12 team playoff

The Jacket said:
Got to be more than that. What this means is if we only have 1 loss come Halloween, we can probably still play our way into the playoff.
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Clemson had one loss and it seemed like the sports media were relieved to write them off in regards to the playoff. Of course losing to SC put the nail in the coffin. I get the same feeling for TCU. Hoping they lose so they can squeeze OSU or Bama :cooleek:in there. I imagine Tech would have to be undefeated to make the playoff.
 
Count me in the 12-teams-is-too-many camp for the playoffs. I think 8 is enough: 5 P5 champs, two best G5 champs, and the highest ranked at-large team. But they didn’t ask me.
 
At four teams, we get a lot of butthurt about which undefeated, 1 or even 2 loss teams are worthy of being In.

The butthurt that will be generated out of which undefeated, 1, 2 or 3 loss teams that should be In would be enough to power the grid if we could convert butthurt to electricity.



Maybe the machines have figured out our energy output is higher the more we are butthurt. This would explain a great many things.
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GTJay said:
Count me in the 12-teams-is-too-many camp for the playoffs. I think 8 is enough: 5 P5 champs, two best G5 champs, and the highest ranked at-large team. But they didn’t ask me.
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If I could rework the entire system, I would make 8 sixteen team ‘conferences’. Each conference would have an upper and lower league. The upper league would play a round robin. Winner makes an eight team playoff. Same goes for the lower league, except no playoff. The top 2 teams from the lower league replaces the bottom 2 teams from the upper.

That makes room for 128 teams with only 64 with a shot at the playoff.

Will never happen though.
 
WracerX said:
If I could rework the entire system, I would make 8 sixteen team ‘conferences’. Each conference would have an upper and lower league. The upper league would play a round robin. Winner makes an eight team playoff. Same goes for the lower league, except no playoff. The top 2 teams from the lower league replaces the bottom 2 teams from the upper.

That makes room for 128 teams with only 64 with a shot at the playoff.

Will never happen though.
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One good thing about your plan… we’d have college football playoffs all the way til March Madness.
 
I'm the old curmudgeon who liked the old bowl system, who was content with the BCS #1 vs #2, has never really cared for the 4 team playoff, and is not at all excited about the expanded playoff.
 
stinger78 said:
One good thing about your plan… we’d have college football playoffs all the way til March Madness.
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Why? You have 8 teams. There would be no conference championship, so you could get down to 4 at the exact same time as now if you wanted.
 
MatatoGT said:
I'm the old curmudgeon who liked the old bowl system, who was content with the BCS #1 vs #2, has never really cared for the 4 team playoff, and is not at all excited about the expanded playoff.
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I must be an older curmudgeon. I liked arguing over the multiple final poll results after all the random bowls were complete that determined the MNC.
 
andrew said:
So in this model it's better to be in third place in the conference than first or second, right?

Like this year, Michigan and Ohio State would play each other in the first round, whereas Penn State would snag one of the at large spots and get to play the third best team from another conference.

From a logistics perspective it woul work, but I feel like it provides some pretty perverse incentives as normally you want to reward the teams that finished higher in the regular season and set it up so that top teams would play each other later in the playoffs.
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True it would be better to be third, if conferences continued to pit their top 2 teams. The play-in round would make conferences rethink how they select teams. It would no longer be a conference championship game but a play-in game. An undefeated top 4 ranked conference team wouldn't play in conference play-in game. Conferences would be free to select whoever they want to maximize the number of team making the playoffs. The only guarantee would be the play-in winner, the top ranked team would play in a first round bowl against a weaker opponent.

Edit: G5 would still have to pit top 2.
 
WracerX said:
Why? You have 8 teams. There would be no conference championship, so you could get down to 4 at the exact same time as now if you wanted.
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I guess I saw "64 with a shot" and misread your post. Sorry.
 
stinger78 said:
I guess I saw "64 with a shot" and misread your post. Sorry.
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I see. This would just split FBS into a relegation model. It would never fly though because you would have to split the B1G, SEC, and probably ACC in half to get to 8 conferences with enough top tier teams. You couldn’t just ask the Sunbelt, American, or MAC to join in without pairing those teams with some headliners.
 
andrew said:
So in this model it's better to be in third place in the conference than first or second, right?

Like this year, Michigan and Ohio State would play each other in the first round, whereas Penn State would snag one of the at large spots and get to play the third best team from another conference.

From a logistics perspective it woul work, but I feel like it provides some pretty perverse incentives as normally you want to reward the teams that finished higher in the regular season and set it up so that top teams would play each other later in the playoffs.
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Here’s a thought on the 12 team.

When big10 goes to big12 way of no divisions, this year we would have had ohst mich last week, then AGAIN this week in big 10 championship! And to the 12 team scenario, what if ohst lost by 3 this week and then drops to number 7 seed. They then beat a number 10 klempsum in the 7-10 matchup, matching up with Michigan AGAIN in the quarter finals! (2-7 matchup)

3 out of 4 weeks is a possibility, just sayin. Is that the direction that we’re headed?
 
cyptomcat said:
Now that I see it on paper with an example, I like this. It penalizes teams with a "wild card" game for not winning their conferences.


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It apparently punishes the ACC for being the ACC as well. 5 conferences, 4 byes.
 
I think now that we have HCBK it should be changed to a 130 team playoff where each teams HC fights it out in a thunder/blood dome "2 men enter, 1 man leaves" winner take all elimination match. I like our odds in this scenario.
 
FSU, the way they are playing right now, would give any of the current top 4 a scare. Probably the best team in the ACC at the moment
 
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