What does everyone think about the 'new' academic requirements

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What does everyone think about the \'new\' academic requirements

being tossed around. First GG mentioned it in a chat and several posters have aluded to the new standards. Per the lunch bunch recap, Butch Brooks said that 950 SAT, 2.5 GPA would be the 'guideline', whatever that means. I guess alot of if depends on if that is going to be the average or the floor. I have a hard time believing that we could be that stupid to make it the floor but I have been disapointed before by the AA. If true, I may change my handle to FireClough.
 
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I for one would have no problem with the SAT requirement. Georgia was ranked last in average SAT scores, and that average was still a 980. A 950 is well below the national average, and even below the average for the last place state. We are an above average school. We should have above average athletes.

The 2.5 GPA does worry me, though. While I think it's good for the athletes that they are required to make decent grades, I had a tough time keeping my 2.5 just with a part-time job at Best Buy(30 hours/week). Granted, my major might have been more difficult, and I didn't receive the help athletes do, but I do know that keeping a 2.5 at Tech is not an easy thing to do if you have other activities you're involved in. I'd say a 2.0 is more reasonable. If they have a C average, and don't fail anything, they should play.
 
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I think we need to have the same entrance requirements for the athletes that the rest of the ACC has. If we go above their requirements, it will really hurt our program.

I really hope they don't go through with this. In order to compete, we need to be on the same level with our competition.

I think this is a bad thing, if it happens.
 
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I think Tech has always strived to recruit athletes that are above average and have a good chance of success at TECH.
Coach O'leary did a good job of this.
There are plenty of high SAT regular students that flunk out of TECH. So you have to look beyond just the SAT scores and see the character of the athletes that are being recruited and make sure that they have what it takes to put in the efforts required whether athletically or academically.
 
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I'm all for academic standards, but I'm afraid I have to agree with Bugboy here. Duke has already stated they are lowering football standards. Has anyone noticed the kids that UVA is recruiting. One of the finest schools in the country accepted a partial qualifer this year and I believe has 3 recruits that didn't qualify who were placed at prep school so they can come in next year. With the other ACC schools picking it up on the recruiting trail we could be in big trouble. If UVA is bringing in those types of kids, who will the NCSUs, FSUs, and Clemsons bring in?
 
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Beeware,

I thought O'Leary brought in some good kids, but we have a lot of players on our team that weren't 950 kids, a lot of very good players.
 
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Based on the averages the past few years, I would guess that 30% - 40% of our current players would not be here is the 950 is a hard and fast rule. If true, this would be absolutely devastating to our revenue sports. Surely those eggheads on the Hill can see that. GT is not football U but I would think that some folks jobs would be in jeopordy over a decision like this.
 
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BW,thanks for a couple of nice, reasonable posts. RF once told me he would rather take a kid w/ character and lesser athletic ability and develop him than a kid w/ greater athletic skills and less character.

THWG!! FEAR THE JACKETS!

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goldeagle - where is the relationship between character and standerdized test scores. Did Joe Hamilton have character? I guess Duke's current team is full of character, so much character that they have 4 - 6K fans at every home game, win or lose.
 
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I'll have to see this new standard before I believe it. Surely, we're not doing this. It really doesn't make sense the more I think about it. Any standards above and beyond the general ACC standards would hurt us.
 
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It will be interesting to see if this new standard is the real deal how long it will take for the money to stop rolling in over at the GTAA.

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Y'all don't need to get too worked up about this.
As Butch Brooks said, the 2.5 GPA and 950 SAT is a guideline....not a firm and fast rule.
The deal is they have to be very sure if someone doesn't meet this guideline, that they have the character and desire to come to TECH and get the job done, before the exception to the guideline can be granted. Like I said earlier, Coach O'leary was a very good judge of this.
 
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bugboy - you are right, I should probably calm down. The magnitude of the negative impact of implementing a policy like this is so large that this cannot be true - even the eggheads on the hill can't be that out of touch with reality. On a side note, I am not even sure that this would help our grad rates that much. Alot of players transfer for more playing time or give up football due to injury. I know a lot of folks that quit Tech because they didn't like the harsh academic environment, lack of majors, lack of women, and a variety of other factors - and many had SAT scores well above the Tech average.
 
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Talked personally to one of the directors of admissions at Tech last night at a Tech club meeting about this matter. Deborah Smith said that there are no changes in the works for SA's and that only a change at the NCAA level would effect their current guidelines (which have been unchanged for several years, she stated).
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If those "guidelines" hold, Tech can just about forget about regular top 25 residency.Wake,Duke, and Tech can start their own Fball conference.
 
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Just remeber that Tech takes the highest scores on your SAT, regardless of how many time you take it.

We have numerous students here that take it once and focus completely on the math and score well. They'll take it again and focus entirely on the verbal part, and again score well, thus having a very high SAT score strung out over multiple tests.

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Hey culb, I think that the 2.5 is the HS GPA, not at Tech. I am like you though concerning the SAT not being a problem. Ramblin Recks are smarter than other folks. But carrying a 2.5 at GT is no snap.
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Goldmember the relationship between character and standardized test scores is that it takes character to study when you are bone-ass tired from working out/practicing and want to succeed as a student-athlete at GT; even with the tutorial program the AA provides and access to unofficial 'test files' a kid still has to suck it up and study. BW even cited the issue of character in his post ! To further answer your query JH had an abundance of character and demonstrated it frequently along w/ his athletic ability.

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Academics has never hurt anybody!

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Originally posted by bobby dodds ghost:
Talked personally to one of the directors of admissions at Tech last night at a Tech club meeting about this matter. Deborah Smith said...
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Thanks BDG, thats the most informative post I've seen about the matter either here or on the hive.
 
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