We are a Service Academy.

justafan said:
We are Vandy.

Vandy yesterday:
Lost 21-38

Us yesterday:
Lost 20-38

Vandy record:
2-4

Our record after next Saturday:
2-4

Vandy record last season:
5-7

Our record last season:
5-7
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At least Vandy is in the SEC. We are getting the same results in the piss poor ACC.
 
The Machine said:
During the last 25 years, we were only successful when we ran a service academy offense with a service academy coach. How long will you wait before you accept that this is where we are?
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Ummmm 25 years ago GT had Joe Hamilton followed by Godsey running the O at QB. Last I checked, GT was successful not running the 3O during that time. Galley’s O was boring at times, but again GT was successful.
 
USCJacket said:
Ummmm 25 years ago GT had Joe Hamilton followed by Godsey running the O at QB. Last I checked, GT was successful not running the 3O during that time. Galley’s O was boring at times, but again GT was successful.
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People forget, but the multiple offense that Fridge called (which incorporated option principles) was prolific and scored a lot of points. It was fun to watch (for me even more fun than the 3O which was also fun to watch and a thing of beauty when humming).
 
We are not a service academy, but being a STEM school like them, we are more comparable to them than we are a large state school with liberal arts majors. Comparing us to Stanford or other elite private schools is also wrong.
 
savbandjacket said:
People forget, but the multiple offense that Fridge called (which incorporated option principles) was prolific and scored a lot of points. It was fun to watch (for me even more fun than the 3O which was also fun to watch and a thing of beauty when humming).
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Fridge was an offensive genius for two reasons - one is the oft-repeated reason you stated - his playbook was a 10-volume set. The other, mentioned less often, was his ability to immediately understand whatever the defense was doing and which play to call. I think the 2nd part is what set him apart from other top-shelf OCs - as well as the ability to impart that knowledge to his QB. Even back in 98/99, Fridge would have a team of graphics guys prepare screen shots of defensive alignments and he would flash them to Hamilton and Joe had to identify the D and which set of plays to draw from. Ralph expected a correct answer and gave Joe maybe one second to answer the question.
 
savbandjacket said:
On paper, Gailey probably had the best teams Tech has had in the modern era. Everywhere except for QB which was a glaring deficiency. If he had ever developed a QB, we could have been awesome.
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"if", "would have", "could have" ... the staples of the chanesque vocabulary,,,
 
BeeStorm said:
"if", "would have", "could have" ... the staples of the chanesque vocabulary,,,
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You have me mistaken for someone else. I wasn’t one of the big Chan defenders. His record against uga deserved the axe by itself.

But in terms of an on paper team, he recruited some incredible talent. We had a vicious defense and some of the best receivers that have played college ball. We had Hollings and Choice as RBs. On paper, those guys are in the top shelf of players we have had.
 
The Machine said:
During the last 25 years, we were only successful when we ran a service academy offense with a service academy coach. How long will you wait before you accept that this is where we are?
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O’Leary & Friedgen were in last 25 years and did not run service academy offenses. OLeary griped that we wanted to be MIT during the week and FSU on Saturdays, but he embraced the challenge.

The portal gives us a chance to pull underused talent from factory programs if we’re smart shoppers. Don’t have as much flexibility as schools with Leisure Studies degree programs, but Key & staff have done well thus far. The actual service academies surely have a lot less flexibility with the portal than we do.
 
savbandjacket said:
People forget, but the multiple offense that Fridge called (which incorporated option principles) was prolific and scored a lot of points. It was fun to watch (for me even more fun than the 3O which was also fun to watch and a thing of beauty when humming).
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When the Fridge and Hamilton were here, we had an OL that were not boys, would move people off the line for our running game and we could play smashmouth AND pass. Our OL is not Power 5 caliber right now when it comes to run blocking.
 
Here's the deal, we're not playing the same game that was played 25 years ago. From 1995 until 2005 you had a different team win the championship each year and representing every major conference (ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10. The world changed in 2006 where 2 things happened. 1, SEC rose to dominate winning 13 of 17. And the inly conference to break that domination with multiple teams was the ACC with Clemson and FSU. Also in my opinion this is when paying players began. I don't think it's a coincidence we had a period of 10 years with no repeat champions where scholarship limitations actually meant something, to a time where you have dynasties and repeat champions and really you go into a season where only the top 4-5 teams have a chance to win.

I think NIL does have the potential to change things. Again looking at coincidences I find it intriguing that the SEC is looking weaker this year and we are seeing other teams with big money (USC, ND, Ohio State, etc) now looking to present real competition to SEC domination.

So while I see a potential return to some level of parity, I'm not sure where GT fits in the future. I do not think the alumni/ fan base is going to be willing to compete financially with what we are seeing from Miami, Texas A&M, Tennessee and many other schools. I just don't think the fans and alumni are willing to pay millions to a 5 star QB to come here and that may be what we are competing with. If GT could engage more of corporate Atlanta, there isn't a lack of money within 5 miles of campus and they can compete with anyone.
 
rocky top buzz said:
Here's the deal, we're not playing the same game that was played 25 years ago. From 1995 until 2005 you had a different team win the championship each year and representing every major conference (ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10. The world changed in 2006 where 2 things happened.
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You cherry picked this and you’re still wrong. Nebraska won the MNC in 1994, 1995 and split in 1997. USC split the MNC in 2003 (would have wiped the floor with LSU) and won outright in 2004.

The game has finally changed for the better with NIL and the Portal from a parity perspective. 2024 and beyond is a guess with the official conference re-alignment in full force combined with the 12 team CFP.

ACC:
Stanford, SMU, Cal.

B1G:
USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington.

SEC:
Texas, Oklahoma.

B12:
Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Utah.

Hopefully as the dust settles with conference expansion along with adjustments to NIL and the Portal that the game continues to provide more opportunities for a lot more teams to get in the conversation for the CFP. The last almost decade has been the same rinse and repeat with Alabama, Clemson, tOSU, OU, LSU and newcomers Michigan and that team in Athens.
 
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