2023 Recruiting

GoGATech said:
But over that same time span, NC State - a school we should be at least on par with or recruit better than - had 30 guys DRAFTED into the NFL. That's not even counting UFA's. Their recruiting classes over that span averaged in the 40s-50s. It's true we had good players and some that made it to the NFL but we never had AS MANY on the roster at once as most every other school.
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Why should we have recruited as well as NC State? It is easier to get into and the largest state school in NC, with a lot of majors, and ran a more traditional offense. NC State has 22 active NFL players, good for 4th in the conference behind Clemson, Miami and Florida State.
 
GoGATech said:
But over that same time span, NC State - a school we should be at least on par with or recruit better than - had 30 guys DRAFTED into the NFL. That's not even counting UFA's. Their recruiting classes over that span averaged in the 40s-50s. It's true we had good players and some that made it to the NFL but we never had AS MANY on the roster at once as most every other school.
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Yes, they had more. Some of that is related to system, though. There were never going to be as many option athletes going to the pros. Therefore, we have to adjust expectations accordingly and include performance metrics at the college level to determine quality. When you include metrics such as games won, yardage rankings, and efficiency stats, etc. it looks even better.

PS - With reference specifically to NCSU, there are few teams in the ACC that have underperformed as badly as NCSU over the past 20+ years in football. There is no reason that program ought not be a perennial top 25 program.
 
stinger78 said:
If you want to discuss how our 2023 class compares to our classes over the past 15 years or so, it's relevant. It's all recruiting.
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We’ve had about eighteen million threads talking about historical recruiting and more specifically paul Johnson recruiting. Is it too much to ask for one singular thread that is just about our 2023 recruits?
 
stinger78 said:
The following are GA Tech players recruited by Paul Johnson who were recruited or at least ended up on a practice squad in the NFL. This is certainly missing a few, like Orwin Smith who signed a 2-year, $930K contract with the Packers in 2016 but failed to make the team. None of it was guaranteed, so I suppose he walked away with nothing. Anyway, here are 25 players over 11 seasons or a little over two per season - 8-10 over a recruiting cycle. This is certainly not Alabama or Ohio State, but it's not like CPJ wasn't recruiting good college players.
  1. Anthony Allen - 7th Round
  2. Jeremiah Attaochu - 2nd
  3. TJ Barnes - UFA
  4. Harrison Butker - 7th
  5. Jalen Camp - 6th
  6. Tariq Carpenter - 7th
  7. Jack Coco - UFA
  8. Kevin Cone - UFA
  9. Nathan Cottrell - UFA
  10. Adam Gotsis - 2nd
  11. Pressley Harvin - 7th
  12. Stephen Hill - 2nd
  13. Isaiah Johnson - UFA
  14. Jordan Mason - UFA
  15. Shaq Mason - 4th
  16. Chris Milton - UFA
  17. DeAndre Smelter - 4th
  18. Rod Sweeting - UFA
  19. Trey Swilling - UFA
  20. Jemea Thomas - 6th
  21. Juanyeh Thomas - UFA
  22. Darren Waller - 6th
  23. Brandon Watts - 7th
  24. DJ White - 6th
  25. Louis Young - UFA
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So many receivers on that list too
 
OmnipoTech said:
He decommitted from Notre Dame and committed to Tech, but signing day was basically a week away and Notre Dame brought the bag to get him back. It's not like we were his first offer and he jumped as soon as he got another.

Anyway, my original comment was more an attack on Collins than a defense of CPJ's recruiting.
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Fair enough
 
Would Brent hire Paul as a recruiting specialist? Food for thought after seeing who all he put in the NFL. Prob not just wishful thinking!
 
supersenior said:
We’ve had about eighteen million threads talking about historical recruiting and more specifically paul Johnson recruiting. Is it too much to ask for one singular thread that is just about our 2023 recruits?
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Is there more coming?
 
Every time it gets boring around here, CPJ reinvents the wheel, I mean 3O, I mean NFL draft for people that cant NFL draft......
 
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