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You wish. The only thing you win at is losing my friend.
TheJacket wins the thread
TheJacket wins the thread
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Acts of desperation often end this way. I'm still waiting for you to clarify how I didn't back up my point.
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I think I am agreeing with BoR here. The sophmores, juniors, and seniors on this team all have big game experience -- and experience playing in a bowl where people actually watch the game, while our team does not have this experience. I trust CPJ, and feel he will have the team ready -- but LSU has been in bigger games -- and we have not, at least in recent memory.
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Nowhere in your original post did you say "historically we are arrogant going into bowl games" which is an irrelevant statement unto itself.
You stated a fact - we're playing the defending national champions. My counter-point continues to be: So?
They're not who they were, we're not playing the team that won the national championship. We're playing the DEFENDING national champions that are not playing well right now.
Their 2007 incarnation deserves respect for the national title - not this year's.
I think we have an okay shot to beat them comfortably based on this season's results and I don't see any reason to believe that "experience in a national championship game" will change that.
You stated a fact - we're playing the defending national champions. My counter-point continues to be: So?
They're not who they were, we're not playing the team that won the national championship. We're playing the DEFENDING national champions that are not playing well right now.
Their 2007 incarnation deserves respect for the national title - not this year's.
I think we have an okay shot to beat them comfortably based on this season's results and I don't see any reason to believe that "experience in a national championship game" will change that.
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Jacket, how badly can you miss a point?
I said we are arrogant going into bowl games in my very first post. I agreed with the original poster. I said we should have respect for LSU.
My point about our fan base being arrogant is debateable, I get that.
But if you are going to say "SO!" in response to me pointing out that LSU are the defending national champs, then certainly don't also argue that as a fan base we are NOT arrogant.
Give me a break. You are proving my original point that we as a fanbase are arrogant.
I said we are arrogant going into bowl games in my very first post. I agreed with the original poster. I said we should have respect for LSU.
My point about our fan base being arrogant is debateable, I get that.
But if you are going to say "SO!" in response to me pointing out that LSU are the defending national champs, then certainly don't also argue that as a fan base we are NOT arrogant.
Give me a break. You are proving my original point that we as a fanbase are arrogant.
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:laugher: It's like you want so badly for me to be proving your point for you and it's not happening, but you keep saying it anyway.
Your original post:
You never said "We are arrogant going into bowl games." or any variation of that statement.
On your last statement, yes I am standing by what I said. We're not arrogant because we don't think that it matters that LSU is the defending national champion. Experience in a big time bowl game isn't going to mean anything in this game, period. If you have some sort of logic behind that idea to explain it to me, then that's great and fantastic - I'd love to hear it.
Georgia's got **** tons of experience in beating us in nationally televised games - we had absolutely zero experience in beating them on any level. Did it matter?
If your opinion is that that is different than having "big bowl experience" then I'd love to hear your reasoning, but what you're saying right now just makes no sense.
If they beat us, there will be six million reasons in the world for it before "experience from big bowls" is one of them.
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FWIW, I think we are going to run senseless over LSU and win by more than 10 points. Am I arrogant, sure, but we've got good reason to be.
We also had good reason to be in 2000 and at halftime I was so drunk thinking we were going to crush LSU only to watch Rohan Davey single handedly destroy us in the 2nd half.
We also had good reason to be in 2000 and at halftime I was so drunk thinking we were going to crush LSU only to watch Rohan Davey single handedly destroy us in the 2nd half.
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You're right i didn't say exactly that. That's such a far fetched drawn conclusion of what I did say. There's no way possible that is exactly what the original poster and i were even discussing. It can't even be inferred. I should be sent off to Thailand and beaten with a cane.
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Once again, I am dumber for having kept on posting.
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Still stretching. It wasn't implied, it wasn't anywhere in your original statement, nor in any conversation between you and gt23eric before I responded your post. You were saying that right now we are being arrogant about this game and compared it to one game in 2000.You're right i didn't say exactly that. That's such a far fetched drawn conclusion of what I did say. There's no way possible that is exactly what the original poster and i were even discussing. It can't even be inferred. I should be sent off to Thailand and beaten with a cane.
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Once again, I am dumber for having kept on posting.
Retro-active implication doesn't apply, sorry.
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If that sort of thing is your bag, you should check out Singapore.
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Give me a break.
my response:
So its not implied that we were discussing that as a fan base we are pretty arrogant going into bowls? Or maybe I should have clarified a wee bit more and said this bowl? Maybe against LSU in the Peach bowl we happen to be an arrogant fan base. Seriously. If its not implied you're being retarded. So its either implied, or you are being retarded.
Now my response that fueled this debate really should have been reworded because I agree with you.
I agree with your first two sentences. But I feel as confident in our teams abilities as I did in 2000. I felt very confident then as we were ranked about the same and playing an LSU team that was not ranked as high as we were. We also just got finished demolishing UGA moreso than we did this year.
That said, your last sentence is contradicting to your first. If you're confident in your teams abilities and you aren;t arrogant then why make a statement cutting down the other team? You could have left that out and I would have nodded with approval. Not that you give a sh*t.
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At this point I'll settle for being taken out back and shot in the head. I don't know why, but I have this addiction to being drug into stupid pissing contests that don't make a damn bit of sense. Maybe its because I have a propensity for pointing out when people say dumb things.
Don't hate me because I'm honest, love me because I'm right.
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A question arises in my mind over all this. If the phrase "Defending National Champion" has any meaning at all, then why aren't the "Defending National Champions" automatically given the #1 spot in the pre-season?
You don't have to answer this, I already know why. But it raises the point that "Defending National Champions" really doesn't mean jack after 12 games have been played and the current team is 7-5. It would really only carry weight if the team was no worse than 11-1 and playing in the MNC again.
You don't have to answer this, I already know why. But it raises the point that "Defending National Champions" really doesn't mean jack after 12 games have been played and the current team is 7-5. It would really only carry weight if the team was no worse than 11-1 and playing in the MNC again.
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I think the "defending national champions" is emphasized just because it sounds impressive. You are honored the entire next season by referring to yourselves as this as well as having others do the same. IMO it's kind of like people who have a doctorate, don't need it for their job, but still insist on being called "Doctor _______"(btw, not trying to piss anyone off in here if this applies to you - I realize and respect your hard work).
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No, making a reference to two individual bowl games does not in any way imply a blanket statement on Tech's bowl history. If you pointed out similarities between our win over UGAg this year and 1998, I'd never say that you were making commentary on the historical trends of the rivalry.
Because I'm not cutting them down? I think there's a good chance we win the game comfortably. I also think there's a chance that LSU will win the game, but I don't think that .001% of the reason it happens would have anything to do with LSU's status as defending national champions or anything that entails.
The only reason I have any interest or concern for their national title last year is that it sounds good to finish off my rundown of our season with "And a win in a big time bowl game against the division national champion an an SEC heavyweight."
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My principal in elementary school did this when I got to like 3rd grade. But she got legitimately angry at children for not calling her "Doctor _______."
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Reminds me of a kiwi prick I used to work with. He got is license, and then later left to go work with a client. One of my coworkers sent him a memo addressed:
He got this response back from the twit:
Every memo we sent him after that was addressed:
:laugher: What a douche.
