Balanced Approach

beej67 said:
It's the institute itself. Quit kidding yourself dude.
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I understand our challenges. Why then does CPJ fire every DC and get a new one then rather than say it's the best we can do? You dont think there is any possibility it's the HC that is the limiting factor with fielding a defense here?
 
Jacketblind said:
If your attempts to, "ruin every board with I told you so's" are as weak and pathetic as your game film break downs...bruh.
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If you want to argue with him, that's fine. But if you demotivate a guy who is one of the only people that post actual Tech football related content on this board, then you're a huge part of the problem with Tech football.

I think he's at least 80% accurate on his breakdowns. If he was 1% accurate it would still be more valuable than 99% of the content provided on this, and other, message boards.

LD: Keep up the breakdowns, even when we suck and it is miserable to do. Thanks.
 
I think we all hope to see progression and improvement from year to year and players/teams should show growth and improvement from year-to-year......that's good coaching. If something doesn't work, innovate. If someone doesn't fit your scheme, play to their strengths. The fact that we are consistently under-performing in several aspects (o-line, special teams, passing, and tempo) leads me to believe that there is a fundamental flaw in the program. Go back and watch film and you will see the same "problems" every year. I don't know what we do to fix those things, but I know it isn't getting better and we would be fools to think it will get better next year, simply based off history.
 
gte490v said:
If you want to argue with him, that's fine. But if you demotivate a guy who is one of the only people that post actual Tech football related content on this board, then you're a huge part of the problem with Tech football.

I think he's at least 80% accurate on his breakdowns. If he was 1% accurate it would still be more valuable than 99% of the content provided on this, and other, message boards.

LD: Keep up the breakdowns, even when we suck and it is miserable to do. Thanks.
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He isnt an overly sensitive fellow, he can handle being ragged on.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
A savvy politician would welcome that. He would say look, we are playing for the future now. This kid is the magical ingredient and we dont want him hurt trying to improvise like a freshman behind this OL. We want him for four full years without any health issues. We realize this year is going to be tough, and that's on us, but keep supporting the team through it and we will win big.

I don't think CPJ is the kind of guy who would say that sort of thing, though.
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That sounds exactly like the Schooner Tuna ad in Mr. Mom.
 
beej67 said:
In order to force the structural changes to the institute itself that are required to compete at football, including adding crip majors, taking 100% academic exceptions, and dropping tens of millions of dollars on player lifestyle swag, we will probably have to endure at least one if not two consecutive stints of Bill Lewis level program failure.
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I don't understand why you think that will happen, that the institute will change for the football program. That ship sailed about decades years ago. During the late 70's-early 80's, there was *serious* talk about dropping down to DII or less. We went 2-19 in 1980-1981! That's Ted-Roof-era-Duke bad.

Many people will tell you that Cremins' successes on the basketball court are what kept the GTAA alive and kept us in the 'major college sports' game. If not for Cremins, we never get to Ross.

I personally don't think we need 'structural changes to the institute itself' to win more often. We need minor tweaks – like making sure athletes are able to practice for the full amount of time allotted by the NCAA.

There's nothing unacademic about timing your academic schedule to create space for your students engage in important extracurriculars, and it's ridiculous our administration doesn't make this happen already. That's the kind of change that is realistically possible at Tech.
 
18in32 said:
I don't understand why you think that will happen
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I don't think it will happen. What I think will happen instead is that Bobby Dodd Stadium will be a ghost town while a subtalent team trots out there and gets the dogshit beat out of them.

like making sure athletes are able to practice for the full amount of time allotted by the NCAA.
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Then you need more majors. AKA structural changes to the institute.
 
beej67 said:
Then you need more majors. AKA structural changes to the institute.
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That’s not what he meant.

He was alluding to the simple fact our starting QB (who isn’t very good) has to leave practice once/week due to his class schedule.

Tech consistently shoots itself in the foot when it doesn’t have to.

Perhaps TQ and Camp don’t have that miscommunication problem if they were to practice more often....you know....like EVERY major cfb team does!

Here’s the article...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aj...umps-practice/DV0z5CPiBngwIi6AuqrCgL/amp.html
 
Longestdays said:
I think there is a mass psychology bandwagoning going on. The CPJ haters are hating. The others are tired of defending, don't have enough wins to defend, and are worried about going less than 6 and 6 as panic sets in. Losing ugly to Pitt was pretty low. No one wants to be wrong. If you can't beat them join them, right?

Facts as been talked about too much
  • The school is what it is and is even harder to recruit even outside of PJ's offense since the introduction of APR.
  • The school is getting better, but is not committed to being a factory - if you expect a factory, be prepared to be disappointed
  • The past AD set back the program several years and part of what CPJ is dealing with due to the lack of support
  • The salaries are what they are and they are not pretty and not enticing (going to have to take a chance on someone)
  • Even factories struggle (see FSU)
  • Defenses have to be installed and need some time unless you have a team of 4 stars (I am guilty of hoping for the moon in the first year)
  • Look at all the teams that got a new HC - was that the silver bullet? Sometimes it helped and many times it did not (FSU, Nebraska, Virginia,... but GSU looks to be doing better)
CPJ
  • His offense seems to be hated/look down on/even despised at times by the media, refs, and many fans (although I like it, I know many people hate it)
  • He is both OC and HC. I think the program really needs a OC and a HC as doing both is too much for one person. I think this really needs to change.
  • Special teams have not been good and this is ongoing. I think this is a OC/HC thing.
  • The QB really makes this O go and if the QB is not going the program will not go. TQM is a good athlete and errors a lot on trying to keep the ball or not forcing the pitch. He can pitch, but I am learning he does not force the pitch like JT and or TW.
  • The defenses have not been good. I want to believe this to be a right DC thing but the jury is still out on the recent higher.
The bubble of having a special year appears to be popped. There is still a chance to go bowling and now is not the time to quit on the team or coach. Yes, I know some are tired of defending and are afraid maybe the haters are right. I feel the same way. Don't be afraid. Don't give in to the an unknown future.

I was yelling at the TV and CPJ to put TO in mainly do to the lack of TQM in following the system and forcing the pitches. (TQM I love you and you gave your all yesterday and it was not all your fault). I'll have to go back and see if I was wrong about the pitch hesitations, but I saw the hesitations against USF. I would error on the side of a system player in the scale of TW to Vad. Go for system over passing right now (although i wanted to see the reverse and it was stuffed.... don't pay me millions to coach) .

I am going to take the season as it comes NOW with the only hopes of making a bowl. CPJ is a good man and deserves to go out better. I wonder if a team gives up when the fans give up... I sure hope not.

If we change coaches be prepared for some tough years. GT's strength of schedule is very hard and if per chance we find someone who can do something good... they are going to bolt quicker than quick for more money. I can't wait to reply to every thread and try and ruin every board with I told you so like the CPJ haters. I plan to make that my mission in life.

I want CPJ to have one more year with JG at QB and go out on top.
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If no change is made, ticket sales will suffer, apathy will be stronger and the program will fall further.
 
@atlanta jacket you assume GT is not going bowling. This may or may not be true. I remember a heckler that was heckling PJ and me (yes me for cheering to much) at a game in 2016. CPJ and JT drowned him out by the end of the game and end of the year.

Got to let the season play out more before fans trash our program. There are many desperate for this to be a bad season. I am not one of them... concerned, yes, but I want our men to win!
 
18in32 said:
I don't understand why you think that will happen, that the institute will change for the football program. That ship sailed about decades years ago. During the late 70's-early 80's, there was *serious* talk about dropping down to DII or less. We went 2-19 in 1980-1981! That's Ted-Roof-era-Duke bad.

Many people will tell you that Cremins' successes on the basketball court are what kept the GTAA alive and kept us in the 'major college sports' game. If not for Cremins, we never get to Ross.

I personally don't think we need 'structural changes to the institute itself' to win more often. We need minor tweaks – like making sure athletes are able to practice for the full amount of time allotted by the NCAA.

There's nothing unacademic about timing your academic schedule to create space for your students engage in important extracurriculars, and it's ridiculous our administration doesn't make this happen already. That's the kind of change that is realistically possible at Tech.
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Willing to bet that 80 & 81 would have been better if we had given the job to the best candidate instead of some pompous jerk only because he attended GT.

Things like that have nothing to do with any academic restrictions, beyond the stupidity and arrogance of some.

And almost 40 years later some are still willing to make the same mistakes for the same dumb azz reasons. And will still make the same whiney azz, elitist excuses.
 
18in32 said:
I don't understand why you think that will happen, that the institute will change for the football program. That ship sailed about decades years ago. During the late 70's-early 80's, there was *serious* talk about dropping down to DII or less. We went 2-19 in 1980-1981! That's Ted-Roof-era-Duke bad.

Many people will tell you that Cremins' successes on the basketball court are what kept the GTAA alive and kept us in the 'major college sports' game. If not for Cremins, we never get to Ross.

I personally don't think we need 'structural changes to the institute itself' to win more often. We need minor tweaks – like making sure athletes are able to practice for the full amount of time allotted by the NCAA.

There's nothing unacademic about timing your academic schedule to create space for your students engage in important extracurriculars, and it's ridiculous our administration doesn't make this happen already. That's the kind of change that is realistically possible at Tech.
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Longestdays has been hammering the pitch for weeks now and today got a glimpse of why we can’t do it LOL
 
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