Big 10 ded.

There is risk in everything we do. The odds are that on average every large scale football game possibly produces one death by car accident. Certainly, sitting next to fans increases the risk of any flu or cold and that kills older people all the time. Not having fans in any measurable quantity in the stands is believable to me, but if you test regularly and get your kids to buy in on staying away from others, I don't see any reason you can't play. The worst would be having to take two weeks off just like the Marlins did (or replace your team like they did and then come and win four straight!)
 
Helluva Entrepreneur said:
I think now, it's more about putting the breaks on the players trying to organize and demand a revenue share, with COVID as the excuse. There's no letting that genie back into the bottle after COVID.

These players have some leverage right now with COVID. They can make demands and then actually sit out the season if they dont get them, knowing that they can just claim "health concerns" because of COVID and still retain their scholarship and the year's eligibility. Add in all of the social justice b.s. going on and it's a fight that the NCAA doesn't want to engage in right now.

I wish we were going to have football, but I know if we do, it is going to be a half-assed season with probable missed games due to positive COVID cases that are bound to happen, players and teams sitting out, and is going to be clouded by the social justice narrative. "GREEDY NCAA EXPLOITS UNPAID PLAYERS DURING PANDEMIC" is not a good look, especially once some players inevitably do get sick. Even if the players and coaches are completely willing to take the chance and play, the situation will be twisted and used against the NCAA and it will ultimately be bad for CFB. I'm convinced once we go down the road of giving in to players demanding revenue share, college football as we know it, is toast.
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I have read nothing about them not losing a year of eligibility or guarantees that scholarships will be honored on a universal basis. If the establishment elects to cancel the season, the ethical thing to do would be to honor all scholarships if that is affordable; but for athletic programs on the brink of survival I can see them canceling the scholarship (some could end up canceling programs). If the establishment decides to play the season and the athlete decides not to participate, then why honor their scholarship (I'm talking all sports here)? And under no circumstances should a player who decides not to participate be granted another year of eligibility, if it isn't a redshirt it is just somebody deciding not to play. No sport should be forced to reduce its future recruiting classes because a bunch of princesses decided on their own not to play this year.
 
aeromech said:
According to Dan Patrick, Big-10 & PAC-10 cancelling the season. ACC & Big-12 on the fence. SEC going ahead. I think we're seeing who the real college football conference is.
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If all other conferences cancel and the SEC says "F* it we're playing"... that would be pretty gangster. I certainly would tip my cap to them for staying true to their priorities.
 
coit said:
We've discussed it before, but here's a recent article talking about how football was scheduled during the last pandemic. The scheduling was pretty informal, and a lot of it happened late into the fall as the pandemic wound down.

www.espn.com

Football historians talk about the game in a previous pandemic

We talked to historians from the pro football and college football halls of fame about similarities they've seen between the 1918 pandemic and this one when it comes to the game.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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Why didn't you just post on your recollections from those years rather than linking these 3rd hand sources for us to read?
 
00Burdell said:
Well that trial balloon's maiden flight was about as long as the Hindenburg's
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Hindenburg spent 3 days to cross the ocean and crashed on approach.

It's maiden flight was uneventful. (Frankfurt-Rio I think)
 
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If this happens we need to attack, attack, attack the transfer portal. Atlanta is home to a ton of those young men. Make the NCAA come to terms with its hypocrisy when they can't justify mass-denial-of-waivers.
 
aeromech said:
I have read nothing about them not losing a year of eligibility or guarantees that scholarships will be honored on a universal basis. If the establishment elects to cancel the season, the ethical thing to do would be to honor all scholarships if that is affordable; but for athletic programs on the brink of survival I can see them canceling the scholarship (some could end up canceling programs). If the establishment decides to play the season and the athlete decides not to participate, then why honor their scholarship (I'm talking all sports here)? And under no circumstances should a player who decides not to participate be granted another year of eligibility, if it isn't a redshirt it is just somebody deciding not to play. No sport should be forced to reduce its future recruiting classes because a bunch of princesses decided on their own not to play this year.
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I dont disagree, personally, but telling players to "play during a pandemic or lose your scholarship" is not going to be good optics. There will be a lot of (very loud) people crying about how that is "unjust and unfair" to take away a bunch of poor, high risk, African American athletes' education if they dont risk their lives to play and make the colleges money. Agree with that position or not, I guarantee the activists already have the blog articles, tweets, and hashtags ready to go. Lebron and the activist celeb crew all get on board and then CFB joins NBA doing tshirt slogans and protests, and probably some nice lawsuits and organized player boycotts.

Also, spring athletes got another year of eligibility back, so no reason to think football wouldn't do the same. And yes, this is going to destroy a bunch of smaller schools financially no matter what happens.
 
Flywheel said:
If this happens we need to attack, attack, attack the transfer portal. Atlanta is home to a ton of those young men. Make the NCAA come to terms with its hypocrisy when they can't justify mass-denial-of-waivers.
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If I were a B1G player I’d be entering my name into the transfer portal immediately. Teams in other P5 conferences will only have so many spots available and the NCAA will drag their feet before finally rubber stamping waivers that cripple one conference. Their current coaches will welcome them back if they end up needing to stay.
 
Helluva Entrepreneur said:
I dont disagree, personally, but telling players to "play during a pandemic or lose your scholarship" is not going to be good optics. There will be a lot of (very loud) people crying about how that is "unjust and unfair" to take away a bunch of poor, high risk, African American athletes' education if they dont risk their lives to play and make the colleges money. Agree with that position or not, I guarantee the activists already have the blog articles, tweets, and hashtags ready to go. Lebron and the activist celeb crew all get on board and then CFB joins NBA doing tshirt slogans and protests, and probably some nice lawsuits and organized player boycotts.

Also, spring athletes got another year of eligibility back, so no reason to think football wouldn't do the same. And yes, this is going to destroy a bunch of smaller schools financially no matter what happens.
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Spring athletes got another year after their season was cancelled, they did not get another year after simply deciding not to play; to me that is a huge difference. I also don't see much momentum for a player boycott for a former teammate who voluntarily walked away from the team while the rest of the team went to practice, played the season, and did the work; but I wouldn't have believed half the things I'm watching today 10 years ago either. Activist or not, the funding for scholarships has to come from somewhere, particularly for room and board. The P5 programs can likely absorb that for a year; but can the non-P5 schools fund all the women's sports athletes with everything shutdown? On this issue people tend to start with a myopic focus on P5 football; but this encompasses Div-II women's soccer too. The local college here threatened to cancel one of it's primary sports (men's hockey) here a couple of months ago until a GoFundMe site raised enough money to keep it going; I'm not sure how many schools can pull that off.
 
Zaac2000 said:
The problem will be solved by the NCAA stepping in and cancelling fall sports. SEC will be ticked off. The Power 5 conferences(plus ND) come together and create a new league with a REAL 16 team playoffs for their 65 teams. Everyone is happy.
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LOL. The ncaa is hiding in the corner sadly licking the achy spot where it's balls used to be.
 
The players are powerful. I think they will be emboldened if the B1G changes course at this point (regardless of whether that is true reason).
 
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