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If he does a press conference and sees his shadow, I think it means six more weeks of winter.
I just don't understand the contract extension and renegotiated buyout with Brian Gregory. MBOB needs to explain that one. I mean with the CPJ extension you can see both sides like cyp pointed out. I get it. The Gregory extension completely baffles me.
Beats UGA
Let's look at what Mike Bobinski has accomplished in two years as AD at Georgia Tech (hired January 16, 2013), please feel free to add in things I'm missing:
A) Didn't give Paul Johnson a vote of confidence prior to 2014 season. But renegotiated contract slowly, as if it depended on Georgie game.
B) Renewed Brian Gregory's contract. Which will cost us an additional $1 million if we fire him this year.
D) Shelly Hoerner, softball. Has losing record.
E) Machelle Collier. In one season, went 13-18 and 6-12 in conference.
A) Sharon Perkins. Softball. Three time ACC COY in 7 years, led team to NCAA tournament every season but last. Won 3 ACC titles.
B) Tonya Johnson Volleyball. mediocre results?, 85-72 overall, 50-50 in ACC.
Attendance: Not sure that we've seen improvement in football attendance. That's not on the coaches. Our best attended game was Georgia Southern. Only 49,378 showed up to watch our ranked team play ranked Clemson. 52,221 showed up for Miami, 45,403 for Wofford, 44,281 for Duke, and 46,657 for UVA.
This year in basketball our best attendance home game was Georgie. 8,127. The next closet was 7,831 showing up for the Syracuse game. For the 12-13 season, we averaged 7,365. For 13-14 that number was 6,584. This past year we dropped to ~5,960. This is lower than when we did not have a basketball arena to play in . We averaged 6,095 that season.
Financials: FY 13 saw us with an operating loss of $1,850,000. FY 14 saw us with an operating loss of $348,000. In FY 14 we drew 11.8 million from our endowment. And the Tech fund generated 5 million (slightly less than student fees). GT threw in 2.034 M in subsidies of the athletic department on top of the student fees.
Expansion: No new sports were added. We maintain the minimum number of sports teams required by the ACC (15). There is no movement on this front.
Facilities: Plans to expand the basketball arena, etc. were in place and already had money raised when he got here. What has he done?
I just don't understand the contract extension and renegotiated buyout with Brian Gregory. MBOB needs to explain that one. I mean with the CPJ extension you can see both sides like cyp pointed out. I get it. The Gregory extension completely baffles me.
So why did he extend him without giving us some cover on the buyout? And then why were we told the extension made the buyout more manageable? And why did he get a raise?
What were the details of the buyout change? Can't find them online (and please provide links to facts).
The only thing you are missing is a semblance of common sense. Let's go through each of your points.
I love Johnson, but if the goal is NOT to overpay underwhelming coaches, then there was no reason to extend CPJ before this year. We were 28-25 the four seasons prior to this one. While that wasn't worth firing per se, CPJ's seat was getting warm. And there is no reason to rush into an extension when you are 5-2 with losses to Duke and UNC and huge wins over Wofford, Tulane, and GSU. It seems perfectly acceptable to me to take the results of a season into account BEFORE figuring out what kind of extension you need to offer.
It was a one year extension, which at the time seemed fine. We are still, I believe, under contract to pay Hewitt for longer than we are to pay Gregory, even with that extension. It was also following an improvement by five games in wins. Amazing how you criticize Bobo for not acting fast enough with CPJ, despite middling results, but then you criticize him for acting too fast with CBG, despite marked improvement after his first two seasons. Are you captain hindsight?
Perkins was fired 7 weeks into Bobo's tenure, which means that it wasn't performance based.
As was already said here, Tonya resigned, she wasn't fired.
Judging us by football attendance will likely always result in failure. College football attendance is down pretty much across the board. When have we ever brought in more than 44k for dook? We just don't have a fanbase. Not sure how Bobo was supposed to change that in 2 years when our previous ADs haven't fixed it in 50. Are you a GT fan or just a troll?
Show me a team with our record and better attendance.
Same deal as football attendance. Our program has never really made money. What do you expect us to do, charge more for hot dogs? Without a real solution you just sound like an idiot who is pointing fingers at the difficulties of the job. It's not like Bobo inherited the financial success of Texas and turned those into operating losses.
Are you really this dumb? Why would we expand sports where, as you just mentioned, we are operating at a loss. Do you really think women's rowing or men's wrestling will turn around the financial outlook of our athletic department?
And why on earth would we possibly need to expand our facilities? We just completed several rounds of major football stadium renovations. We just completed a new practice field. We just completed a massive basketball renovation and constructed a practice facility for basketball.
What other sports would you possibly want added? What other facility would you possibly want to have redone?
People like you, who call for a new AD because our current one isn't magically transforming Tech into Georgia are flat out idiots. What do you realistically expect Georgia Tech's AD to do? He's not jesus.
We are continuing to improve visibility and market well. We added recruiting personnel to football and that's seemed to do well. And he's taken a very conservative, measured approach that DRAD did not. Extending a coach for a year contract isn't going to break the bank, which we are fragile on right now. Waiting to make sure we want to stick with CPJ is also a smart, measured play. The fact that he is so careful makes me think he will do a good job. We just don't have the resources to make another Hewitt sized mistake.
It seems like Bobinski has a higher valuation of Gregory than us.So it was a 1.75 year guarantee extension, not a 1 year extension. Wtf MBob? It's not like another team was interested or he just won a final four game.
75 -> 100 in 13-14
75 -> 100 in 14-15
50 -> 100 in 15-16
50 -> 75 in 16-17
0 -> 50 in 17-18
It seems like Bobinski has a higher valuation of Gregory than us.
1. gives a better extension than we thought was deserved.
2. says we have the money to fire him now, but want to see more from Gregory.
One explanation...
I just don't understand the contract extension and renegotiated buyout with Brian Gregory. MBOB needs to explain that one. I mean with the CPJ extension you can see both sides like cyp pointed out. I get it. The Gregory extension completely baffles me.
We were 28-25 the four seasons prior to this one.
there is one reason that i know that was big in his favor with some of the elements in the decision process: he has turned the team into an academic achiever
not a joke. the academic numbers are way up. while you guys might scoff at this, the fact is that this is important to factions involved in the decision making process at the deepest levels
old contract:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110401...how-much-will-georgia-tech-pay-brian-gregory/
Buyout:
100% 11-12
100% 12-13
75% 13-14
75% 14-15
50% 15-16
50% 16-17
After extension:
http://georgiatech.blog.ajc.com/2015/03/12/notes-background-on-gregory-buyout/
Buyout:
100% 13-14
100% 14-15
100% 15-16
75% 16-17
50% 17-18