What we know now:

beej67

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We know a lot more than we did before:

We now know with 100% certainty that we don't need a new OC, that Nix is completely capable of putting together a high powered offensive game plan, and that the problems with the offense so far this year are 100% on the head of Reggie Ball.

We now know with 90% certainty that Taylor Bennett will be our starting QB next year, and that we'll be able to redshirt one or both of our incoming QB recruits. That's good, IMO.

Furthermore, we know that Bennett will be a good quarterback, and may end up being a great quarterback.

We can be reasonably sure that we'll keep Tenuta this year, after his D gave up an 18 point lead, twice, on national TV.

We know that if CJ stays, we will be obvious favorites to win the ACC next year. Even if he doesn't, we look to be as good a team next year as this year. We also know TB showed CJ that his stock isn't going to go down by staying, which is a glimmer of hope.

We know we still need a kickoff guy.

What we don't know is pretty obvious - why Reggie started in the first place - but there's enough anecdotal evidence for why. TB's previous sub 50 completion percentage, Reggie elected captain, Reggie senior, Reggie physically superior. Whatever. Yes, we all would have benched him earlier, (me too) but we're just fans, not in practice, and don't know everything.


My assessment of the game:

TB was everything Reggie wasn't, and the future for him looks bright. Our offensive gameplan was awesome, nigh perfect. We never abandoned the run. We never abandoned CJ. We never forgot about Grant. We threw the ball to essentially every position, at every spot on the field, and we ran the ball superbly. Backs out of the backfield, backs in the slot, TEs over the middle, backs on delayed releases, WRs on screens, WRs down the field, TEs down the field, you name it, we completed a pass there. Anyone who complains about Nix after the Gator Bowl needs to be shot in the face.

Our D Line got manhandled all game, by a vastly superior O Line. Our linebackers were not prepared to play assignment defense to neutralize the option, because Tenuta relied on defensive ends to assume part of the role, and they got beat head-to-head by superior players. As such, we were only in a position to make the tackle about half the time, and when you give up more than 10 yards on 50% of the other team's running plays, you're pretty well screwed. We blitzed ourselves out of the game, just like we did vs Clemson.

That said, we still easily could have won, on the backs of good offensive playcalling and gutsy HC decisions, if it weren't for a few screwy plays. Them recovering the squib was screwy, and that sleeper-play touchdown thing was screwy. Take those two away and it's our game. Hell, take the clipping call on 3rd down away and it's probably our game.

At the time, I thought the fieldgoal attempt was really really dumb, but seeing how our D played afterwards, I can understand wanting to try and make the 3 points with the wind at our back. It was only short a few feet, and the D looked like total crap all game, so I can see why Chan wouldn't have faith in it. So I give Gailey the nod over me, and yall, on that. I thought the onsides kick to start the second half (even with a lead) was gutsy, well timed, and worked, and everyone must give Gailey the nod on that.
 
Curious yellowbrichies, but which part of beej's post do you disagree with. You can't possibly disagree with all of it, unless you simply didn't watch the game and just like to complain about losses.

Personally, I'd still take a new OC to tell you the truth. I think Nix did okay, but what I don't know is whether we changed up based on what we already had in the offense, or whether Nix isn't ready to design and implement a sophisticated passing offense. While we did okay yesterday, it wasn't what I'd like to see going forward.

Taylor gave himself the inside track but the competition isn't over yet.

Our DL has to get stronger...period. Our LBs would be better imo with Wheeler on the outside and a bigger MLB. Our DBs have to learn how to tackle.

I think we'll be just as good next year as this even if CJ leaves. Whoever is QB will be an improvement over Reggie.

We do need a new kickoff guy and maybe an entire new ko coverage and return team.

What killed us was two TDs in the span of about 2 minutes. We didn't recover until after the 3rd and then made too many mistakes on offense to get back in the lead. Our D was manhandled.
 
beej67 said:
We threw the ball to essentially every position, at every spot on the field, and we ran the ball superbly. Backs out of the backfield, backs in the slot, TEs over the middle, backs on delayed releases, WRs on screens, WRs down the field, TEs down the field, you name it, we completed a pass there.
That's one of the things I loved to see the most, spreading the ball around and FINALLY using the tight ends in the passing game. I can't believe that was Matthews' first catch of the year (I think). Of course Calvin was the focus, but that's a good thing too.
 
Contrary To Some Others Here .....

I think WR is going to be a weakness next year. That chnages is Calvin returns, which I absolutely don't expect to happen. James Johnson was the only receiver who stood out otherwise this year. But as our main target opponents could definitley take him out of the game in ways they couldn't with Calvin. Smith had a few bright moments and supposed the Thomas kid looked good on the scout team. But overall it looks awfully thin out there at WR next year. The good news is that with our offensively line even more experienced we should have a great running game with Choice returning and some promising youngsters coming along. That presupposes finding a TE who can block as well as Matthews.
 
Re: Contrary To Some Others Here .....

I'm not really worried about WR. We've got some kids coming in who can play if needs be, and freshmen WRs can contribute more easily than any other position most times. But DThomas is supposed to be a real player and JJ will be back. But as another said, if we use receivers other than just the WRs next year it will open up everything more.
 
We know now what we thought throughout the season - that RB was really holding back the offense.
My main complaint was that with Reggie we ran poor routes because he did not lead receivers well. We either threw to a spot where receivers waited for the ball or threw it far and hoped CJ would battle for it.

TB was so much better leading Calvin (one of the TD's was admittedly more of a jump ball, but the other catches were not). As a result, Calvin had his best game. We also threw 3 passes to TE's and a nice pass or two to Grant. All year long those TE's had 4 catches between them before catching 3 yesterday.

If Bennet is QB, or any other candidates for that matter, we should get back to running better routes, sending more receivers into patterns, and spreading the ball around.
 
What we know now:

1. Nix can put a game plan together given four weeks to get ready for one of the worst pass defenses in the nation.

2. We also know that we still do not adjust to the half adjustments of the other team. If you read the comments from West Virginia the focused on the running game to make TB pass.

3. We know Taylor Bennett can execute a game plan against said defense.

4. We know Taylor Bennett has a strong arm and is more mobile than thought.

5. We know that our defense can be had when a team is motivated and has time to prepare for it.

What we don't know:

1. Can Nix put together a complete package that averages 30+ points a game ala Ralph every game week in week out?

2. Can Taylor Bennett perform the same when the defenses are better designed, coached and have dramatically more speed like: Miami, Clemson, Va Tech and UGA? and possbily without Calvin Johnson?


I personally think that BOB was a better offensive coordinator with talent that Nix ever will be. That being said I would love for Rad to force Gailey to hire a proven big money guy like JT is for the defense for the offense.

I think we will need to wait and see the spring. I beleive Booker and Garner will suprise us now there is no reason to knock the backup QB's for a while.
 
1. Can Nix put together a complete package that averages 30+ points a game ala Ralph every game week in week out?

Just responding to this one, because I can guarantee it won't happen. Neither Nix nor anybody else, Ralph, Norm Chow, Cutliffe, whoever, could do that against the defenses the ACC will probably have next year. It won't be the ACC defenses of 1998.

Just saying, so you won't put your expectations too high.
 
I pride myself on being an optimist, but I'm still not totally sold on Nix. We gave up on the running game in the fourth quarter (much like the Wake game), and I think it may have cost us the game.

Great points, though. Very thorough and inciteful post.
 
Yellowbritches? Yeah, it's official. you're an idiot.

gtmg? GREAT POST. That's good stuff there, that's not easy to argue against, even though I'm on the other side of the fence.

I personally think that BOB was a better offensive coordinator with talent that Nix ever will be.

Yeah, no. There's very little evidence to support that. O'Brian was astoundingly successful at calling 5 yard plays when we needed 7 yards.

I beleive Booker and Garner will suprise us

I think Garner is transferring, which is why we can take more than our allotment this year. Garner looked like ass when he had his few snaps this year.
 
gtmg said:
What we know now:

1. Nix can put a game plan together given four weeks to get ready for one of the worst pass defenses in the nation.

2. We also know that we still do not adjust to the half adjustments of the other team. If you read the comments from West Virginia the focused on the running game to make TB pass.

3. We know Taylor Bennett can execute a game plan against said defense.

4. We know Taylor Bennett has a strong arm and is more mobile than thought.

5. We know that our defense can be had when a team is motivated and has time to prepare for it.

What we don't know:

1. Can Nix put together a complete package that averages 30+ points a game ala Ralph every game week in week out?

2. Can Taylor Bennett perform the same when the defenses are better designed, coached and have dramatically more speed like: Miami, Clemson, Va Tech and UGA? and possbily without Calvin Johnson?


I personally think that BOB was a better offensive coordinator with talent that Nix ever will be. That being said I would love for Rad to force Gailey to hire a proven big money guy like JT is for the defense for the offense.

I think we will need to wait and see the spring. I beleive Booker and Garner will suprise us now there is no reason to knock the backup QB's for a while.
You're underestimating the WVU pass D. Wake has a pretty poor pass defense as well and we couldn't do crap against them with Ball in there.

WFU gave up 207.8 pass ypg playing in the conference of dismal QBs.
WVU gave up 236.4 pass ypg playing in the more offense friendly big east mainly because the opposition was forced to air it out quickly. WVU was regularly up by 3+ TDs at the half.
 
For those worried about wideouts next year, with or without Calvin, watch out for Greg Smith. I like how he played this year and I remember one game where he dragged 3 or 4 guys and extra 10 yards and got a first down. JJ of course, and a couple freshmen will need to step up.
 
gtfan1147 said:
For those worried about wideouts next year, with or without Calvin, watch out for Greg Smith. I like how he played this year and I remember one game where he dragged 3 or 4 guys and extra 10 yards and got a first down. JJ of course, and a couple freshmen will need to step up.

I completely agree. Greg Smith is going to be a great WR. Watching him in some practices and games has sold me on him.
 
beej67,

I concur, yellowbritchies is an idiot. He posts on Buzzoff where his (or her) agenda is accepted more readily.
 
beej67 said:
We know a lot more than we did before:

We now know with 100% certainty that we don't need a new OC, that Nix is completely capable of putting together a high powered offensive game plan, and that the problems with the offense so far this year are 100% on the head of Reggie Ball.

We now know with 90% certainty that Taylor Bennett will be our starting QB next year, and that we'll be able to redshirt one or both of our incoming QB recruits. That's good, IMO.

Furthermore, we know that Bennett will be a good quarterback, and may end up being a great quarterback.

We can be reasonably sure that we'll keep Tenuta this year, after his D gave up an 18 point lead, twice, on national TV.

We know that if CJ stays, we will be obvious favorites to win the ACC next year. Even if he doesn't, we look to be as good a team next year as this year. We also know TB showed CJ that his stock isn't going to go down by staying, which is a glimmer of hope.

We know we still need a kickoff guy.

What we don't know is pretty obvious - why Reggie started in the first place - but there's enough anecdotal evidence for why. TB's previous sub 50 completion percentage, Reggie elected captain, Reggie senior, Reggie physically superior. Whatever. Yes, we all would have benched him earlier, (me too) but we're just fans, not in practice, and don't know everything.


My assessment of the game:

TB was everything Reggie wasn't, and the future for him looks bright. Our offensive gameplan was awesome, nigh perfect. We never abandoned the run. We never abandoned CJ. We never forgot about Grant. We threw the ball to essentially every position, at every spot on the field, and we ran the ball superbly. Backs out of the backfield, backs in the slot, TEs over the middle, backs on delayed releases, WRs on screens, WRs down the field, TEs down the field, you name it, we completed a pass there. Anyone who complains about Nix after the Gator Bowl needs to be shot in the face.

Our D Line got manhandled all game, by a vastly superior O Line. Our linebackers were not prepared to play assignment defense to neutralize the option, because Tenuta relied on defensive ends to assume part of the role, and they got beat head-to-head by superior players. As such, we were only in a position to make the tackle about half the time, and when you give up more than 10 yards on 50% of the other team's running plays, you're pretty well screwed. We blitzed ourselves out of the game, just like we did vs Clemson.

That said, we still easily could have won, on the backs of good offensive playcalling and gutsy HC decisions, if it weren't for a few screwy plays. Them recovering the squib was screwy, and that sleeper-play touchdown thing was screwy. Take those two away and it's our game. Hell, take the clipping call on 3rd down away and it's probably our game.

At the time, I thought the fieldgoal attempt was really really dumb, but seeing how our D played afterwards, I can understand wanting to try and make the 3 points with the wind at our back. It was only short a few feet, and the D looked like total crap all game, so I can see why Chan wouldn't have faith in it. So I give Gailey the nod over me, and yall, on that. I thought the onsides kick to start the second half (even with a lead) was gutsy, well timed, and worked, and everyone must give Gailey the nod on that.

I'm not sure how you can be 100% or 90% sure from the results of one game. That's not to say I don't agree with your points, but let's just say that the jury is still out and we shouldn't rush towards conclusions without more evidence.

Otherwise, I find myself agreeing in principal with much of what you said, although I might have said it a little bit differently. ;)
 
Re: Contrary To Some Others Here .....

cyclejacket said:
I think WR is going to be a weakness next year. That chnages is Calvin returns, which I absolutely don't expect to happen. James Johnson was the only receiver who stood out otherwise this year.

James Johnson is a concern. Late in the season he had to many dropped passes, seemed to shy away from contact. I hope I am wrong. His obvious athleticism aside, Calvin never seems to get "gator arms" on plays where he knows he is going to take a hit.
 
Re: Contrary To Some Others Here .....

If he doesn't continue to improve he will be passed up by guys who do. With CJ gone, the difference between #1 and #4 is now very small.
 
without CJ our Wrs and QB will find life MUCH more difficult next yr,in fact Choice will also without a safety cheating to cover CJ,maybe the O line will overcome that
btw-we do know that CG is slow- slow to change playcallers,slow to change recruiters,and slow to change QBs,see the pattern?
 
Taylor Bennett was 10-13-0 for 230 yards in the first half.

Taylor Bennett was 9-16-1 for 96 yards in the second half. Take away the first drive where he forced a 32 yard completion into triple coverage to set up a score, and he was 8-14-1 for 64 yards in the second half. Anyone other than Calvin, and it would be 8-16-2 for 64 yards in the second half.

Now, did Bennett become very average from drinking Gatorade at halftime, or did WVU make coverage changes that completely confused our offensive staff?

Saying that Nix 100% proved that we do not need a new OC is a most curious statement. I sometimes wonder what people are watching.
 
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