Balanced Approach

ThisIsAtlanta said:
Another good psychological trick is pointing out that 2009 + 5 = 2014. 2014 + 5 = 2019.

Think about it.
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Longestdays said:
I think there is a mass psychology bandwagoning going on. The CPJ haters are hating. The others are tired of defending, don't have enough wins to defend, and are worried about going less than 6 and 6 as panic sets in. Losing ugly to Pitt was pretty low. No one wants to be wrong. If you can't beat them join them, right?

Facts as been talked about too much
  • The school is what it is and is even harder to recruit even outside of PJ's offense since the introduction of APR.
  • The school is getting better, but is not committed to being a factory - if you expect a factory, be prepared to be disappointed
  • The past AD set back the program several years and part of what CPJ is dealing with due to the lack of support
  • The salaries are what they are and they are not pretty and not enticing (going to have to take a chance on someone)
  • Even factories struggle (see FSU)
  • Defenses have to be installed and need some time unless you have a team of 4 stars (I am guilty of hoping for the moon in the first year)
  • Look at all the teams that got a new HC - was that the silver bullet? Sometimes it helped and many times it did not (FSU, Nebraska, Virginia,... but GSU looks to be doing better)
CPJ
  • His offense seems to be hated/look down on/even despised at times by the media, refs, and many fans (although I like it, I know many people hate it)
  • He is both OC and HC. I think the program really needs a OC and a HC as doing both is too much for one person. I think this really needs to change.
  • Special teams have not been good and this is ongoing. I think this is a OC/HC thing.
  • The QB really makes this O go and if the QB is not going the program will not go. TQM is a good athlete and errors a lot on trying to keep the ball or not forcing the pitch. He can pitch, but I am learning he does not force the pitch like JT and or TW.
  • The defenses have not been good. I want to believe this to be a right DC thing but the jury is still out on the recent higher.
The bubble of having a special year appears to be popped. There is still a chance to go bowling and now is not the time to quit on the team or coach. Yes, I know some are tired of defending and are afraid maybe the haters are right. I feel the same way. Don't be afraid. Don't give in to the an unknown future.

I was yelling at the TV and CPJ to put TO in mainly do to the lack of TQM in following the system and forcing the pitches. (TQM I love you and you gave your all yesterday and it was not all your fault). I'll have to go back and see if I was wrong about the pitch hesitations, but I saw the hesitations against USF. I would error on the side of a system player in the scale of TW to Vad. Go for system over passing right now (although i wanted to see the reverse and it was stuffed.... don't pay me millions to coach) .

I am going to take the season as it comes NOW with the only hopes of making a bowl. CPJ is a good man and deserves to go out better. I wonder if a team gives up when the fans give up... I sure hope not.

If we change coaches be prepared for some tough years. GT's strength of schedule is very hard and if per chance we find someone who can do something good... they are going to bolt quicker than quick for more money. I can't wait to reply to every thread and try and ruin every board with I told you so like the CPJ haters. I plan to make that my mission in life.

I want CPJ to have one more year with JG at QB and go out on top.
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CPJ could have started and developed Lucas Johnson or Jay Jones last year... He chose not to.... He could play Tobias ( He did and Tobias gave the team a 10 pt lead only to have CPJ to bench Tobias and lose the game) If you want JG and CPJ then you need to hope that Either CPJ plays him This year or switched to Tobias and we can get to 6 Wins..... Becuase it is not happening with Marshall at QB
 
JJ left for more than play time... GT is not easy.

I think that CPJ was so down after LJ got hurt because he knew he needed him. I was wondering if LJ was pushing TQM and I have no doubt that LJ would be put in the game more...

I think you only have room to really groom two QBs and bring the third along far enough to get through in a pinch.
 
Longestdays said:

I think there is a mass psychology bandwagoning going on. The CPJ haters are hating. The others are tired of defending, don't have enough wins to defend, and are worried about going less than 6 and 6 as panic sets in. Losing ugly to Pitt was pretty low. No one wants to be wrong. If you can't beat them join them, right?

Facts as been talked about too much
  • The school is what it is and is even harder to recruit even outside of PJ's offense since the introduction of APR.
  • The school is getting better, but is not committed to being a factory - if you expect a factory, be prepared to be disappointed
  • The past AD set back the program several years and part of what CPJ is dealing with due to the lack of support
  • The salaries are what they are and they are not pretty and not enticing (going to have to take a chance on someone)
  • Even factories struggle (see FSU)
  • Defenses have to be installed and need some time unless you have a team of 4 stars (I am guilty of hoping for the moon in the first year)
  • Look at all the teams that got a new HC - was that the silver bullet? Sometimes it helped and many times it did not (FSU, Nebraska, Virginia,... but GSU looks to be doing better)
CPJ
  • His offense seems to be hated/look down on/even despised at times by the media, refs, and many fans (although I like it, I know many people hate it)
  • He is both OC and HC. I think the program really needs a OC and a HC as doing both is too much for one person. I think this really needs to change.
  • Special teams have not been good and this is ongoing. I think this is a OC/HC thing.
  • The QB really makes this O go and if the QB is not going the program will not go. TQM is a good athlete and errors a lot on trying to keep the ball or not forcing the pitch. He can pitch, but I am learning he does not force the pitch like JT and or TW.
  • The defenses have not been good. I want to believe this to be a right DC thing but the jury is still out on the recent higher.
The bubble of having a special year appears to be popped. There is still a chance to go bowling and now is not the time to quit on the team or coach. Yes, I know some are tired of defending and are afraid maybe the haters are right. I feel the same way. Don't be afraid. Don't give in to the an unknown future.

I was yelling at the TV and CPJ to put TO in mainly do to the lack of TQM in following the system and forcing the pitches. (TQM I love you and you gave your all yesterday and it was not all your fault). I'll have to go back and see if I was wrong about the pitch hesitations, but I saw the hesitations against USF. I would error on the side of a system player in the scale of TW to Vad. Go for system over passing right now (although i wanted to see the reverse and it was stuffed.... don't pay me millions to coach) .

I am going to take the season as it comes NOW with the only hopes of making a bowl. CPJ is a good man and deserves to go out better. I wonder if a team gives up when the fans give up... I sure hope not.

If we change coaches be prepared for some tough years. GT's strength of schedule is very hard and if per chance we find someone who can do something good... they are going to bolt quicker than quick for more money. I can't wait to reply to every thread and try and ruin every board with I told you so like the CPJ haters. I plan to make that my mission in life.

I want CPJ to have one more year with JG at QB and go out on top.
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Not a hater, but he should coach till his contract expires and not ask for an Extension. Then we get George Godsey in as HC!
 
I'm not sure we can afford to pay CPJ through the end of his contract. He is signed up through 2023? It may come down to economics. How many tickets lost vs paying two head coaches. Just sayin. I bet CPJ will be here next year. AD likes him, he has a decent history and would be a big payoff. However if keeping him kills ticket sales, all bets are off. It may take another year to prove that. I don't want to be ostrasized but I'm kind of with longest day but it's getting harder.
 
Longestdays said:
The buyout is $2 MM at the end of this season.
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$4 million this year due in $1 million per year payments. $2 million if he's fired at the end of 2019.
Look at the contract that is posted just a few above. Page 1. Article 1 - Term 1

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I just want to watch tech football and not see high school level execution. gimme a coach that can make that happen consistently
 
The defenses have not been good. I want to believe this to be a right DC thing but the jury is still out on the recent higher
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Bruh, you cant continue to hire/fire DC's and not eventually look at the what's in common with all of these bad defenses. It's the HC, not the DC.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Absent a dramatic turnaround, trotting CPJ out for another year means a demoralized fanbase and a bad look for an AD who is trying to raise money. This simple reality trumps the rest of your points.
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This is what's going to happen. Eventually the boosters are going to stop giving money unless there's a coaching change, CPJ is either going to be fired or gracefully retire, and then we all get to experience the reality of where our football program actually sits in relation to all the others we compete against, with our ceiling being no different than Wake Forest's. And folks get what they want, but discover they don't like it.

In order to force the structural changes to the institute itself that are required to compete at football, including adding crip majors, taking 100% academic exceptions, and dropping tens of millions of dollars on player lifestyle swag, we will probably have to endure at least one if not two consecutive stints of Bill Lewis level program failure.
 
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