what was the best bowl O'leary took GT to?....

cyclejacket said:
To be fair, Gailey also has two of the most lopsided victories in our bowl history as well.
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Very true, but most well coached BCS conference teams don't get the opportunity to play Tulsa and Syracuse in "bowl" games. :laugher:
 
I am confident that if either the OC or DC were not getting the job done that Tenuta would provide the proper motivation for them to improve and if that failed he would take the initative to replace them with someone better.
 
for the record I was IN THE RAIN last saturday and no one is more disappointed with this team's collapse than me.

On my job I do have to rationalize behavior for a living and just a couple of thoughts.

Reggie's job has been saved b/c our D has been SO STRONG.

The fact that Reggie/Offense has played poor BUT STILL IN THE GAME has made it difficult for CG to pull the trigger on the backup IMO.

If when the game was tied CG had put TB in and he had thrown an int for TD then CG would have looked like the biggest idiot on the face of the earth.

Only the Clemson game has gotten out of hand and all the other games could have easily been wins, if we would have recovered some of the fumbles or gotten an INT.

Costly turnovers have been a huge reason we have lost. Reggie's poor play could have been overcome against Ugag and Wake w/ better turnover results.

For the record I would have pulled Reggie but I recognize that CG is is someone who has managed teams at the HIGHEST LEVEL and it would be idiotic for ANYONE on this board to think their experience or resume is even close to CG.

It has been stated here that if CG were to leave today he would have NO LESS THAN FOUR NFL OC jobs waiting on him.

Here ARE SOME FACTS. Our recruiting has been the worst it has been in a few years yet we have managed to make some gains.

Now recruiting is improving. If we had a strong QB it is reasonable to state that we could be top 5 maybe even playing in BCSCG.

Our D is great. We have a solid running game. Punting is fantastic. Recruiting may be the best it has ever been.

To say we are not headed in the right direction is idiotic.

Is there anybody here that would trade CG for Fridge? Did you watch that pasting Wake put on MD in their house.

If we can get the right QB in here we will achieve all our goals.

I know all the it is coach's job to get the right QB.

Schools w/ QB problems

Clemson
Miami
F$U
MD
GT

Except for BC and Wake every school is unhappy w/ their QB play.
 
JTS said:
I am confident that if either the OC or DC were not getting the job done that Tenuta would provide the proper motivation for them to improve and if that failed he would take the initative to replace them with someone better.
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And your basis for this statement is? If that were an obvious characteristic someone else would have already recognized that talent and he would be a head coach. All you are doing is poisoning your own mind over something that won't happen, at least not before Dec 2007.
 
Well thank goodness. You are 'confident' he would address it. That settles it Fire Gailey!

And exactly what ranking in the ACC did Tenuta's defense rank oh 'confident' one? And in a 12 team league, where would you place the line for mediocre?
 
law_bee said:
for the record I was IN THE RAIN last saturday and no one is more disappointed with this team's collapse than me.

On my job I do have to rationalize behavior for a living and just a couple of thoughts.

Reggie's job has been saved b/c our D has been SO STRONG.

The fact that Reggie/Offense has played poor BUT STILL IN THE GAME has made it difficult for CG to pull the trigger on the backup IMO.

If when the game was tied CG had put TB in and he had thrown an int for TD then CG would have looked like the biggest idiot on the face of the earth.

Only the Clemson game has gotten out of hand and all the other games could have easily been wins, if we would have recovered some of the fumbles or gotten an INT.

Costly turnovers have been a huge reason we have lost. Reggie's poor play could have been overcome against Ugag and Wake w/ better turnover results.

For the record I would have pulled Reggie but I recognize that CG is is someone who has managed teams at the HIGHEST LEVEL and it would be idiotic for ANYONE on this board to think their experience or resume is even close to CG.

It has been stated here that if CG were to leave today he would have NO LESS THAN FOUR NFL OC jobs waiting on him.

Here ARE SOME FACTS. Our recruiting has been the worst it has been in a few years yet we have managed to make some gains.

Now recruiting is improving. If we had a strong QB it is reasonable to state that we could be top 5 maybe even playing in BCSCG.

Our D is great. We have a solid running game. Punting is fantastic. Recruiting may be the best it has ever been.

To say we are not headed in the right direction is idiotic.

Is there anybody here that would trade CG for Fridge? Did you watch that pasting Wake put on MD in their house.

If we can get the right QB in here we will achieve all our goals.

I know all the it is coach's job to get the right QB.

Schools w/ QB problems

Clemson
Miami
F$U
MD
GT

Except for BC and Wake every school is unhappy w/ their QB play.
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Looks like this one hit the nail squarely on the head.
 
So the new company line is that our defense is average, GTCrew? Let's take a poll see how many people agree with you.

cyclejacket, I don't understand how you or anyone else could possibly be unaware of differences in personality and management style between Gailey and Tenuta.

Lawbee, funny how all the teams that you listed except Clemson (who led the conference in scoring) have fired their OC in the past year. Also, it's hard for a game to get out of hand when your defense is only giving up 14-16 points a game.
 
Let's look at how teams scored on us:

Notre Dame

- Scored 2 legit TDs on the defense.

Samford

- Scored a FG after a kickoff return to the GT 46.
- Scored a FG after an interception returned to the GT 27
- The GT defense also returned 2 INTs for TDs

Troy

- Pretty much all legit scoring

Virginia

- Only score (TD) of the day was setup by a fumble on the GT 29

Virginia Tech

- All legit scoring except FG setup by an interception at the GT 28
- GT Defense also returned a fumble for TD

Maryland

- Allowed 3 legit FGs
- Special teams allowed kickoff returned for TD
- Only TD allowed by defense setup by fumble at GT 8 yard line

Clemson

- All legit scoring except FG setup by punt return to GT 40

Miami

- Offensive fumble returned for TD by Miami
- 2 other scores setup by kick returns to mid-field

NC State

- FG setup by punt return to GT 45
- Interception returned for TD
- Kickoff returned for TD
- FG setup by Interception returned to GT 27

UNC

- Did not allow any points

Duke

- Game was over at halftime, Duke scored 2 TDs in garbage time

Georgia

- Offensive fumble returned for TD
- 1 legit TD

Wake Forest

- All legit scoring


So about 67 of the 209 points allowed or over 5 points per game resulted from poor offense and special teams play.
 
pocket_watch said:
Very true, but most well coached BCS conference teams don't get the opportunity to play Tulsa and Syracuse in "bowl" games. :laugher:
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Doesn't he also hold the record for biggets bowl loss in GT history, a la the Mighty Utah?
And biggest losses in series history for UGA, Duke and Clemson?
Yeah...
And by the way, have you read any sports articles regarding Gailey lately? I've rarely seen any coach torn to shreds as much as Gailey has been. Yes, it may seem insane to fire a coach after a conference championship, but there are extenuating circumstances:
The ACC Is HORRIBLE!

SEC Runner up : Sugar Bowl
ACC Runner up: UNRANKED!

Once again we are UNRANKED!!!! i.e. nationally insignificant.

Gailey is horrible, some of you either know next to nothing about football, are UGA fans in disguise, are yourelves models of mediocrity or are blinded to reality by your loyalty to all things "Tech"

This years (and last years) team is very talented. If we couldn't win the ACC this year against an overmatched Wake or beat the weakest UGA team in recent memory can you honestly tell me that you think Chan will ever do either?

ACC's leading rusher + ACC's leading WR = 0 TD's ?!
 
MaconGTfan said:
Doesn't he also hold the record for biggets bowl loss in GT history, a la the Mighty Utah?
And biggest losses in series history for UGA, Duke and Clemson?
Yeah...
And by the way, have you read any sports articles regarding Gailey lately? I've rarely seen any coach torn to shreds as much as Gailey has been. Yes, it may seem insane to fire a coach after a conference championship, but there are extenuating circumstances:
The ACC Is HORRIBLE!

SEC Runner up : Sugar Bowl
ACC Runner up: UNRANKED!

Once again we are UNRANKED!!!! i.e. nationally insignificant.

Gailey is horrible, some of you either know next to nothing about football, are UGA fans in disguise, are yourelves models of mediocrity or are blinded to reality by your loyalty to all things "Tech"

This years (and last years) team is very talented. If we couldn't win the ACC this year against an overmatched Wake or beat the weakest UGA team in recent memory can you honestly tell me that you think Chan will ever do either?

ACC's leading rusher + ACC's leading WR = 0 TD's ?!
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I agree 100% mabye going 0-10 agianst UGA will change things for some people.
 
Uh, pw, Syracuse was the Big East Co-champ the year we played them. Nothing at all wrong with lining up against them in a bowl. If you're going to slam Gailey be my guest. But at least get your facts straight.
 
Syracuse was not a good team that year. They lost to Temple and fired their HC at the end of the season.
 
And your point it what JTS? Whether they were good or not they were Big East co champ. The statement was that good coaches didn't end up playing teams like Syracuse. My question remains...is playing the Big East co champ a bad thing?

Also on another note. If we did promote Tenuta and we won 7 games next year what would you do then?
 
Gailey is horrible, some of you either know next to nothing about football, are UGA fans in disguise, are yourelves models of mediocrity or are blinded to reality by your loyalty to all things "Tech"

This years (and last years) team is very talented. If we couldn't win the ACC this year against an overmatched Wake or beat the weakest UGA team in recent memory can you honestly tell me that you think Chan will ever do either?
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First you state that Gailey is horrible (sic) and then you go on to state how talented we are....talented despite the fact that our recruiting has ranked dead last in the ACC for 3 years running.

Either Gailey has done an excellent job in evaluating talent or in coaching them up...something a 'horrible' coach wouldn't be able to do.

Quite frankly, the whole problem has to do with circumstances that lead to a derth of talent at the QB spot. And yes, that's his responsiblity as well, but the way things came together we got stuck with a very experienced QB who was also very limited in his capabilities.

We now have considerable talent at the QB spot (RS Ingram and Threat coming in next semester) along with some others. If we don't have much improved QB play despite the lack of experience, then some adjustments have to be made, but I think the coaches have made just about the most of a poor situation.

Accusing people here of 'being dogs' and 'not knowing football' and 'being models of medioricity' and 'blinded by loyality' in the same sentence that you call Gailey 'horrible' shows some pretty significant lack of knowledge on your part.
 
Nice post GEETEELEE, but you will never get simple logic through some of the thick skulls around here.

Note JTS ducking my question. WHAT RANK WAS TENUTA'S D is not a trick question. A simple numerical answer between 1 and 12 is what we are looking for.

All I'm asking is a few simple follow-up questions. Please convince me logically that firing Gailey is a 'no brainer'. Right now the mere suggestion looks insane. The fact that there are several advocating it makes it look no less insane.
 
Crew another thing people don't have the sense to see is that CJT has flourished as the DC at TECH, more than he had done at any other school because Chan Gailey gave him the opportunity to do so without interference something GOL was not willing to do before Ralph and after he left.
So when we make CJT HC whose gonna be DC? can't be both. Can He?
 
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It's not the wins or losses. It's the string non-sensical decisions and coaching blunders. It's the constant feeling that we are not getting the most out of what we have. If 5 years of it, can't convince you of it nothing will.

Is there any team that has had as good a defense as ours over the past 5 years and had less to show for it?
 
I don't know JTS. How good was our D this year? Obviously it was top 10 right? Top 20? At least tops in the ACC? Top quarter?
 
But JTS, we all know our recruits aren't any good. Isn't that what everyone had been hammering on the last 4 years? So how is it we now aren't getting what we should out of our talent if we don't have any?

The way this season has ended is extremely disappointing. But where was all this venom when we were 9-2? He's the same coach, the same OC, the same QB. If Reggie had completed just one of those long passes to WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS in the ugag and Wake games would everything suddenly be different?
 
GTCrew,

Sorry I wasn't specific enough for you. Our defense ranked 6th in the ACC. I can only assume by your question that you are implying that our defense is middle of the pack because it ranked sixth in conference, but that completely ignores the fact that our defense was ranked in the top 20 nationally. It also ignores the staggering number of points (almost a third of the total allowed for the season) our offense and special teams laid at the feet of our opponents. We only allowed 16.85 ppg which is the fewest ppg allowed by a GT defense since our national championship squad which gave up 15.50 ppg.

How much better did you expect the defense to be exactly?
 
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