iPods are destroying the ability to coach

refrigeratormover said:
New Dumbass post of the new year!

Hey, I have an idea. Let's jump up and down and high five the fans and go nuts and use energy 3 hours before the game, yeah great idea.
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New dumbass post of the year! If we get tired during the team walk, iPods are the last of the worries.

JacketDan said:
Don't forget they should also spend as much mental energy and anxiety before the game so that mentally they have already exhausted their body before they step on the field of competition.
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Truth.

JacketDan said:
At what level did you play? Let's not compare the physical needs of club team lacrosse to FBS, that's like throwing a bullet and shooting it.
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At what level did you play?
 
The difference in physical stress between what Phelps had to do to his body, and what Morgan Burnette had to do to his, is much wider than between me, a mere club lacrosse player, and burnette. To try to use Phelps as an example is incredibly off base. There may be one or two athletes in the world that can do that.

While it was just "club" there was a considerable physical demand involved. We practiced 5 days a week 2 hours a day, we had morning workouts, and played two are more games a week. And just because it's not a varsity sport doesn't mean it's not hard. I, like most any athletic high school student, could have gone to a some smaller d-2 or d-3 school for football, lacrosse, or soccer and been "varsity".

Long story short Michael Phelps and what he did was a bad reference to the situation, but I agree that what me or most above average athletes do is not on the level of d1 football.
 
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Never seemed to hurt Miami, Oklahoma, BYU, Penn State, Clemson, and Notre Dame in the 80's
 
No, and I'll tell you why.

The AD would have to pay for all those batteries. Imagine what 6-8 D batteries would cost for 100 players!
 
GTMensLax&SoccerD1Soon! said:
They need to be rememebering the play book, rehersing what they saw on film, and getting mentally prepared for war.
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Great, now our kids are going to walking down YJA with their play books open and studying.

Sometimes it absolutely amazes me some of the ignorant comments made on these boards.

We are in a world of hurt if our kids need to cram plays in 2 hours before the game
 
GTMensLax&SoccerD1Soon! said:
The difference in physical stress between what Phelps had to do to his body, and what Morgan Burnette had to do to his, is much wider than between me, a mere club lacrosse player, and burnette. To try to use Phelps as an example is incredibly off base. There may be one or two athletes in the world that can do that.

While it was just "club" there was a considerable physical demand involved. We practiced 5 days a week 2 hours a day, we had morning workouts, and played two are more games a week. And just because it's not a varsity sport doesn't mean it's not hard. I, like most any athletic high school student, could have gone to a some smaller d-2 or d-3 school for football, lacrosse, or soccer and been "varsity".

Long story short Michael Phelps and what he did was a bad reference to the situation, but I agree that what me or most above average athletes do is not on the level of d1 football.
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So, you never got tired towards the end of a game because you were young?

That must be why we never notice college players getting tired near the end of games in either football or basketball.:rolleyes:

Either
a) You have a bad memory
b) Lacrosse is not as physically demanding in comparison as you imagine it.
c) You are in much better shape than the average NCAA FB player.

Defensive players in particular often are worn out at the end of games as are RBs.

Linemen on the other hand usually are in still in good shape at the end of games after all that pillow-fighting they do within five yards of the line of scrimmage.;)


P.S.
The last part is TIC, but it is worth noting that these guys are optimized for certain tasks. Receivers and cornerbacks could very well run around continuously just like soccer or lacrosse with little ill effect. But if you are bulky, powerful, and explosive, then your tank may not be as big as a marathon runner.
 
GTMensLax&SoccerD1Soon! said:
To some extent yes, but running non-stop for 60 minutes at full speed while someone is beating you with a metal stick is hard no matter what level of sport it is. And i was not impying it's any harder, but physically, it's on a comprable level. And it was not about me or my lacrosse so much as it was about the fact that wasting energy is not a HUGE deal. Those kids stay up all night playing madden and talkin to girls and all that crap just like any other college kid.

Like i said, they should be mentally preparing during that time, and if the Ipod helps then who cares if they have it...
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Sorry, but I have to call BS on this, at least to some extent. If you really ran non stop for 60 minutes you would have had to be a middie on a team with no subs.
 
I never played lacrosse but football never wore me out like basketball did. That constant going and changing directions wore me out quicker than anything.
 
go back and read what the silver fox said about this. he said specifically that Tech should not jump up and down and hoot and holler b/c they will save their energy for the game.

but what did he know? he was only a genius

sometime you guys amaze me with your insolent know-it-all bullcrap
 
JacketDan said:
Don't forget they should also spend as much mental energy and anxiety before the game so that mentally they have already exhausted their body before they step on the field of competition.
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Here's the problem!!! What the team needs before game time is half hour of meditation to trans music so that they can calm their nerves and focus their inner self. Nameste!

Next, to improve balance and flexibility, CPJ should have them incorporate a mix of yoga, thai chi & classical ballet into routine workout sessions.

Third, we should have a team of feng shui experts analyze the locker and workout rooms to make sure the team is getting its chakras in alignment.

Fourth, let's quit talking about uniform colors and start discussing auras. Everyone should know that dark blue is an aura of fear, whereas shiny gold is one of power. That should settle it!
 
ncjacket said:
Sorry, but I have to call BS on this, at least to some extent. If you really ran non stop for 60 minutes you would have had to be a middie on a team with no subs.
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the difference between levels in a sport is the difference between resting for a few seconds and not being able to do so.

so while he says "running around for 60 minutes" he really means "sort of running, mostly jogging and freqently sitting back when you could go harder"

at a higher level, there is no time to 'sit back' you have to give it all the whole time, and if tired, come out for a few plays.

this makes for a significant difference in conditioning requirements, despite Lax's opinion. In soccer, its the same, no built in breaks but you sort of take your own during the game a little.

in football, there are built in breaks for the huddle and so many timeouts, but then again, we are talking about 300 pound guys running 4.7 or 4.8.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
Fourth, let's quit talking about uniform colors and start discussing auras. Everyone should know that dark blue is an aura of fear, whereas shiny gold is one of power. That should settle it!
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what does a "urine" colored aura signify? Isn't that where the expression "scared yellow" came from?
 
Buzz, my point is, in lax if you're a defenseman or attack, there are portions of the game where you're basically watching the other end of the field. You're definitely not running at that point unless you're being subbed. If you're a middie you go both ways and work much harder, but teams also sub out middies frequently. So there are either built in rest periods, or you come out of the game to rest.
 
ncjacket said:
Buzz, my point is, in lax if you're a defenseman or attack, there are portions of the game where you're basically watching the other end of the field. You're definitely not running at that point unless you're being subbed. If you're a middie you go both ways and work much harder, but teams also sub out middies frequently. So there are either built in rest periods, or you come out of the game to rest.
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i am concurring with you, and disputing what Lax (i mean GTMensLacrosse&soccer....too long) said.
 
gt7282c@prism said:
Here's the problem!!! What the team needs before game time is half hour of meditation to trans music so that they can calm their nerves and focus their inner self. Nameste!
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This isn't some new age, hippy bull crap. Mental anxiety raises your adrenaline levels which creates a real physical reaction without exertion. Have you ever played a sport and noticed that you can go forever in practice, but come gametime you're tired more quickly? It's the adrenal reaction and the only way to combat it is to try and stay as relaxed as possible until it's time to get your adrenaline pumping.

Next, to improve balance and flexibility, CPJ should have them incorporate a mix of yoga, thai chi & classical ballet into routine workout sessions.
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You do realize the team has had yoga sessions before to work flexibility?
 
JacketDan said:
This isn't some new age, hippy bull crap. Mental anxiety raises your adrenaline levels which creates a real physical reaction without exertion. Have you ever played a sport and noticed that you can go forever in practice, but come gametime you're tired more quickly? It's the adrenal reaction and the only way to combat it is to try and stay as relaxed as possible until it's time to get your adrenaline pumping.

You do realize the team has had yoga sessions before to work flexibility?
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While my post was meant mostly TIC, there is at least a small amount of seriousness behind it. Of course I'm aware that athletes incorporate yoga / pillates stretching techniques into their workouts. They just don't do all meditatey and chanty with the "Ohm" and "Namaste" crap.

I also do realize the mental anxiety aspect. With that in mind, ipods or other musical destractions are probably a good thing as they give the player something to focus on other than worry. Conventional wisdom also holds that deep nasal breathing together with visualizing yourself perfectly executing the task at hand, calms nerves and improves performance. So, in a way, it's sorta like meditation, I guess.
 
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