When you know your a tech fan! By 33jacket

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"33jacket" from bbuzzoff.com

where internet message board participants hate each other and can't agree on a board to use


where boards challenge boards

where if you are a hiver you are an overzealous fan that refuses to see reality and everyone is an all american
if you are a bbuzzoff you are negative and hate the world
if you are a stingtalker you were rejected by bbuzzoff and the hive
if you are a machiner you didn't know this was a cutthroat business LOL

oh gosh...all b/c we supposedly like tech

I have never seen a challenge via the internet boards over internet radio vs internet fonts and ex players

its like getting a priest, a rabi, a sheik and a budhist monk to agree on a religion

This is about as fun as it gets...honestly I am STILL laughing over here.....we have reached a pinnacle folks...
 
Doesn't this post deserve the traditional Rodney King "can't we all just get along"

:D
 
golftango18yankeejuliet said:
A Stingtalker, a Hiver, and a Buzzoffer walk into a bar ....
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The Hiver claims recruiting restrictions prohibit us from recruiting shorter guys...

The Stingtalker accurately analyzes how to avoid the bar the next time around...

The Buzzoffer (we he comes to) realizes that a Hiver and a Stingtalker are holding each end of the bar...
 
golftango18yankeejuliet said:
A Stingtalker, a Hiver, and a Buzzoffer walk into a bar ....
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...after a "friendly" game of touch football.
Stingtalker: so, who won?
Hiver: I dunno, I wasn't keeping score. Isn't it more fun when everyones happy all the time?
Buzzoffer: I dunno who won, but whomever our coach was needs to be fired!
 
This raises a question that has bothered me for some time about the differences in the 3 websites.

I consider myself to be a positive person and I look for the positives in others unless or until it is proven that they have none. I graduated from Tech and have an analytical nature, but I am not an engineer. I lead/manage people by helping them grow and develop, not through intimidation and harassment. You have to be tough but fair when results do not meet expectations. I liked Gailey, and thought he was a good man and a good coach. My fault with him is his thinking that he could treat Tech like a pro program and not effectively manage the differences between a college athletic department and an NFL organization. I think we are a better OVERALL (academics, ethics, and direction) football program from his tenure than we were before. Having said all that, I love the fact that we have Paul Johnson as our coach. I have personally met several assistants and the head coach himself and I am extremely excited about Tech's future.

I say all this to give you an understanding of my perspective. Now to my question:

How can I, as a 15-year season ticket holder in basketball and football, not get it? How can I not understand the vitriol? The hatred? The condemnation? Whatever the reason, I just DON'T GET IT! Do I settle for mediocrity? Hell no! Anyone who tells me to my face that I do might just lose a few teeth. But I just can't understand how supposedly intelligent people can look at the same data that I look at and come up with what I perceive to be completely biased results, results not even neutral in their presentation.

When I see a website admin telling a former player that he is lying or promoting half-truths about a former coach it boils my blood.
"If you are going to "tell it like it is" then your opinion will carry a lot of weight. If you are going to be mostly a cheerleader then tell us now so we can measure you for a dress."
Yeah, that's promoting a neutral environment to share opinions. /sarcasm off

I personally would like to hear both the positive and the negative information about a situation because I think that is how we make informed decisions, but to discount the positive because it goes against your angle, or because you just don't want anything to get in the way of your hate party is stupid and pitiful. I have spoken with athletes, administrators, parents of athletes and coaches and I have yet to hear anything but optimism when talking about Tech's athletics. That was true under Chan Gailey and it is true today.
 
BirdNBee said:
This raises a question that has bothered me for some time about the differences in the 3 websites.

I consider myself to be a positive person and I look for the positives in others unless or until it is proven that they have none. I graduated from Tech and have an analytical nature, but I am not an engineer. I lead/manage people by helping them grow and develop, not through intimidation and harassment. You have to be tough but fair when results do not meet expectations. I liked Gailey, and thought he was a good man and a good coach. My fault with him is his thinking that he could treat Tech like a pro program and not effectively manage the differences between a college athletic department and an NFL organization. I think we are a better OVERALL (academics, ethics, and direction) football program from his tenure than we were before. Having said all that, I love the fact that we have Paul Johnson as our coach. I have personally met several assistants and the head coach himself and I am extremely excited about Tech's future.

I say all this to give you an understanding of my perspective. Now to my question:

How can I, as a 15-year season ticket holder in basketball and football, not get it? How can I not understand the vitriol? The hatred? The condemnation? Whatever the reason, I just DON'T GET IT! Do I settle for mediocrity? Hell no! Anyone who tells me to my face that I do might just lose a few teeth. But I just can't understand how supposedly intelligent people can look at the same data that I look at and come up with what I perceive to be completely biased results, results not even neutral in their presentation.

When I see a website admin telling a former player that he is lying or promoting half-truths about a former coach it boils my blood.
"If you are going to "tell it like it is" then your opinion will carry a lot of weight. If you are going to be mostly a cheerleader then tell us now so we can measure you for a dress."
Yeah, that's promoting a neutral environment to share opinions. /sarcasm off

I personally would like to hear both the positive and the negative information about a situation because I think that is how we make informed decisions, but to discount the positive because it goes against your angle, or because you just don't want anything to get in the way of your hate party is stupid and pitiful. I have spoken with athletes, administrators, parents of athletes and coaches and I have yet to hear anything but optimism when talking about Tech's athletics. That was true under Chan Gailey and it is true today.
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I probably am percieved as a negative poster on most boards-when I feel myself to be a most positive fan of Georgia Tech, athletic teams and every thing else Tech.
My problem with the pollyanna outlook that I see on a lot of comments is the attitude that Georgia Tech cannot compete --AND SHOULD NOT TRY TO COMPETE-without compromising our core principle committment to education and student athletes. That bothers me because I feel it isn't true. Too many schools --Georgia Tech included--have obtained unrivaled, sustained success and maintained a principled committement to "playing by the rules" and educating young men at the highest level. Too many-not necessarily you--but too many Tech fans are content to have moderate success on the playing field as long as the reputation and standards of the institute are maintained. I know we can have both and would like to see us at least try to do that. In the last 20 years we have a MNC in football, two final fours in basketball, and exemplary achievements in several other sports. I don't think we cheated or compromised the curriculum to get those. Georgia Tech manufactures EXCELLENCE and we ought to make every attempt to maintain that tradition in all aspects---education, athletics, research etc.
Every contributor to boards like these is a passionate supporter of some position. It's a pretty good forum to vent your passion and opinion without bloodshed. I expect to see nothing but controversy and disagreement every time I log on.
 
Yukon,
I agree with you that Tech should be able to compete in both academics and athletics and have a great deal of success.

Where I think we diverge somewhat (based on some of your previous comments, but don't ask me to find specifics) is that I do not tend to view Tech athletics' success as a straight win-loss scenario. I look at where the Institute is now vs. where it was X yrs ago. I look at record, graduation rates (ours, not the NCAA's), on field performance, off-field performance, etc.) I try to take all of that into consideration when looking at the state of our program.

Nor do I think we as an Institute and a University have the resources that make it easy for us to be an Athletic powerhouse year end, year out. I think there are various reasons for this, many of which can be laid at the feet of us, the fans. First, when you see an unusally large endowment to Tech, it is almost always given to the academic side of the house (not to say we don't have large donors to the AA). Secondly, I think we, as fans, are more analytical and therefore more fickle than the collegiate fans from many other schools. When we are unhappy with something, it is easy for us to "vote with our attendance." Other places do it as well, but the demand for those venues is undeniably higher than what we have traditionally seen at BDS (for a myriad of reasons - This is a whole other topic in and of itself). The bottom line is that Tech, either through poor use of existing capital or difficulty in raising new capital, does not have the same resources commiserate with many of the dominant athletic programs. Look at the current state of our basketball practice facilities for all the confirmation you could want.

These are not excuses, but I do think they are factors. Tech usually attracts a specific kind of S-A that mitigates a lot of the negatives that a scarcity of resources could provide. Many of the athletes I have known are smarter and more mature than your average S-A nationally. They are often self-motivators and understand the work, both on and off the field that is needed to be a Tech Man (it is much easier to be one than to become one). With these types of players you often exceed expectations and overachieve. But, if handled properly and but into a position to succeed, these types of people can achieve wondrous feats.

With that said, I think Tech should be an above average program that wins 8 games a year in football, 20 in basketball and has meaningful games either late in the year or in the post season. I think we should win at least 10 games once every 5 years and beat UGA on a consistent basis (I won't determine what is consistent). I would have been content with Gailey winning 7-9 games most years if he could have jumped up a notch in his time here and win 10 and beat UGA.

As far as argument and debate go....I love it. However, when you don't think that the opposing view should even be given a chance to rebut or intimidate and harass the opposing view to the point of absurdity than you devalue the whole concept.
 
A Hiver, a Stingtalker, and a BBuzzoffer walk into a diner.

The Hiver, after exclaiming what an incredible day it was to be alive, starts off with a fresh cup of Joe, and orders some eggs, sunny side up.

The BBuzzoffer, mumbling to himself about the guy asking for quarters, wants to talk to the manager about letting vagrants into the parking lot and that maybe the manager should consider another profession if he is going to accept that kind of mediocrity.

The Hiver tells him to chill out, or he wont go eat breakfast with him anymore.

Grudgingly, the Bbuzzoffer orders a day old danish and some cornbeef re-hash

The Hiver is passing out his email address to everyone in the diner, to make small talk and offer prayers. Also, he chides the adolescents who are not "properly dressed". He is fondly remembering Jerry Brown, and thinks to himself, or maybe says out loud "Mellow out or you will pay"

The Stingtalker is watching with amusement, but wonders why noone is coming over to take his order...
 
TampaJacket said:
Name 5.
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Don't know five--but there were 500---hell maybe 5000 that said we should keep Gailey--for money reasons--for the two losing seasons we will have just due to making the change--for the rationale that any new coach would not be able to better the record that Gailey was producing.
And there will be 50,000 saying "I told you so" on this board and others if we are 2-5 in October.
Good is the enemy of great. The change was needed. The change has been made. But TechNation was not unified for the change, not unified on who was chosen, and will not be unified behind Coach Johnson and Radakovich unless and until there are seasons with greater than 7 wins and wins agaisnt Georgia.
 
Yukonwreck said:
thanks-gratifying coming from an einstein like you. I've read your drivel. Unimpressive. Get new writers.
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I think he was agreeing with you which does put him in the difficult position of coming up with an alternate explanation for a lot of the content originating from your font.

While I do not agree with BoR 100% of the time, I find his writing to be authentic, logical, concise and humorous and think he should give his writers a raise and a bonus.
 
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