I've taken the bowl streak for granted.

cyptomcat said:
It's weird to see same record for Gailey and OLeary when you add them up.

Johnson 14-23 (11-21 vs "Big 4")
Gailey 7-15 (7-13 vs "Big 4")
OLeary 7-15 (7-8 vs "Big 4")

CPJ basically has slightly better record against these five. Over the next two seasons, if that record creeps to Gailey/OLeary levels, he is out the door. I think most would agree with that.

If we don't make a bowl next season, he is probably out the door. (Easier schedule)

Otherwise, I would extend him with 1-1 against uga and something like at least 2-4 against Clemson, VT and Miami. 3-3 would make the decision easier.
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It's a bit misleading to compare O'Leary's record without mentioning that his 0-7 record vs FSU was against a program that was a perennial top 5 program at the time.

Chan and Paul have not had a perennial top 5 program they've had to face. Paul has to face Clemson now and they appear like they're going to be tough for a while, but part of his tenure was against baby Bowden and Dabo in his early years. Likewise, Chan had UGA during the first years of Richt, when they were at their best. But even they were never a top 5 program every single year like FSU was during O'Leary's tenure.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
As long as he didn't lose to WF with an Orange Bowl bid on the line or have a player of his lose out on the Heisman, it doesn't matter...

...

...wait, what?
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WTF? We should blame O'Leary for his player not winning the Heisman? Despite the fact that a player of his finished as runner up for the Heisman....the highest finish ever by a Tech player?
 
daBuzz said:
It's a bit misleading to compare O'Leary's record without mentioning that his 0-7 record vs FSU was against a program that was a perennial top 5 program at the time.

Chan and Paul have not had a perennial top 5 program they've had to face. Paul has to face Clemson now and they appear like they're going to be tough for a while, but part of his tenure was against baby Bowden and Dabo in his early years. Likewise, Chan had UGA during the first years of Richt, when they were at their best. But even they were never a top 5 program every single year like FSU was during O'Leary's tenure.
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by the same argument, GOL got to beat up on the Donnan-dawgs.
 
daBuzz said:
WTF? We should blame O'Leary for his player not winning the Heisman? Despite the fact that a player of his finished as runner up for the Heisman....the highest finish ever by a Tech player?
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I don't make the stupid rules for that award, but it's pretty common knowledge GOL unable to field a defense capable of stopping a 7-5 WF team torpedoed Joe's Heisman chances.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
If you're immature or not emotionally stable enough to handle the disappointment that often comes with that, yes.
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But if you are able to handle it and just point out stats that show that CPJ isn't the Greatest Coach in the History of All Sports, then it's OK?
 
daBuzz said:
It's a bit misleading to compare O'Leary's record without mentioning that his 0-7 record vs FSU was against a program that was a perennial top 5 program at the time.

Chan and Paul have not had a perennial top 5 program they've had to face. Paul has to face Clemson now and they appear like they're going to be tough for a while, but part of his tenure was against baby Bowden and Dabo in his early years. Likewise, Chan had UGA during the first years of Richt, when they were at their best. But even they were never a top 5 program every single year like FSU was during O'Leary's tenure.
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Johnson's lost to some of the worst VPI and Miami teams in recent history.
 
EffinDane said:
No. Bigcrying about a fairly well respected and reasonably successful coach that isn't even close to the top of the list of things holding the program back is very bad, though.
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I think it's close to the top. And pointing out stats that show that he's not quite the Genius many of his disciples proclaim isn't bigcrying...except to those who like the coach and his offense more than they like GT itself.

But then...those 'fans' can öööö right off.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
I think it's close to the top. And pointing out stats that show that he's not quite the Genius many of his disciples proclaim isn't bigcrying...except to those who like the coach and his offense more than they like GT itself.

But then...those 'fans' can öööö right off.
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Nobody is saying that. I like CPJ, but you're a bigcrying moron if you think a school with a tiny fan base (apparently filled with whiny ass crybabies), that shot itself in the foot by leaving a to-be powerhouse conference, that has a tiny ass stadium, that gets öööö on by the state government at every possible turn, whose alumni leave the state at an absurd rate, whose school is way more invested in becoming the premier engineering school in the world rather than the football powerhouse of the region, that has 40% grad students in an already relatively small enrollment, doesn't have bigger problems then a coach who nobody could argue whose talents aren't in the upper third of his peers. Oh also, our athletic association is bush league. That doesn't help, either.

Do other fanbases have this amount of crying? Why do you people even watch football? Clearly, you really DONT like GT football as much as I do if you can let a freakishly unlucky and bad season get your panties in sub a large bunch.
 
EffinDane said:
Nobody is saying that. I like CPJ, but you're a bigcrying moron if you think a school with a tiny fan base (apparently filled with whiny ass crybabies), that shot itself in the foot by leaving a to-be powerhouse conference, that has a tiny ass stadium, that gets öööö on by the state government at every possible turn, whose alumni leave the state at an absurd rate, whose school is way more invested in becoming the premier engineering school in the world rather than the football powerhouse of the region, that has 40% grad students in an already relatively small enrollment, doesn't have bigger problems then a coach who nobody could argue whose talents aren't in the upper third of his peers. Oh also, our athletic association is bush league. That doesn't help, either.

Do other fanbases have this amount of crying? Why do you people even watch football? Clearly, you really DONT like GT football as much as I do if you can let a freakishly unlucky and bad season get your panties in sub a large bunch.
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Calm down, Chachi. No one's crying. You disciples just need to realize that not everyone worships CPJ the way his fanboys do.

From reading your little pathetic rant, the only one truly getting upset is you. You clearly have major issues - you should walk off a cliff immediately. Kinda like our program did in 2015.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
Calm down, Chachi. No one's crying. You disciples just need to realize that not everyone worships CPJ the way his fanboys do.

From reading your little pathetic rant, the only one truly getting upset is you. You clearly have major issues - you should walk off a cliff immediately. Kinda like our program did in 2015.
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"Uh uh, you're upset"

Nobody is asking you to worship PJ, just to stop crying like a little bitch.
 
EffinDane said:
"Uh uh, you're upset"

Nobody is asking you to worship PJ, just to stop crying like a little bitch.
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You Johnsonians really need to take a chill pill and R-E-L-A-X. In your case, might as well OD on a bottle full of 'em.
 
I admit, I missed having a bowl game pretty bad. Tech's performance this year also checked me out of college football more than ever.

I don't think this year is the beginning of the end. Until proven otherwise, I'll consider it a fluke. I still don't know why we only won 3 games, one of which was against FSU. That makes no sense. Looking at CPJ as a head coach, this was far and away his worst season, including his 2 win season the first year at Navy.

No reason not to be as excited about next year. Sewak was the coach in 2014. So, even the most current scapegoat doesn't mean we'll totally suck in 2016. The defense will take a step back, but will still be better than it was when Tevin Washington was running the offense. The world isn't ending.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
So wanting to be better is bad?
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no, wanting to be better is required
but acting like an irrational dumbass whiney bitch because of it, that is bad

just firing every coach that ends up with similar results doesnt get you anywhere, as the data shows.

but perhaps we can hire Gandalf, and he can put a spell on a bunch of 5* talents so that they really want to go to a hard school where they might fail out and not get swamped by adoring and plentiful coeds looking for a future playa; and then magically he will fix their grades to make them eligible and then we will RETURN TO THE GLORY!!!

if a school like Texas, that has all the money in the world to throw at the problem, all the recruiting base they would need, etc, if they struggle and then how hard do you think Georgia Tech has to work to be where it is?

you are a moron, dude
 
BuzzCzar said:
no, wanting to be better is required
but acting like an irrational dumbass whiney bitch because of it, that is bad

just firing every coach that ends up with similar results doesnt get you anywhere, as the data shows.

but perhaps we can hire Gandalf, and he can put a spell on a bunch of 5* talents so that they really want to go to a hard school where they might fail out and not get swamped by adoring and plentiful coeds looking for a future playa; and then magically he will fix their grades to make them eligible and then we will RETURN TO THE GLORY!!!

if a school like Texas, that has all the money in the world to throw at the problem, all the recruiting base they would need, etc, if they struggle and then how hard do you think Georgia Tech has to work to be where it is?

you are a moron, dude
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We already have Gandalf.

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BuzzCzar said:
no, wanting to be better is required
but acting like an irrational dumbass whiney bitch because of it, that is bad

just firing every coach that ends up with similar results doesnt get you anywhere, as the data shows.

but perhaps we can hire Gandalf, and he can put a spell on a bunch of 5* talents so that they really want to go to a hard school where they might fail out and not get swamped by adoring and plentiful coeds looking for a future playa; and then magically he will fix their grades to make them eligible and then we will RETURN TO THE GLORY!!!

if a school like Texas, that has all the money in the world to throw at the problem, all the recruiting base they would need, etc, if they struggle and then how hard do you think Georgia Tech has to work to be where it is?

you are a moron, dude
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I definitely agree with your observation that it'd take a wizard to get a 5 * recruit to play for CPJ.

The whole Johnsonian rant about "firing the coach" is laughable - if anything, GT is one of the more stable places to coach in all of football. We've had exactly 3 coaches in 21 years. We will never get rid of CPJ - he'll be here until he retires no matter how many dismal seasons we have and you make excuses for.

You're a jackass and a masochist, dude.
 
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