AJ Green apologists

GiveEmHellJackets said:
Get Nesbitt to sign the shock collar and I'll give you two aquarium tickets and a ham sandwich for it.

Because I want to be a baller.
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I'll give you this plus an iPod.

Edit: scratch that, just remembered I gave the iPod to someone else. Can't remember who....
 
AJ Green is a dumbass. Is there any other point to this thread?
 
GTCrew said:
Whats an AJ Green high school jersey worth? Its a Georgie jersey with AJ Green on the back. If AJ Green was playing for Valdosta State his jersey is worth less than they paid for it.

And he gets a full ride, and everything he will need resource wise (coaching, training, medically, etc) to make him a multimillionaire. He is getting a priceless high profile opportunity worth millions if he takes proper advantage of it.

Its like residency. The doctors pay is negligible, but the training and opportunity is priceless.
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+1
 
gtpi said:
imo i dont think that 'they dont' get payed as others have mentioned...

they get a full ride...... books tuition
they get housing
they get food
they get personal trainers
they have free health care
they may have other insurance opportunities
they have tutors
they have the backing of the athletic department.
they are often preened an fawned over
they being jocks have a shot at some of the best babes on campus
they have name recognition after they graduate which could open doors not available to the regular student. etc etc etc
Lots of poon


sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.

that being said....

i think that a good bit of the profits goes into facilities, recruiting and coaching staff. i have not seen too many poor head coaches... have you?

it would be nice if they were all payed a stipend/spending money but where does it come from?

how about the nfl/nba/baseball/espn/cbs/nbc etc all contribute to a fund that is split up equally between the athletes. prorated by the amount of revenue they generate. of course their would have to be a minimum amount.

wrt greene .... why is he special? none of his 100 plus teammates had the option of having an extra 100,500,1000 to spend. why should he? i am for the average player who does things by the rules not the pampered super star.
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Added to the list
 
GTCrew said:
But if the issue is teams making millions off star players, does $80 bucks a week pocket money really have relevance? That seems preposterous to me.
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I doubt $80/wk stipend is irrelevant to the guys who would get it. I got a stipend in that range in grad school and I was extremely happy to get it.

College football as we know it can't exist if players are being compensated related to revenue.
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When the coaches are making millions, and when other kids in charity sports are getting full scholarships, it doesn't seem out of line to me to give the players some spending money. "Compensated relative to revenue" isn't anything I've advocated, and some pocket money for the players is not going to be apocalyptic for the sport.
 
TechPhi97 said:
Come to think of it, maybe the person that negotiates our radio rights should get paid those radio rights fees, and the person that came up with the seat license idea should get those fees as well. We need to spread it all out. How does the guy that cooks in the AA cafeteria get paid?
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All of the guys who do all of those things are paid, and paid market value.
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
Athletes are "paid market value" too in the sense that they can either accept or reject their "job" and its "pay."
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There's no market, there's a "take it or leave it" monopoly.

You might as well say sales taxes are voluntary. If you don't want to pay sales tax, don't buy anything. Therefore, anyone who buys anything approves of the the sales tax rate, and anyone who wants to change it is a moron.
 
mm42 said:
There's no market, there's a "take it or leave it" monopoly.

You might as well say sales taxes are voluntary. If you don't want to pay sales tax, don't buy anything. Therefore, anyone who buys anything approves of the the sales tax rate, and anyone who wants to change it is a moron.
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Yes that's right, playing football is a necessity in life, like buying things is. :rolleyes:
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
Yes that's right, playing football is a necessity in life, like buying things is. :rolleyes:
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You can buy everything online and avoid sales tax. You can barter with people and grow your own food. The alternatives for "buying things" are as viable as the alternatives for "playing football when you are 18-22".
 
mm42 said:
You can buy everything online and avoid sales tax. You can barter with people and grow your own food. The alternatives for "buying things" are as viable as the alternatives for "playing football when you are 18-22".
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Acquiring goods for survivial is a necessity. Playing football is not. Everybody acquires goods. Relatively very few play football. You can't see that?
 
mm42 said:
There's no market, there's a "take it or leave it" monopoly.

You might as well say sales taxes are voluntary. If you don't want to pay sales tax, don't buy anything. Therefore, anyone who buys anything approves of the the sales tax rate, and anyone who wants to change it is a moron.
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And how is it different than any other internship? Every internship is a take it or leave it situation. The same applies to scholarship athletes. They get free books, free room, free meals, free tuition. The sum total of that "salary" is more than I made as a surgical intern working 120 hour weeks. I paid my medical school for the privilege of getting scutted out for learning opportunities. The SAs compensation is to market their skills, many times on a national stage, and earn a degree in the event that they don't make it to the NFL which many won't. If they want extra money, they can go get a job for extra money. Or heaven forbid, take out a student loan like the rest of us. Because they can get a job or take out a loan for the costs of attending school not covered in a scholarship. And don't give me bull**** about them not being able to have a job because they're full time student athletes. I had a full time 40 hour a week job while doing part time research at the CDC while taking a full course load at GT and graduating in 4 years without having extra "word", tutors, or any of the other luxuries SAs have.
 
GTSurgery said:
If they want extra money, they can go get a job for extra money.
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No, they can't. It's against NCAA rules.

How did you decide that the status quo is the exactly right amount of compensation for college football players? Just give me the rationale for that, and skip the whining about your internship.
 
mm42 said:
AAFL doesn't play yet.

Give me a list of players who've gone straight from high school to the other 2.

Oh wait, I found the list:
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Well if no one's exercising alternate routes, they appear to think they're getting the best deal with the NCAA.
 
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