Verification of Tenuta incident

refrigeratormover said:
33, I'm not questioning your motive of this post, but last Tuesday I spent a few hours with some coaches who told me things that was being said to the players but all of them asked me not to repeat it.

Again, you might might (probably) have better relationships down there because you are there a lot. But as someone who played we lived by the motto what's said in the lockerroom should stay in the lockerroom.
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yes u are right. The only thing about the quotes is i personally felt they didn't release too much, it is more of attitude (kinda like olearyish stuff released in the past)....if it is too sensitive...I can edit.
 
33jacket said:
yes u are right. The only thing about the quotes is i personally felt they didn't release too much, it is more of attitude (kinda like olearyish stuff released in the past)....if it is too sensitive...I can edit.
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I think you are right. Those quotes don't reveal too much. Too much would have been saying what was said to individual players.
 
refrigeratormover said:
33, I'm not questioning your motive of this post, but last Tuesday I spent a few hours with some coaches who told me things that was being said to the players but all of them asked me not to repeat it.

Again, you might might (probably) have better relationships down there because you are there a lot. But as someone who played we lived by the motto what's said in the lockerroom should stay in the lockerroom.
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And that includes all those sweet nothings whispered into Jim Kelly's ear after spending an hour in the tub together.:laugher:
 
beej67 said:
I believe O'Leary's was:

"Hold still while these two linebackers smear you all over the field so you know what being sacked feels like."
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O'Leary, not Col. Jessup was in fact responsible for ordering the Code Red.

You want answers?
I think I'm entitled.
You want answers?!
I want the truth!
You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Did you order the code red?

I did the job I had to do.

Did you order the code red?!

You're God damn right I did!
 
Two of my fraternity brothers were undergrad trainers under O'Leary (one was even a grad assistant to Tenuta for a while) and some of the stuff Big Bee said to players would have made a drunken sailor blush.
 
GTKyle said:
I think you are right. Those quotes don't reveal too much. Too much would have been saying what was said to individual players.
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I also did withold alot that he said. I only posted stuff I felt comfortable with.

We have a WINNA folks...and the kids bought right in.
 
Here is a true story from a kicker in the mid 90's who played for O'Leary.

Player: Coach O'Leary, I can't practice today. My knee is still hurting me.

GOL: If I jump over this desk and punch you in the face, which will hurt more, your knee or your face?

Player: I guess my face would Coach.

GOL: Good, then get dressed. You're practicing.
 
BarrelORum said:
Here is a true story from a kicker in the mid 90's who played for O'Leary.

Player: Coach O'Leary, I can't practice today. My knee is still hurting me.

GOL: If I jump over this desk and punch you in the face, which will hurt more, your knee or your face?

Player: I guess my face would Coach.

GOL: Good, then get dressed. You're practicing.
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That's funny, I heard a similar comment from a different player under O'Leary.

The player had injured his shoulder, and O'Leary called him into his office.

Player: "Coach, My shoulder hurts, I can barely move it."

O'Leary: "If I kicked you in the nuts, which would hurt worse?"

I forgot what the players response was, but the story was so similar, I had to pass it on. And, no, he wasn't a kicker.
 
Does anyone have a link to that big fiasco when O'Leary ordered those two LBs to deck that OL for missing his block? I fished around for a bit but couldn't find one.
 
BarrelORum said:
O'Leary, not Col. Jessup was in fact responsible for ordering the Code Red.

You want answers?
I think I'm entitled.
You want answers?!
I want the truth!
You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Did you order the code red?

I did the job I had to do.

Did you order the code red?!

You're God damn right I did!
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As an attorney, I live for a cross like that. Too bad that it happens in the movies far more frequently than in real life.
 
Yeah, only problem with that scene is the one before that, where TC talks for 4 to 5 minutes straight without asking a single question - all while on cross. A simple objection would have stolen his thunder, and the good Colonel would probably still be on that wall.
 
beej67 said:
Does anyone have a link to that big fiasco when O'Leary ordered those two LBs to deck that OL for missing his block? I fished around for a bit but couldn't find one.
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Search Dustin Vaitekunas.
 
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