who will be the number 2 qb at T day?

This stuff is always interesting and I'm not doubting what anyone has said about Tevin, but when he was signed, Scouts has this to say, among other things..."He has a quick release and is accurate on the short and intermediate routes. He has nice touch on the long ball, but struggles just a bit if he has to muscle up on a deep out." That's from a review by Scott Kennedy.
 
ncjacket said:
This stuff is always interesting and I'm not doubting what anyone has said about Tevin, but when he was signed, Scouts has this to say, among other things..."He has a quick release and is accurate on the short and intermediate routes. He has nice touch on the long ball, but struggles just a bit if he has to muscle up on a deep out." That's from a review by Scott Kennedy.
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he obviously never saw him play live. and just saw his highlight tape. In 4 weeks in fall I never saw Tevin release one ball as a tight spiral, and almost every deep ball was an underthrow. His out routes were nearly picked off every time or sailed out of bounds. About all he threw well were rollout dump off passes. In fact, his first 3 days at practice I was in Awe that we even recruited this kid at QB. He did make some progression over the 4 weeks...but it was option related not passing.

Like the coaches said, if we can't cover the whole state of GA, how are 8 scout analysts to cover the whole country? Tevin has and probably still has a lot of work to do. I am anxious to see how he is coming along.
 
B-rockGT said:
i suspect nesbitt will be the guy for this year with jaybo and tevin coming in on certain situations primarily having tevin as the number 2 guy. IMO both incoming qbs will be redshirted which will be huge for us cause they will learn the system, get bigger, and improve on areas they need to much like tevin was able to do. i have class with tevin and he looks pretty solid. i cant wait to see what he can do during spring. ultimately i think jaybos playing time will be reduced from here on. i hate it but even if he has bulked up i dont think he has the size.
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we'll see. if tevin is still as bad tossing the rock as he was in fall 08, then there is no way he passes jaybo...especially with paul saying this spring he is placing emphasis on the passing game.

I hope for our sake he has improved greatly. He is definitely more athletic than jaybo.
 
FWIW........I asked CPJ at signing day about Jaybo's weight. He said he was at 196. They were not going to let him get much bigger, because they were afraid it would take away from his quickness. He said Jaybo was Tech's quickest QB through the holes, and he wanted to make sure he maintained that quickness.
 
I personally think Nesbitt is a much better passer than his numbers suggested last year. A very significant number of his passes were dropped (considering how few passes he had) and he only had 1 legitimate receiving threat.

Also, he missed a large majority of spring (and a lot of Fall) practices, so I am sure CPJ wasn't make him practice passing routes too much, but getting the basics of the TO installed.

And then there is the issue of him always running for his life.

That being said, how many of you think that we could have a dual package system (kinda like Florida did, a couple of years ago), with us switching a couple of QB's just to give one some rest? I think it opens up a lot of opportunities, but I believe CPJ has said it doesn't work....
 
rghoae said:
That being said, how many of you think that we could have a dual package system (kinda like Florida did, a couple of years ago), with us switching a couple of QB's just to give one some rest? I think it opens up a lot of opportunities, but I believe CPJ has said it doesn't work....
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I think it would be more likely to happen if we RS both incoming QB's, because they seem more similar. This is important cause if we have 2 QB's with different specialties then it doesn't work as well. Plus sometimes it's a confidence thing. In a 2 QB system there is always the possibility of a QB getting pulled out because he isn't performing well (rather than for rest as stated above). You can undermind a QB's confidence that way (just look at Miami).
 
I don't know who the backup will be. I just hope he doesn't see the field much.
 
Nothing against Jaybo, but to those of you who think he is a great passer and a for sure #2 (or #1), just remember back to the "oh s**t" feeling you had when Nesbit got hurt in the georgie game.

I'd be willing to bet if you go back and look at the posts, at least 2 or 3 folks said we were going to lose.

The bottom line is JN and JS have both got to get better with the passing and the line has to get better at giving them time. PJ will get the depth chart right.
 
Jaybo. He clearly has the goods to run the system. Just needs to work on overall strength and his throwing. As complicated as the system is, I don't think that either Sims or Luallen will crack the 2-deep this fall. I'd imagine that Nesbitt, Shaw and Washington will be our top 3. All will have had a full year+ in the system. That is crucial to taking the next step.
 
I'm with GTWB -- Jaybo has been a better passer than Nesbitt so far. That's both in the games where the numbers aren't even close, and in the one scrimmage I saw where he was 3-6 for about 150 yards.

Nesbitt is definitely the best overall QB in our system. Also I know Nesbitt has a stronger arm, throws a tighter spiral and all that. He's probably got more overall upside.

But Jaybo seems to have a knack for completing passes, even under duress.
 
Agree on Josh's arm and that he throws a nice ball. Maybe coaching can help him realize his full potential. Jaybo has to be #2 in my book unless he just comes apart which I don't see happening. Coaching will improve him, too. Hopefully Tevin as well.
 
Its not just about comparing skills. Its also about which one can execute the offense the way its intended to be run as well as which one is least inclined to turn the ball over.

Sometimes you have to sacrifice some upside to limit the downside. And the coach has to decide how much time to allocate to improving skills versus how much time minimizing errors and missed opportunities.

I'm not sure which is worse - missing a wide open receiver or not seeing that he was wide open in the first place. In a way, missing the receiver is probably better since the qb probably ran or handed off instead which at least moved the ball somewhat vs losing a down.

Its a very difficult analysis - one I'm glad I don't have to make. But I have more confidence in CPJs ability to make it then I have had in our coach in a long, long time.
 
You guys are crazy that think Jaybo is a better passer. Many of Josh's "inaccurate" passes were plays that Jaybo would have been sacked on.
 
gnats67 said:
Agree on Josh's arm and that he throws a nice ball. Maybe coaching can help him realize his full potential. Jaybo has to be #2 in my book unless he just comes apart which I don't see happening. Coaching will improve him, too. Hopefully Tevin as well.
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Agree whole-heartedly. Good coaching will improve every athlete we have. And that is the foundation of the optimism being shown across the board for Tech football. For the first time in a long time we have decent raw material at QB (and many other positions) and a staff that is not just competent with the X's and O's but seem to be very good teachers of technique, and MOTIVATORS, too. To be better in November than we are in September was on everybody's list of goals. I think that one was definitely accomplished in 2008 and I fully expect the same in 2009--with the difference being we will start off being a whole lot better team in Sept 2009 than we were taking the field in Sept 2008. THWG!
 
Aiken Jacket said:
Disagree - I hope the #2 QB sees the field A LOT, especially in the 2nd half!
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You make a very good point, sir.
I'd love to see our backup QB wearing out an exhausted, frustrated, mentally and physically beaten and demoralized UGa secondary with an insurmountable lead to protect him.
 
Also remember that Nesbitt was learning an offense that is completely new to him and also learning how to throw from a dropback while being chased like a rabbit. If I remember he passed and ran from a shot gun in high school and mostly ran from shot gun in live games in 2007
 
Nice to have the depth to have this conversation.

My $.02

(1) Nesbitt - Strongest arm, most elusive runner, most powerful runner of the three. Can miss throws high when amped. Nice deep ball. He's a hard worker and a fierce competitor--I only see him getting better.

(2) Shaw - Good decision maker, hits hole quickly, accurate, but arm strength is slightly below average. Accurate on short to mid range throws. Cannot create when nothing's there, and is the least powerful of the three runners.

(3) Washington - Has top end speed (aka extra gear) the other QBs do not. Runs the option well. Unless passing has improved, he will be more of a running only QB--and likely to stay the 3rd man off the bench. If he has in fact improved his passing, even to just below Jaybo's level, he could compete for #2.
 
PepperR said:
Also remember that Nesbitt was learning an offense that is completely new to him and also learning how to throw from a dropback while being chased like a rabbit. If I remember he passed and ran from a shot gun in high school and mostly ran from shot gun in live games in 2007
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True--Nesbitt actually had to become accustomed to taking the snap from under center. He improved tremendously over the course of the season even though he missed two full games and who knows how many reps in practice due to injury. It is, however, still bothersome that even in the Georgia and LSU games his passing was not at all sharp. There is no doubt that he is a playmaker, but his passing ability has got to improve if we are going to take that leap to becoming multi-dimensional. Our running/option game will be sufficient to win the majority of our games because it is going to be vastly improved with O-line upgrades and better execution from all members of the backfield. But there are three or four teams on our schedule with defenses that must be stretched in order for us to win those games. If we can get to a level of 175 to 200 passing yards per game, passing about 16 to 20 times per game we can be successful against VPI, FSU, UGA, and even Wake and Vanderbilt. If we aren't able to present a viable threat to move the ball by passing, we could get throttled.
 
I believe we will see significant improvement from all three QB's. Nesbitt, Jaybo, and Tevin will have another year of maturity, another year working with and learning PJ's offensive system, and another year of building their bodies in the weight room. LAst year Nesbitt was a true soph, really more like a redshirt freshman because of having very little actual game experience and zero game experience with the triple option, and of course Jaybo and Tevin true freshmen. All three should have mucho learning curve growth for 2009 vrs 2008.
 
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