Tech Must Improve or Drop Sports

77GTFan said:
I do get the feeling on the board that most would rather older Tech fans either go away or shut up. Perhaps we need to purge the fan base of everyone who is ever unhappy with the program and was alive when Bobby Dodd coached. It may be a necessary step to change the culture.
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Worst ööööing day of my life.
 
CiraldoForever said:
My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in 1957, when I was 7 years old. I have been a Tech fan all my life. I do not find any joy in writing this. I am very invested in this program.

Specifically, I do not mean this as a personal criticism of any administrator, coach or anybody else.

However, in my life, I have seen Tech go from a time when people could not buy tickets to a time when you cannot give tickets away. I have seen Tech go from being one of the most respected programs in the nation to being nothing short of a total joke.

We do not have any leadership that has accomplished anything to give me hope. I think our football coach is in way over his head. I do not believe he will recruit much better than past coaches, and I do not think he is a competent head coach. In short, with him running the football program, I think Tech is doomed.

I think our basketball coach is worse than incompetent. The things that have happened under his "watch" should never be tolerated. We would be better off with a student coach with a strong sense of right and wrong than with our present coach. I wish him the best, but I hope it will happen somewhere else. Maybe he was just not paying attention, but that is itself enough reason for him to be fired.

I feel better about baseball and some other sports, but with dismal, hopeless football and basketball regimes, the other sports will not survive.

None of this speaks well of our Athletic Director. He seems like a good man, but his decisions on coaches have been catastrophic. I don't have any confidence in him, either.

So, to keep from continuing to make a mockery of Tech's proud athletic history, we need to either make a ton of changes to rescue our sports program or we need to drop sports. The people in charge of the Institute must make the decision: Fully support this proud program or put it out of its misery. I hate that it has come to this, but it has.

I know the people on this board will ridicule my views and make fun of me for being an old man living in the past. Well, I have about the same level of respect for them and their views as they have for me and mine. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Maybe, if they had more historical perspective, they would at least tolerate and respect my feelings. But, of course, they don't.

By the way, we don't need Paul Johnson. He couldn't get it done. We need people like Bobby Dodd, Bobby Ross, Whack Hyder, Bobby Cremins, Homer Rice, and Bill Curry. We need integrity, leadership and excellence. We need the "A Team."
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What the öööö is this öööö?

You obviously never took a class at GT nor ever stepped on an athletic field. Our guys could lose every game every year and I would still be there. Because I am a Georgia Tech fan.

Time for you to find another team or get back on your meds. Maybe both.
 
coit said:
Our guys could lose every game every year and I would still be there. Because I am a Georgia Tech fan.
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This. It's so simple but it seems like the most complicated concept to some people here. The only thing worse than Georgia winning, is Tech losing. The only thing worse than Tech losing, is Tech not playing at all.
 
JacketForLife said:
The only fans that need to shut up for the good of the program are the johnsonians and scheme only fans.
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I think the set of individuals is larger than the subset you specify. The full umbrella can best be described as defeatists that think we can't compete, and within those you have scheme-specific fanatics along with the dropping to DIV2/FCS crowd. Collins has to rehabilitate the battered wife syndrome "It will never get better" defeatists, all of them.
 
CiraldoForever said:
My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in 1957, when I was 7 years old. I have been a Tech fan all my life. I do not find any joy in writing this. I am very invested in this program.

Specifically, I do not mean this as a personal criticism of any administrator, coach or anybody else.

However, in my life, I have seen Tech go from a time when people could not buy tickets to a time when you cannot give tickets away. I have seen Tech go from being one of the most respected programs in the nation to being nothing short of a total joke.

We do not have any leadership that has accomplished anything to give me hope. I think our football coach is in way over his head. I do not believe he will recruit much better than past coaches, and I do not think he is a competent head coach. In short, with him running the football program, I think Tech is doomed.

I think our basketball coach is worse than incompetent. The things that have happened under his "watch" should never be tolerated. We would be better off with a student coach with a strong sense of right and wrong than with our present coach. I wish him the best, but I hope it will happen somewhere else. Maybe he was just not paying attention, but that is itself enough reason for him to be fired.

I feel better about baseball and some other sports, but with dismal, hopeless football and basketball regimes, the other sports will not survive.

None of this speaks well of our Athletic Director. He seems like a good man, but his decisions on coaches have been catastrophic. I don't have any confidence in him, either.

So, to keep from continuing to make a mockery of Tech's proud athletic history, we need to either make a ton of changes to rescue our sports program or we need to drop sports. The people in charge of the Institute must make the decision: Fully support this proud program or put it out of its misery. I hate that it has come to this, but it has.

I know the people on this board will ridicule my views and make fun of me for being an old man living in the past. Well, I have about the same level of respect for them and their views as they have for me and mine. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Maybe, if they had more historical perspective, they would at least tolerate and respect my feelings. But, of course, they don't.

By the way, we don't need Paul Johnson. He couldn't get it done. We need people like Bobby Dodd, Bobby Ross, Whack Hyder, Bobby Cremins, Homer Rice, and Bill Curry. We need integrity, leadership and excellence. We need the "A Team."
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You will get a lot of crap on here for this. But thanks for your fandom over the years. I’m surprised and would like to hear your reply though that even through your many years of watching that you haven’t seen even worse a worse state of athletics than you are now. Our baseball team is cooking and we have had success in all sports in different years. Tech is a special place where you can do anything you want to do. It takes special people yes but it will happen again.
 
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He forgot to mention Dodd screwed us by pulling us from the SEC. UGAg and the Mississippi schools made sure we couldn't come back.
 
We’re FIVE years from winning the Orange Bowl and nearly making the playoff. We’ve won a conference championship in the last 10 years. Played in two more. Had one of the longest bowl streaks in the nation until 2015.

Pull yourself together. There’s ups and downs.... not every “down” means that it’s time to axe the program. This too shall pass.
 
77GTFan said:
I do get the feeling on the board that most would rather older Tech fans either go away or shut up. Perhaps we need to purge the fan base of everyone who is ever unhappy with the program and was alive when Bobby Dodd coached. It may be a necessary step to change the culture.
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I’d like to hear your long form expression of this argument. Because it sounds stupid the way you put it. We need all the fans we can get and these guys saw the glory of what we could be. No reason to get rid of them.
 
GT flunkout said:
Your post loses a lot of credibility when you say that you don't think we will recruit any better. That's obviously not true.

We are at a low point with respect to football we haven't seen since 1994. Jury is still out on Collins and we will see. It's hard not to see upside in a lot of different things unless you are really dug in the mud which it seems you are.

You also lose credibility trying to cherry-pick back into history. My "historical perspective" is that Georgia Tech Athletics was never more tanked and in the ööööter than it was in the 70s and 80s. Thanks to names like Rice, Ross, and Cremins, and the great luck of getting into the ACC, Tech overcame the disastrous reign of Dodd as AD. Curry loved Tech so much he went to Bama.

I think we are at an inflection point. It's not a popular opinion but one that I share with you is that the jury is still out on Stansbury for a lot of different reasons that go beyond the selection of coaches.
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The reality is that Tech football hasn't been consistent since the 1950's.
 
MACHETE said:
The reality is that Tech football hasn't been consistent since the 1950's.
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1997-2016 we had one losing regular season. Averaged 8 wins a season. Consistently mediocre? That's subjective. Pretty consistent though.

There's no doubt that we are at a low point. Stop trying to rewrite history with "it's who we are and it's always been this bad". Just because you're old and you have an opinion doesn't mean you're immune from a 40 year old whippersnapper disagreeing with you based on "reality".
 
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CiraldoForever said:
My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in 1957, when I was 7 years old. I have been a Tech fan all my life. I do not find any joy in writing this. I am very invested in this program.

Specifically, I do not mean this as a personal criticism of any administrator, coach or anybody else.

However, in my life, I have seen Tech go from a time when people could not buy tickets to a time when you cannot give tickets away. I have seen Tech go from being one of the most respected programs in the nation to being nothing short of a total joke.

We do not have any leadership that has accomplished anything to give me hope. I think our football coach is in way over his head. I do not believe he will recruit much better than past coaches, and I do not think he is a competent head coach. In short, with him running the football program, I think Tech is doomed.

I think our basketball coach is worse than incompetent. The things that have happened under his "watch" should never be tolerated. We would be better off with a student coach with a strong sense of right and wrong than with our present coach. I wish him the best, but I hope it will happen somewhere else. Maybe he was just not paying attention, but that is itself enough reason for him to be fired.

I feel better about baseball and some other sports, but with dismal, hopeless football and basketball regimes, the other sports will not survive.

None of this speaks well of our Athletic Director. He seems like a good man, but his decisions on coaches have been catastrophic. I don't have any confidence in him, either.

So, to keep from continuing to make a mockery of Tech's proud athletic history, we need to either make a ton of changes to rescue our sports program or we need to drop sports. The people in charge of the Institute must make the decision: Fully support this proud program or put it out of its misery. I hate that it has come to this, but it has.

I know the people on this board will ridicule my views and make fun of me for being an old man living in the past. Well, I have about the same level of respect for them and their views as they have for me and mine. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Maybe, if they had more historical perspective, they would at least tolerate and respect my feelings. But, of course, they don't.

By the way, we don't need Paul Johnson. He couldn't get it done. We need people like Bobby Dodd, Bobby Ross, Whack Hyder, Bobby Cremins, Homer Rice, and Bill Curry. We need integrity, leadership and excellence. We need the "A Team."
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Too many people in the world

GT dropping the SEC was the correct decision

GT being an innovator & dropping sports would get my sign of approval

In the end, too many dipshits
 
This guy’s so old he doesn’t even know how to look up recruiting rankings.

We are kicking ass now where it counts. And doing so while we aren’t even any good yet.
 
CiraldoForever said:
My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in 1957, when I was 7 years old. I have been a Tech fan all my life. I do not find any joy in writing this. I am very invested in this program.

Specifically, I do not mean this as a personal criticism of any administrator, coach or anybody else.

However, in my life, I have seen Tech go from a time when people could not buy tickets to a time when you cannot give tickets away. I have seen Tech go from being one of the most respected programs in the nation to being nothing short of a total joke.

We do not have any leadership that has accomplished anything to give me hope. I think our football coach is in way over his head. I do not believe he will recruit much better than past coaches, and I do not think he is a competent head coach. In short, with him running the football program, I think Tech is doomed.

I think our basketball coach is worse than incompetent. The things that have happened under his "watch" should never be tolerated. We would be better off with a student coach with a strong sense of right and wrong than with our present coach. I wish him the best, but I hope it will happen somewhere else. Maybe he was just not paying attention, but that is itself enough reason for him to be fired.

I feel better about baseball and some other sports, but with dismal, hopeless football and basketball regimes, the other sports will not survive.

None of this speaks well of our Athletic Director. He seems like a good man, but his decisions on coaches have been catastrophic. I don't have any confidence in him, either.

So, to keep from continuing to make a mockery of Tech's proud athletic history, we need to either make a ton of changes to rescue our sports program or we need to drop sports. The people in charge of the Institute must make the decision: Fully support this proud program or put it out of its misery. I hate that it has come to this, but it has.

I know the people on this board will ridicule my views and make fun of me for being an old man living in the past. Well, I have about the same level of respect for them and their views as they have for me and mine. I don't think they know what they're talking about. Maybe, if they had more historical perspective, they would at least tolerate and respect my feelings. But, of course, they don't.

By the way, we don't need Paul Johnson. He couldn't get it done. We need people like Bobby Dodd, Bobby Ross, Whack Hyder, Bobby Cremins, Homer Rice, and Bill Curry. We need integrity, leadership and excellence. We need the "A Team."
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You are a sad, small man.
 
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