Why not Dare to be Great?

71YellowJacket

71YellowJacket

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Why not Steve Spurrier or another of the greatest coaches in the game? Someone who could make an immediate direction changing impact on our program. Can you honestly say you see that level of coach in any of the lists being bantered around? The best names I'm hearing have long-term potential at best. We have an opportunity now to break out of our unworthiness mentality and match our football program to the same expectations we have for academics.

I’m damn tired of hearing all the reasons why we should be happy with 7 wins per year with an occasional opportunity for a swirley at Boise’s blue water bowl.

I want DRad to personally drive to Columbia and bring Spurrier back, even if it’s in the trunk of his car.

The future is now. Do we have guts enough to at least try?
 
What also pisses me off is all these ****ing reporters saying how the GT fanbase should be happy with 7 wins each year and being UGAys bitch year in and year out. They obviously are blind to the eras when Heisman, Alexander, and Dodd were at the helm, who all won National Championships in 1917, 1928, and 1952 respectively.
 
You may want to read an article in The State (newspaper here in Columbia).

Spurrier’s name is bound to come up in regard to coaching vacancies. But don’t worry USC fans, the Head Ball Coach isn’t going anywhere


http://www.thestate.com/sports/
 
71YellowJacket said:
Why not Steve Spurrier or another of the greatest coaches in the game? ... The future is now. Do we have guts enough to at least try?
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71, I couldn't agree more. I was going to start a thread this morning called "Dare to Dream" but you beat me to it.

Will we get Spurrier? I seriously doubt it, but the mere speculation made me come to the same conclusion you evidently came to.

Why can't we go get someone that will immediately elevate us? Sure, it's a gamble but why not try? I'm not talking about retreading some big name on the downside of his career. I'm talking about a catalyst, a la Spurrier.

We're not some backwater program with no history and no interest. When I was a kid, Tech football was the hottest ticket in town (Actually it was the ONLY ticket in town :)). Sure the city has grown and there's more competition for the sports dollar but does that mean we settle for being relegated to 2nd tier behind UGAg and the friggin FALCONS?

I believe DRad is committed to making us big again and he is doing the right things. I'll support whomever he chooses with my wallet and my emotions.

But come on Dan, AIM HIGH BRO! After all we are Georgia Friggin Tech!!

GO JACKETS!!!
 
Spurrier will not come to Tech unless we threw 3 million a year at him, which we clearly cannot afford after buying Chan out. If Spurrier goes anywhere, it will be higher profile, e.g. A&M / Nebraska / LSU.
 
Beej67,

Remember revenues are not inelastic. IF we were to land Spurrier, ticket sales would go increase beyond any of our wildest dreams. Affording a world-class coach is entirely possible.

My doubts are whether or not we see ourselves as a world-class football program...

What is it pogo said, we have met the enemy and it is us?
 
1) To cover the kind of cash it would take to get him here (4 million Chan buyout, 4 million Spurrier buyout, 3 million or more per year) we would have to triple or quadruple the Tech fund. Try selling that to the whiners who complained about the piddly cost of it last year.

2) If we land Spurrier and he loses 5 games his first season, ticket sales would go right back to where they were, and our program would be boned.

There's no way Radikovich takes that risk, not for the kind of guaranteed cash it would take to get Spurrier to jump ship. When you go to Vegas, you don't wager the mortgage to your house.
 
71YellowJacket said:
Why not Steve Spurrier or another of the greatest coaches in the game? Someone who could make an immediate direction changing impact on our program. Can you honestly say you see that level of coach in any of the lists being bantered around? The best names I'm hearing have long-term potential at best. We have an opportunity now to break out of our unworthiness mentality and match our football program to the same expectations we have for academics.

I’m damn tired of hearing all the reasons why we should be happy with 7 wins per year with an occasional opportunity for a swirley at Boise’s blue water bowl.

I want DRad to personally drive to Columbia and bring Spurrier back, even if it’s in the trunk of his car.

The future is now. Do we have guts enough to at least try?
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Exactly. If you read the transcript or listened to DRAD- the Glenn Mason's, Paul Johnson's, etc of the world arent dynamic, marketing material. Again, the 7-8 wins a year can be done with any of these guys but we just had that and nobody was there to see the games- He wants a high powered exciting team, to sell tickets, win games, and chance at competing for the ACC Championship. Start at the top first. I like his balls!
 
beej67 said:
1) To cover the kind of cash it would take to get him here (4 million Chan buyout, 4 million Spurrier buyout, 3 million or more per year) we would have to triple or quadruple the Tech fund. Try selling that to the whiners who complained about the piddly cost of it last year.

2) If we land Spurrier and he loses 5 games his first season, ticket sales would go right back to where they were, and our program would be boned.

There's no way Radikovich takes that risk, not for the kind of guaranteed cash it would take to get Spurrier to jump ship. When you go to Vegas, you don't wager the mortgage to your house.
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Thanks Beej67 for making my point. I'm afraid your fears are well represented in our (shrinking) fan base.

Let's change this thread's title; "Let's Dream Small", or "Let's set our goals low", here is another, "Live Life Small".

There are worse I won't repeat involving our evolving role with UGA....
 
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beej67 said:
1) To cover the kind of cash it would take to get him here (4 million Chan buyout, 4 million Spurrier buyout, 3 million or more per year) we would have to triple or quadruple the Tech fund. Try selling that to the whiners who complained about the piddly cost of it last year.

2) If we land Spurrier and he loses 5 games his first season, ticket sales would go right back to where they were, and our program would be boned.

There's no way Radikovich takes that risk, not for the kind of guaranteed cash it would take to get Spurrier to jump ship. When you go to Vegas, you don't wager the mortgage to your house.
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You are the amazing. Its worth a shot. "we cant do this, we cant do that..." I like the thinking if its true. Star, Offense, ticket sales as well as advertising. National Publicity. The ACC is easy to win, much easier than even the SEC East division must less the SEC. His buyout is 2MM. Chan's is paid out on a monthly basis. And again, the anticipation over a few year period would do incredible for ticket sales- especially the 10-15k Bandwagoners we need to fill it up! I dont know you from adam, but you sound like an engineer- too pragmatic! Think big first. A salesman get nowhere without some elephants! I would love Dan Rad for at least trying- then we are on the right track. We need to sell GT to everyone! And right now we obviously cant sell GT to even the alumni. Paul Johnson would be status quo as far as tix sales, excitement, doesnt even throw the football. Hatcher would be a great diamond in the rough. Spurrier would be Amazing. THose fit description of what DRAD and Clough stated the other day. Who knows
 
Thanks Beej67 for making my point. I'm afraid you fears are well represented in our (shrinking) fan base.
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Just because something's bold doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Personally, I think Hatcher might be just as good if not better an offensive coach than Spurrier. The only time he's been a really amazing coach was at Florida when he had the best O Line in the country and a top 5 QB prospect every year. I think Spurrier's USC performance (lost 5 strait in the SEC) is a lot more indicative of what he could accomplish at Tech.

So if you're going to take a chance, why spend 10 million to roll the dice when we can spend a quarter that with Hatcher? It's the same dice.

I think hiring Hatcher is daring to be great. I think hiring an LSU coordinator is daring to be consistent, and hiring Paul Johnson is daring to be mediocre, and hiring Spurrier is paying out the nose to dare to fail.

Hell, Spurrier can't even beat Clemson, his own in-state rival, and we've beaten them semi-regularly.
 
Originally Posted by PreventOffense
I like his balls!
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TechGator1066 said:
You what? :ugh:
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Here's one of DRad's balls.

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beej67 said:
Just because something's bold doesn't make it the right thing to do.

Personally, I think Hatcher might be just as good if not better an offensive coach than Spurrier. The only time he's been a really amazing coach was at Florida when he had the best O Line in the country and a top 5 QB prospect every year. I think Spurrier's USC performance (lost 5 strait in the SEC) is a lot more indicative of what he could accomplish at Tech.

So if you're going to take a chance, why spend 10 million to roll the dice when we can spend a quarter that with Hatcher? It's the same dice.

I think hiring Hatcher is daring to be great. I think hiring an LSU coordinator is daring to be consistent, and hiring Paul Johnson is daring to be mediocre, and hiring Spurrier is paying out the nose to dare to fail.
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Hatcher may be fine - but I had the privilege of watching his overtime loss to Elon in person this fall.
Absolutely no defense, his team lost to a team with much less talent.
 
beej67 said:
Just because something's bold doesn't make it the right thing to do.
So if you're going to take a chance, why spend 10 million to roll the dice when we can spend a quarter that with Hatcher? It's the same dice.
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Wow, this logic is just, just so wrong... The odds are the same with anyone we put in the job???? The next poster who comes up with something this dumb need to have his nose shoved into the blue carpet one thousand times.

God save us from mediocrity. Ok, I vote for BOR for head coach, what do we have to lose?
 
Wow, this logic is just, just so wrong... The odds are the same with anyone we put in the job????
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Umm, no. I never said all coaches are equal. I said in my opinion Spurrier is no better than Hatcher. Did you bother to watch the USC-Clemson game, per chance? Or pay attention to USC football at all this year? Very "Chanesque." (6-6 after his 3rd year?) The ONLY thing Spurrier has over most of the other candidates is he'd really piss the Georgia fans off.

I think the odds are better with Hatcher and Spurrier than Paul Johnson, and those odds are better than Will Muschamp or Jimbo Fisher.

And if you've got the same odds with Hatcher and Spurrier, and Hatcher costs less, you pick Hatcher. Very simple.
 
beej67 said:
Umm, no. I never said all coaches are equal. I said in my opinion Spurrier is no better than Hatcher. Did you bother to watch the USC-Clemson game, per chance? Or pay attention to USC football at all this year? Very "Chanesque." (6-6 after his 3rd year?) The ONLY thing Spurrier has over most of the other candidates is he'd really piss the Georgia fans off.

I think the odds are better with Hatcher and Spurrier than Paul Johnson, and those odds are better than Will Muschamp or Jimbo Fisher.

And if you've got the same odds with Hatcher and Spurrier, and Hatcher costs less, you pick Hatcher. Very simple.
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OK, let's put you judgement of coaching talent aside for another post. Whoever the best coach right now is, why not go after him? Why settle for second tier?
 
77GTFan said:
Hatcher may be fine - but I had the privilege of watching his overtime loss to Elon in person this fall.
Absolutely no defense, his team lost to a team with much less talent.
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Ok. He has been at GSU less than a year. Loses in OT to Elon who has #3 QB in nation. He has 31 scholarship players, converts a WR to QB who is one of 3 finalists for the Heisman of DIV-1AA, and you see one of his losses and its "No way!" Maybe he has nothing and because he has a great offensive mind he won 7 games with a team that barely won 3 just the year before. Sounds like a winner. Turned Fabian Walker from a loser at FSU to a great QB the year he was at Val St. I want Offense! And, we already have a decent defense and coach- plus Tenuta and Hatcher are friends from COaching camps in the summers.
 
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