12 team playoff

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CFP board decides on 12-team playoff format

The College Football Playoff's board of managers voted Friday to expand the CFP to 12 teams in 2026, but it is encouraging the sport's commissioners to try to implement it as soon as 2024.

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Wouldn't this pretty much assure the ACC of one spot and somewhat save the conference? It's 6 top ranked conference champs and 6 at-large.

The format that is there now has been a great success, they are going to screw it up as usual

 

[andrew]

The format that is there now has been a great success, they are going to screw it up as usual

The format that is here now is kind of boring. There's so many repeat teams, and the fact that there's a playoff makes the regular season matter less (e.g. last year, doesn't really matter that Bama beat U[sic]GA.)

It's kind of in between traditional college football and normal sports in terms of structure, and turns out to be the worst of both worlds.

We're not going back to normal college football so I'm happy to see an increase in teams, especially if some of the games will be on campus.

 

[GT98]

NIL and portal are excuses and there is an argument that given corporate money in ATL that NIL should be able to help us. I think the bigger ptoblem now is not NIL and portal but recruiting money being spent now by the big dogs and a belief that big dogs help NFL chances for players.

I’d like to hear this argument. Seems outside of Waffle House, little to no corporate money is being spent on GT athletics.

The NIL & portal might sound like excuses, but it just cements the differences between the have & have nots.

However, I do agree that with the right coach, GT could make an expanded playoff even with such a financial disadvantage to the majority of their opponents.

 

[Skydog]

if this means "extra" meaningful football to watch in december then i guess i want it. i just hope they dont mess with the regular season schedule in the future. i.e. shorten it. i dont think they will but that would suck.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

I realize this might give hope to some fanbases, & it will bring in huge revenue, but with total lack of parity at the top right now, it’s not going to change outcomes, in my opinion.

 

[Flywheel]

Can we just end conference championships, and even conferences then? Unless every conference champion is guaranteed a spot, this is nothing but monetizing the same people they insist on calling "student" athletes.

 

[gt2690b]

Can we just end conference championships, and even conferences then? Unless every conference champion is guaranteed a spot, this is nothing but monetizing the same people they insist on calling "student" athletes.

Conference champions are gauranteed a spot no?

 

[OptionJacket]

Why any GT fan or a fan of any mid level to below level team doesn’t want an expanded playoff is beyond me. Many of you are sounding like shills for the NCAA and SEC wanting to see this current bogus invitational tournament remain the same so the Bama’s, UGA’s, Ohio St., and OU’s keep getting their money and backdoor invites. You say you want the system to change but when good changes happen for the little guy you say it’s hurting the sport and tradition. To that I say what tradition? The tradition of Bama and UGA cheating the academics of their school? Or them giving free cars or cash money to players while SMU gets the death penalty and GT getting its one title stripped? That’s the tradition you want to save? The tradition that allowed the Orange Bowl to sign a backdoor deal with Notre Dame in early November to hose GT? The system that wouldn’t let Boise have a seat or an undefeated UCF? You liked the tradition of having sports writers pick the champ and pick a 2 loss Colorado over an undefeated GT?

You say that now it’s at 12 that they’ll just stack it with SEC teams? So what? If an Ole Miss goes 10-2 and is legit why shouldn’t they get in? If Wake or GT goes 10-2 I think we’d all be screaming we deserve an invite. For the first time in my 52 years my team finally has a chance. Win enough games and you are in. No longer will I have to worry about a Stanford grad writing for the Akron Beacon to vote for my team. Or a committee to pick a 2 loss Bama team over a 1 loss GT team. Just win and you are in and have a shot. That’s all I’ve ever wanted for that one time in 20 years it all comes together. And when they expand into the 20’s it will be even better for the Wakes, Fresnos, GTs, Purdues of the world. We may lose every playoff game on the field but that’s way better than losing it in the media.

 

[Flywheel]

Conference champions are gauranteed a spot no?

It only looks to me like the top 4 conference Champs get a bye and the 1-4 seeds.

Which is maddening because that's all they really needed to do to fix the CFP: limit the 4 entries to conference champions only, i.e. no conferences double-dipping.

Regards,

Flywheel:
Old enough to remember when NCAA said anything but the BCS would affect players' final exams, and how that concern evaporated when no one watched the Bama-LSU rematch.

 

[GT flunkout]

Acting as if the ACC needs a 12 team playoff to be relevant is a really weird take considering the ACC has been represented in every 4 team playoff except for 2021, when a G5 team made it in and 3 P5 conferences went unrepresented.

12 is overkill. Definitely would have preferred six or eight at the most, with all conference champions represented. It makes no sense for a team to win the national championship that didn't win its conference.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

12 teams, 15 teams, 100 teams, it doesn't matter right now. It will come down to about 2-4 teams. NFL-lite is only separating itself further.

 

[OptionJacket]

12 teams, 15 teams, 100 teams, it doesn't matter right now. It will come down to about 2-4 teams. NFL-lite is only separating itself further.

Yeah, just like how every year in March Madness the team with the most 5stars always wins right? Ha. An expanded playoff will make posts like you made look silly. Upsets and injuries happen in every sport and will happen in the D1 football playoffs. I’ll be here reminding all of whiners when everyone is celebrating a low seed beating a high seed. Meanwhile you guys can enjoy another season of meaningless games knowing in the end the elites will pick Bama, UGA, Ohio St., and Oklahoma. And y’all will eat it up.

 

[ClubSeats]

Acting as if the ACC needs a 12 team playoff to be relevant is a really weird take considering the ACC has been represented in every 4 team playoff except for 2021, when a G5 team made it in and 3 P5 conferences went unrepresented.

12 is overkill. Definitely would have preferred six or eight at the most, with all conference champions represented. It makes no sense for a team to win the national championship that didn't win its conference.

Happens all the time in basketball and nobody cares. Because what will end up happening is no one will care about the conference championship games. They’ll probably stop playing them with all the extra rounds of playoffs anyway

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

Yeah, just like how every year in March Madness the team with the most 5stars always wins right? Ha. An expanded playoff will make posts like you made look silly. Upsets and injuries happen in every sport and will happen in the D1 football playoffs. I’ll be here reminding all of whiners when everyone is celebrating a low seed beating a high seed. Meanwhile you guys can enjoy another season of meaningless games knowing in the end the elites will pick Bama, UGA, Ohio St., and Oklahoma. And y’all will eat it up.

We will agree to disagree. Football ain't basketball. Any night, if guys get really hot from behind the line, ANYONE has a chance, but this is generally not true when a team is bigger and faster and decently coached in football. And, the separation from the top 2-3 teams from the "have nots" has never been larger.

If this was the year 2005 or before, I would agree with your post, but it is not.

 

[OptionJacket]

We will agree to disagree. Football ain't basketball. Any night, if guys get really hot from behind the line, ANYONE has a chance, but this is generally not true when a team is bigger and faster and decently coached in football. And, the separation from the top 2-3 teams from the "have nots" has never been larger.

If this was the year 2005 or before, I would agree with your post, but it is not.

I hear you and get your point. But upsets absolutely do happen and would happen. Look at last season. Bama waxes UGA. Then what happens? Bama loses some key players to injury and UGA wins the rematch. You telling me if Bama lost Young in the first round game to an injury they would still waltz to the Natty? Upsets just don’t happen to Bama or UGA these days because Saban and Kirby know the formula - don’t play anyone decent out of conference on the road and handle your business and you get a free pass to the final four. Sure, UGA played Oregon…..in Georgia! And while Bama is playing at Texas this year they haven’t been doing those games year to year. I promise you in a real playoff they’ll would be plenty of upsets due to less prep time and injuries. We just don’t see them now because the top teams (including Ohio St) only have to game plan and practice for 2 games a season. Right now, UGA has one game to plan for over the next 3 months and that’s Bama. Once Bama whips Texas they’ll have 3 months to prep for UGA. Put them in a week to week playoff against teams they’ve never seen and you’ll get plenty of upsets. We see it in every sport.

 

[AlabamaBuzz]

I hear you and get your point. But upsets absolutely do happen and would happen. Look at last season. Bama waxes UGA. Then what happens? Bama loses some key players to injury and UGA wins the rematch. You telling me if Bama lost Young in the first round game to an injury they would still waltz to the Natty? Upsets just don’t happen to Bama or UGA these days because Saban and Kirby know the formula - don’t play anyone decent out of conference on the road and handle your business and you get a free pass to the final four. Sure, UGA played Oregon…..in Georgia! And while Bama is playing at Texas this year they haven’t been doing those games year to year. I promise you in a real playoff they’ll would be plenty of upsets due to less prep time and injuries. We just don’t see them now because the top teams (including Ohio St) only have to game plan and practice for 2 games a season. Right now, UGA has one game to plan for over the next 3 months and that’s Bama. Once Bama whips Texas they’ll have 3 months to prep for UGA. Put them in a week to week playoff against teams they’ve never seen and you’ll get plenty of upsets. We see it in every sport.

BAMA and UGAG are basically the 2 most loaded teams in the country. Most likely, if Bammer doesn't lose their 2 top receivers, they don't lose the 2nd game, but it is not an upset anyway, since UGAG has the same level and depth of talent. Yes, upsets between teams not named UGAG or Bammer probably will happen. And, maybe, just maybe, some other teams can out-Bammer these 2 teams for recruits, but they will still have to coach at a high level. Anyway, only a very, very few teams will have a chance to get the top prize, and that is a fact. Texas will probably be steam-rolled. Utah State's coach said he had never in his life seen anything like Bammer's talent level. Gibbs had a great game, but you would not even know it because of the rest of the stars. Yes, Ohio St. is also close. The disparity between the top 3-4 teams and everyone else has NEVER been like this, EVER.

 

[gt2690b]

BAMA and UGAG are basically the 2 most loaded teams in the country. Most likely, if Bammer doesn't lose their 2 top receivers, they don't lose the 2nd game, but it is not an upset anyway, since UGAG has the same level and depth of talent. Yes, upsets between teams not named UGAG or Bammer probably will happen. And, maybe, just maybe, some other teams can out-Bammer these 2 teams for recruits, but they will still have to coach at a high level. Anyway, only a very, very few teams will have a chance to get the top prize, and that is a fact. Texas will probably be steam-rolled. Utah State's coach said he had never in his life seen anything like Bammer's talent level. Gibbs had a great game, but you would not even know it because of the rest of the stars. Yes, Ohio St. is also close. The disparity between the top 3-4 teams and everyone else has NEVER been like this, EVER.

Texas ATM has bought a pretty good team at this point as well I think they are still young though

 

[Thomson 2 Tampa]

I think this will, ultimately, force Notre Dame to join a conference. The question is, would they pick the ACC over the BIG10? If they want overall sports, the ACC is a good choice. If based on football, alone, they may go the other way.

If ND joins a conference, they have to join the ACC. It was part of their contract with the ACC when their other sports teams joined the ACC.

 

[OptionJacket]

BAMA and UGAG are basically the 2 most loaded teams in the country. Most likely, if Bammer doesn't lose their 2 top receivers, they don't lose the 2nd game, but it is not an upset anyway, since UGAG has the same level and depth of talent. Yes, upsets between teams not named UGAG or Bammer probably will happen. And, maybe, just maybe, some other teams can out-Bammer these 2 teams for recruits, but they will still have to coach at a high level. Anyway, only a very, very few teams will have a chance to get the top prize, and that is a fact. Texas will probably be steam-rolled. Utah State's coach said he had never in his life seen anything like Bammer's talent level. Gibbs had a great game, but you would not even know it because of the rest of the stars. Yes, Ohio St. is also close. The disparity between the top 3-4 teams and everyone else has NEVER been like this, EVER.

To say upsets don’t happen “as a fact” tells me you are young. Every era has had their dominant teams. This era is no different with Bama and UGA. They aren’t sacred and it isn’t fact that they are unbeatable. No different than when Miami couldn’t lose to Penn State. Y’all are putting those two teams on a major pedestal and someone will knock them off. But again, those two schools are smart enough not to schedule games that put them at risk so they’ll waltz into a 4 team tourney where they can’t be upset. Some team will end this season on fire and get left out so no chance for an upset. Once the playoffs expand they’ll have their chance like we see in the hoops tourney. Right now, Cinderella doesn’t have a way to exist in college football and fans wonder why we never see upsets.

 

[whiskey clear]

I think this will, ultimately, force Notre Dame to join a conference. The question is, would they pick the ACC over the BIG10? If they want overall sports, the ACC is a good choice. If based on football, alone, they may go the other way.

I don’t think it changes ND’s position at all. Other things may, For instance USC having to fulfill a Big football schedule. Playing ND regularly may not be as enticing as it was previously. If realignment limits ND scheduling that might force them to jump. But no they will never join the ACC in football.