RB's

ncjacket said:
Uh, Peeples had 12 carries last year and Wright 4...maybe a little early to pass judgement?
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Thats why I said "they haven't shown us yet", but I'm not going to say they are Homerun hitters just based on their HS highlight tape. When they do it on the field I'll give credit where credit is due.
 
SMoney said:
Nobody responding to this at all? Or is this a "let's not talk about it" type of deal? Feel free to pm if you want to keep it off the public board...
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PM me too if anyone has any information on this. However I think this is (at best) a rumor, and more likely just a poorly worded initial post.
 
If AA can prove to be as good as blocker as Cox it, it will help us balance the offense. Defenses started cheating over knowing that Cox isn't much of a big play threat. Having a guy like AA back there will help.

Should be interesting.
 
hiveredtech said:
Roddy is fast but not elusive? He is actually more elusive than Dwyer or Nesbitt. Matter of fact, he has the fastest short shuttle time (indicates quick feet) of anyone on the team, and the best in the state of Georgia at the combine out of high school...a 4.02.

You have to remember that where Roddy gets the ball on the pitch outside that the DB's and LB's have good angles on him coming from the middle of the field. When a back gets a quick hit up the middle that are typically fooling people that are flat-footed and break through...many times after breaking a tackle at or just past the line.

Go back and look at Roddy's high school film when he was the single set back and ran between the tackles...he can bob and weave with the best of them.
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Let me say this first, I love Roddy and know he will have a great career at GT. He doesn't fumble, he blocks well on the perimeter, and he has good body lean to finish his runs off. He also runs good routes out of the backfield and is a receiving threat. However, Hivered you support my point....you have to go back to his high school film to see him make people miss in the open field. Nothing aginst Roddy but if I could pick a ball carrier with only 1 man to beat in the open field, I would rather JD or a healthy Nesbitt have the ball.
 
JWE37 said:
Let me say this first, I love Roddy and know he will have a great career at GT. He doesn't fumble, he blocks well on the perimeter, and he has good body lean to finish his runs off. He also runs good routes out of the backfield and is a receiving threat. However, Hivered you support my point....you have to go back to his high school film to see him make people miss in the open field. Nothing aginst Roddy but if I could pick a ball carrier with only 1 man to beat in the open field, I would rather JD or a healthy Nesbitt have the ball.
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Hope you mean he never fumbles on "offense" ;)
 
JWE37 said:
Does anyone have any insight on how our RB rotations will look for 2009. I imagine Dwyer (B-back) and Roddy (A-back) are locked in. Where do Anthony Allen and Lucas Cox fit in? Does Dwyer get reps at A-back now that Cox, Watson, and Allen can play B-back?
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I would bet nobody is locked in.
 
From the horses mouth:

PJ addressed this issue, I believe it was one of his press conferences or radio shows--mid season, or a little bit later. Some enterprising soul could look this up, but I'll just tell you what I remember:

1. Said Cox was playing out of position at A-back, but said he had to get him on the field because he was one of the best backs. Expected him to move back to B-back next year.

2. Said if Allen is one of the best backs he has next year, he will have to look at how he could get both guys on the field next year.

Given that PJ has ALREADY played a guy "out-of-positon" because he wanted his best players on the field, and given that he's indicated he may want to do so next year, here's how I see it shaking out:

We are DEEP at B-back. PJ won't waste that talent: Why deep-six Watson and Cox behind Dwyer and Allen, when 3 of 4 of those guys have A back skills? That wastes talent and does not develop depth. Watson and Cox are very capable back ups at B-back.

So of Dwyer & Allen, who do you cross train? I say Allen. Dwyer can hit a homerun on any play, so his touches need to be maximized. Allen played B-back in HS, and can slide back to B-back if Dwyer gets hurt. Watson & Cox provide very capable rests for Dwyer. Kelly provides depth.

The other argument one could make is that Dwyer has the better skill set for A back. He has blinding speed, he can block (made several nice ones for Josh on QB draws or passes), and he's shown good hands. But in the end our offense is a homerun offense, so Dwyer needs to be on the field more than anyone.

Of course, this is all speculation. It will be determined by who earns what and who stays healthy.
 
gt02 said:
PM me too if anyone has any information on this. However I think this is (at best) a rumor, and more likely just a poorly worded initial post.
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I don't think anyone is avoiding the subject just that no one is sure. I thought I heard they scoped him to clean things up some. Can't find an article though so it may be a senior moment.
 
The anti Josh stuff is retarded.

Allen will impress for sure, but look folks, #21 is very special and has an extra gear that very few have. He's the only imo back to be fairly compared to ELI throughout our history.

Cox will play plenty and should bee considered among very elite company as a semi starter. Don't forget his hands!

JWE37 has it right! Of course, the actual rotation will be much less important than the O line improvement.

The combo of Thomas and Hill can transform this team and yes Josh CAN get the rock to em! Of course, their talents will be much less important than our O line improvement.

Did I say our O line improvement is important!?
 
GoldZ said:
The anti Josh stuff is retarded.

Allen will impress for sure, but look folks, #21 is very special and has an extra gear that very few have. He's the only imo back to be fairly compared to ELI throughout our history.

Cox will play plenty and should bee considered among very elite company as a semi starter. Don't forget his hands!

JWE37 has it right! Of course, the actual rotation will be much less important than the O line improvement.

The combo of Thomas and Hill can transform this team and yes Josh CAN get the rock to em! Of course, their talents will be much less important than our O line improvement.

Did I say our O line improvement is important!?
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Check the thread "So I talked with a football player yesterday..." at the end, some stuff about the OL there.
 
JWE37 said:
Let me say this first, I love Roddy and know he will have a great career at GT. He doesn't fumble, he blocks well on the perimeter, and he has good body lean to finish his runs off. He also runs good routes out of the backfield and is a receiving threat. However, Hivered you support my point....you have to go back to his high school film to see him make people miss in the open field. Nothing aginst Roddy but if I could pick a ball carrier with only 1 man to beat in the open field, I would rather JD or a healthy Nesbitt have the ball.
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We will just disagree with this...even though facts support that Roddy has much quicker feet than either of the other two.

The problem is you are evaluating players that are given the ball in completely different scenarios.

JD is not a "juke" guy...that is also why LSU was successful stopping him from long runs when he got past the line of scrimmage by chopping down on him instead of standard form tackling. He uses change of speed and burst to beat people...not lateral movement or "juking".

When Roddy gets the ball his purpose is to hit the sideline as hard as he can and go. Option is new to him as he was a single set back just like JD....he took toss sweeps or ran between the tackles in high school. Roddy is starting to learn to cut back some to get some extra yardage...but he is also tapping the sideline with a LB and a DB coming after him that all have the right angle on him.

Heck...look at Roddy's kickoff returns also...excellent feet shown there.
 
On Roddy, last year was his first season playing in games, where as JD and JN got some game experience the year before. Not a ton, but enough to get used to the game speed. To compare RJ to JD and JN isn't helping to make any point. It was obvious for a lot of the year, RJ was still a little hesitant. He obviously got more comfortable later in the year. He'll keep getting better, he's only a Redshirt Sophomore next year, remember.

CPJ has said that B-back is the feature back in his O. Because of this, I don't think JD moves except for maybe spot plays at A-back. I believe everything y'all are saying about AA, but I'll caution, how much game experience does he have under his belt compared to JD.
Here's my :twocents:,

B-back
Dwyer (Jr)
Cox (Jr)
Watson (Fr)

A-back
Jones (So)
Wright (So)
Lockhart (Fr)

A-back
Allen (Jr)
Peeples (So)
Smith (Sr)
 
I don't see Drummond mentioned much. Is it assumed that hes R-shirting?
 
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