will never work. I mean, it will be fine gamewise, but every game will be in front of a half empty stadium except the finals. You simply won't be able to even come close to selling out even a quarterfinal game at a neutral site, unless it happens to be something like USC playing in the Rose Bowl. Just look at basketball...they play in much smaller arenas and even then there are A LOT of empty seats in games before the final four. The travel expenses are just far too much for normal fans, and are people in Miami really going to go watch ECU-Texas? They can't even sell out Miami Hurricanes games.

People don't seem to get that the major roadblock to a playoff isn't the format, it's the money. People are going to lose a lot of money, and those people are the people who run the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, etc.

Also, a lot of people do like the tradition of those big bowls...I can see why the Big X and Pac 10 wouldn't want to go to a playoff, because it would eliminate any relevance the Rose Bowl has, unless they rotated the NC game to there once every four years a la the Super Bowl.

 

[GTSaxophone]

Cajunjacket, that will never work. I mean, it will be fine gamewise, but every game will be in front of a half empty stadium except the finals. You simply won't be able to even come close to selling out even a quarterfinal game at a neutral site, unless it happens to be something like USC playing in the Rose Bowl. Just look at basketball...they play in much smaller arenas and even then there are A LOT of empty seats in games before the final four. The travel expenses are just far too much for normal fans, and are people in Miami really going to go watch ECU-Texas? They can't even sell out Miami Hurricanes games.

People don't seem to get that the major roadblock to a playoff isn't the format, it's the money. People are going to lose a lot of money, and those people are the people who run the Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, etc.

Also, a lot of people do like the tradition of those big bowls...I can see why the Big X and Pac 10 wouldn't want to go to a playoff, because it would eliminate any relevance the Rose Bowl has, unless they rotated the NC game to there once every four years a la the Super Bowl.

I personally could care less about the tradition of the Rose Bowl, and am on record for telling the Big 10 and Pac 10 to go screw their respective selves. A couple of years ago, I was watching something on ESPN, and I heard someone spouting of some garbage about how everyone dreams of playing in the Rose Bowl, and how it's just as big as being in a championship game. I call bull**** on that. Give any football player a choice between the Rose Bowl and a shot at the title, and there wouldn't even be a pause for thought. It's a nice consolation prize as it is for the Big 10 and Pac 10, but I would sacrifice it in a heartbeat for a playoff.

 

[cajunjacket]

... but every game will be in front of a half empty stadium except the finals. You simply won't be able to even come close to selling out even a quarterfinal game at a neutral site, unless it happens to be something like USC playing in the Rose Bowl.

Did you watch half of the bowl games? The music city bowl was a joke. Practically ever bowl before the 31st was a joke ... no one in the stands. It won't change a damn thing. Plus there will be a boost in the revenue from the TV deal that will be made to cover these playoffs.

On a side note, college football has already begun to sell their soul. They have already sold the rights of the BCS to ESPN, a cable company. Anyone who is old enough to remember this will agree with me about how this is just what Professional Boxing did. Professional Boxing used to be on network television. Then it moved to cable. Finally, it moved to PPV and lost most of its fan base. NCAA football better watch out before they start whoring themselves out to the highest bidder. By putting the BCS on ESPN, they will be losing a sizable portion of the viewers.

 

[Essobee]

Someone above the NCAA will eventually tell them to make 8 super conferences with ALL Championship winners in a 8 game playoff.

Then let's just go ahead and become semi-pro teams and pay the athletes. Some of the college coaches already make huge salaries and money is now the name of the game. (TIC)

 

[gth816f]

Did you watch half of the bowl games? The music city bowl was a joke. Practically ever bowl before the 31st was a joke ... no one in the stands. It won't change a damn thing. Plus there will be a boost in the revenue from the TV deal that will be made to cover these playoffs.

I realize that. But what you're going to do is make new, meaningful games that will look like jokes. USC could very well end their season playing in a half empty Dolphin Stadium, and they just don't want that. It's not hard to see why, either. Like you said, it's hard to take anything seriously when the game is half empty. See: ACC:CG. Or see: this year's Orange Bowl. It doesn't make for good press, tv, or anything else. This isn't a big deal for something like the aforementioned Music City bowl, because...well...no one gives a damn about it and it doesn't mean anything. It would, however, be a big deal if it was a playoff involving the top teams in the country.

On the ESPN BCS thing, there is actually a very good indication of how many viewers they will lose if you want to take the time to find the info. Monday Night Football switched from ABC to ESPN after the 2005 season.

Then let's just go ahead and become semi-pro teams and pay the athletes. Some of the college coaches already make huge salaries and money is now the name of the game. (TIC)

Wouldn't be surprised to see this happen eventually. My dad likes to say that 100 years from now, people will look back at this time and marvel about how we have a multi-million dollar industry where the workers who produce the actual content(the players) see none of the revenue. I know it's not as simple as that, and a lot of people think that paying players would ruin the game, but it is a little weird to think about.

 

[TechSBP]

That'd be awesome. They really should do something like that. Tell USC to come up north on Thanksgiving weekend to play a Big 10 team instead of some pointless Pac-10 rivalry game.

scheduling a sunbelt team would be harder than the big twinkie. 1 bowl win?

The big ten is an overrated joke. They make ACC football look exciting.

USC did play the big ten's two best teams. Neither hung with them.