What the Denver Broncos Proved

The Wildcat worked too when Miami ran all over New England with it.
 
GT1992 said:
They proved that it works against a team missing two defensive linemen and their starting safety who should have been over the top on the final play. It wasn't the same Steelers team that was the number 1 defense. It didn't work against several teams this year and much like the wildcat, defensive coaches in the NFL catch on. It only put up 23 points in regulation and that won't win a lot of games.

In the GT-UNC game, the same thing happened, the safety bit. Yes, that is by scheme, but good ones don't.
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Falcs dominated a few games with option type plays one season too. Just back then a combination of bad pass block oline, receivers with the dropsie, and an inaccurate Vick made it hard to keep it effective.

Also when Urban was making it famous I remember a few NFL coaches were paying close attention to the offense (Bellichick included)
 
mmbt0ne said:
The safety didn't bite on anything that could be prevented, go watch the highlights.

He was coming on a blitz before the snap.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=320108007
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You really should watch the hightlight before you post something like this. The saftey was coming-up for run-support because he expected an option-run. As soon as Tebow drops back, the saftey who was moving up turns around for pass-coverage but was too late.

This is exactly what we try to accomplish with our option-scheme to set-up long passes.
 
BarrelORum said:
Nobody really remembers just how good Randall Cunningham was. Guy was the first true dual threat QB in the NFL.
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I remember, we were up 31 going into the 2nd half and only beat them by a FG if I remember correctly. He was another player I would stand up to watch play.
 
AE 87 said:
You really should watch the hightlight before you post something like this. The saftey was coming-up for run-support because he expected an option-run. As soon as Tebow drops back, the saftey who was moving up turns around for pass-coverage but was too late.

This is exactly what we try to accomplish with our option-scheme to set-up long passes.
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Uhh, 92 said a better safety wouldn't have made the same mistake as the one playing. That it wasn't scheme, but bad players.

The safety didn't make a mistake. He was out-schemed.
 
mmbt0ne said:
Uhh, 92 said a better safety wouldn't have made the same mistake as the one playing. That it wasn't scheme, but bad players.

The safety didn't make a mistake. He was out-schemed.
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The safety himself tweeted an apology. He over-committed.
 
mmbt0ne said:
Uhh, 92 said a better safety wouldn't have made the same mistake as the one playing. That it wasn't scheme, but bad players.

The safety didn't make a mistake. He was out-schemed.
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Sorry, I misread your use of the word "blitz" for run-support. I guess, you and 92 agreed that he was out-schemed but disagree whether this was preventable.

I think that the truth lies in between. The "good" safties may not react early, as 1992 suggests, but I think those successful at shutting the offense down for little gain often do react early. It's a catch-22. If you're counting on the saftey for run-support against an option, you need to get him up there.

Much of GT (and any other option team) success is going to come from attacking the way the defense has chosen to defend in order to maintain the advantage.
 
GT1992 said:
The safety himself tweeted an apology. He over-committed.
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Actually Ike Taylor tweeted an apology. He was the guy lined up over Baybay though. The guy who got beat on the route and then stiff-armed.

Ryan Mundy is 29, the one who came on a blitz pre-snap.
 
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All it proved to me is that the theory is correct: You can make people pay in the air if you have a decent QB to take advantage of a D selling out to stop the run...They only actually run the option maybe 20% of the time? (much like us) but they don't have the quirky flexbone thing going on and they pass almost 2x more.
 
stinger78 said:
You forgot about Fran Tarkenton and Roger (the Dodger) Staubach.
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No I didn't. Both those guys were scrambling QB's. Neither of them ran designed run plays close to the extent that Cunningham did. About the biggest thing they did was roll out, can't find a receiver, and run it. RC ran option plays in the late 80's under Buddy Ryan.
 
BarrelORum said:
No I didn't. Both those guys were scrambling QB's. Neither of them ran designed run plays close to the extent that Cunningham did. About the biggest thing they did was roll out, can't find a receiver, and run it. RC ran option plays in the late 80's under Buddy Ryan.
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Joe Kapp had designed running plays.
 
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