A Culture of Inferiority

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Over the past 4 years Geoff Collins truly implemented the greatest transformation in college football history for Georgia Tech. This transformation was not about the offensive strategy or recruiting rankings, it was about setting expectations very low for every component of Tech football from the players on the field to the fans in the stands. One of the early warning signs for this was replacing the depth chart with the ATL chart. What has traditionally been used as a way to separate those who worked hard for their spot on the team was replaced with a pool for each position. We stood by. We were hungry for a return to prominence and we were promised a stable of 4 and 5 stars to come play for the white and gold. A lot of us saw through the gimmicks but we let it go because we were told, this is what you need to do to recruit biGTime.

However, those gimmicks were the first symptoms of the drop in quality for Georgia Tech. In an effort to create a playground for 18 year olds with a fun coach who pats you on the back even when you öööö up, Geoff Collins managed to create a culture of inferiority on North Avenue. The emphasis on the gimmicks, the swag, moneydown, social media stunts, DJs in practice, Juice Crew, 404theCulture, everything he implemented chipped away at the focus on coaching basics of playing football and turned the program into a circus. For a coach who brought the slogan "Competition is King" to Georgia Tech, he's done anything but instill a competitive drive in his team and instead created an environment where these kids can't improve and even regressed. We watched all this happen. In year one he painted a picture for us where the players he inherited and recruited never played a single down of real football because of his predecessor running option plays out of the wishbone. A loss to Citadel, a loss to his former team Temple and a shutout against VT at home were unacceptable, but we bought the transformation pitch and we lowered our expectations too. Even after a loss to NIU and closing his third year 3-9 with last two losses 100-0, some of us hoped that with a better OC and better assistants and his increased "focus" on defense he might maybe make a bowl game in 2022 to keep his job. That is a very low standard for a fanbase who prides in having 4 national titles. The kids were spoiled into it and we were lied and beaten into it. This is the transformation that Geoff Collins created.

There is no blame to pass around to the players or the fans in this transformation. You, as a single fan, are powerless to enact change. Regardless of when you saw it coming, or when you jumped off the Juice train, or when you stopped donating, you couldn't have helped fight this travesty by yourself. Derrick Moore couldn't and he'd been a source of motivation and a spiritual leader for almost two decades for Georgia Tech. He left. You support the program with donations, you buy season tickets, you buy jerseys, Adidas shirts, hats, you spend 3 hours in Atlanta traffic and pay overpriced parking just to go cheer for the team in your beloved stadium, and at the end of the day you want to hope that all this time, money and effort is for a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't even blame those who still hoped for something to change after WCU game. There's no blaming the players either, if anything they're in victim status because some of them trusted this man to get them ready for the next level for four years and he failed them. Those who finally recognized this at the end of last season did the best thing they could do for themselves and left.

In the coming days or weeks or months, this dark period of Georgia Tech Football will come to an end. For those in power, the losses in fan attendance, revenue and donations will eventually outweigh the cost of firing those responsible for this transformation. Today, we're united in an unprecedented level, at least in my meager 20 year experience of being a Tech fan, in our desire get out of this nightmare and I know each and every one of you will rejoice to see this end, at least until we're at each others' throats about hiring option coaches vs non-option coaches. My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg
 
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My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg
What scares the hell out of me is that we are headed for a Bill Curry to Bobby Ross transition where the kids are so spoiled that the new hardass coach has a two-year long mutiny before the team accepts his leadership. I had players that transitioned from Curry to Ross tell me directly that they wouldn't play for Ross. That's why we went 2 years without an ACC win. Once Curry's upperclassmen peeled off, (1989) the wins started coming.

We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
 
We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
If he had a conscience he wouldn't. But he seems to be sleeping comfortably on his bed of money.
 
Great post - my worry here is this also part of the indifference from the hill on athletics? Could they care less about this sport that occurs every Saturday in the fall but our rankings in US News and World report continues to climb....why do they have to be mutually exclusive and not have top student athletes and campus culture?
 
What scares the hell out of me is that we are headed for a Bill Curry to Bobby Ross transition where the kids are so spoiled that the new hardass coach has a two-year long mutiny before the team accepts his leadership. I had players that transitioned from Curry to Ross tell me directly that they wouldn't play for Ross. That's why we went 2 years without an ACC win. Once Curry's upperclassmen peeled off, (1989) the wins started coming.

We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
The thing is nowadays those players can take off sooner.
 
What scares the hell out of me is that we are headed for a Bill Curry to Bobby Ross transition where the kids are so spoiled that the new hardass coach has a two-year long mutiny before the team accepts his leadership. I had players that transitioned from Curry to Ross tell me directly that they wouldn't play for Ross. That's why we went 2 years without an ACC win. Once Curry's upperclassmen peeled off, (1989) the wins started coming.

We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.

I knew some of the football players in 2008 (none of the big stars, mostly backups) and multiple said the same thing about the transition to CPJ. Chan was a players' coach, and CPJ was a disciplinarian. No mutinies, but they definitely preferred to play for Chan over CPJ.
 
Over the past 4 years Geoff Collins truly implemented the greatest transformation in college football history for Georgia Tech. This transformation was not about the offensive strategy or recruiting rankings, it was about setting expectations very low for every component of Tech football from the players on the field to the fans in the stands. One of the early warning signs for this was replacing the depth chart with the ATL chart. What has traditionally been used as a way to separate those who worked hard for their spot on the team was replaced with a pool for each position. We stood by. We were hungry for a return to prominence and we were promised a stable of 4 and 5 stars to come play for the white and gold. A lot of us saw through the gimmicks but we let it go because we were told, this is what you need to do to recruit biGTime.

However, those gimmicks were the first symptoms of the drop in quality for Georgia Tech. In an effort to create a playground for 18 year olds with a fun coach who pats you on the back even when you öööö up, Geoff Collins managed to create a culture of inferiority on North Avenue. The emphasis on the gimmicks, the swag, moneydown, social media stunts, DJs in practice, Juice Crew, 404theCulture, everything he implemented chipped away at the focus on coaching basics of playing football and turned the program into a circus. For a coach who brought the slogan "Competition is King" to Georgia Tech, he's done anything but instill a competitive drive in his team and instead created an environment where these kids can't improve and even regressed. We watched all this happen. In year one he painted a picture for us where the players he inherited and recruited never played a single down of real football because of his predecessor running option plays out of the wishbone. A loss to Citadel, a loss to his former team Temple and a shutout against VT at home were unacceptable, but we bought the transformation pitch and we lowered our expectations too. Even after a loss to NIU and closing his third year 3-9 with last two losses 100-0, some of us hoped that with a better OC and better assistants and his increased "focus" on defense he might maybe make a bowl game in 2022 to keep his job. That is a very low standard for a fanbase who prides in having 4 national titles. The kids were spoiled into it and we were lied and beaten into it. This is the transformation that Geoff Collins created.

There is no blame to pass around to the players or the fans in this transformation. You, as a single fan, are powerless to enact change. Regardless of when you saw it coming, or when you jumped off the Juice train, or when you stopped donating, you couldn't have helped fight this travesty by yourself. Derrick Moore couldn't and he'd been a source of motivation and a spiritual leader for almost two decades for Georgia Tech. He left. You support the program with donations, you buy season tickets, you buy jerseys, Adidas shirts, hats, you spend 3 hours in Atlanta traffic and pay overpriced parking just to go cheer for the team in your beloved stadium, and at the end of the day you want to hope that all this time, money and effort is for a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't even blame those who still hoped for something to change after WCU game. There's no blaming the players either, if anything they're in victim status because some of them trusted this man to get them ready for the next level for four years and he failed them. Those who finally recognized this at the end of last season did the best thing they could do for themselves and left.

In the coming days or weeks or months, this dark period of Georgia Tech Football will come to an end. For those in power, the losses in fan attendance, revenue and donations will eventually outweigh the cost of firing those responsible for this transformation. Today, we're united in an unprecedented level, at least in my meager 20 year experience of being a Tech fan, in our desire get out of this nightmare and I know each and every one of you will rejoice to see this end, at least until we're at each others' throats about hiring option coaches vs non-option coaches. My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg
excellent post
I hope the next coach will be a no nonsense type who instills discipline,avoids slogans and restores traditions.
We can't get this nightmare over with soon enough.
given the portal, things can turn around reasonably fast..Go Jackets!
 
I said it in the Roddy thread. Geoff said it again yesterday, regarding the losing. It hurts him, but I've never once heard him or inferred from him that it ever makes him angry.

The team has taken on that personality trait from their coach. I think that's where the lack of fight, grit, and battle stems from. Football is an angry man's game. That's what's gonna be hard for the next guy.
 
Over the past 4 years Geoff Collins truly implemented the greatest transformation in college football history for Georgia Tech. This transformation was not about the offensive strategy or recruiting rankings, it was about setting expectations very low for every component of Tech football from the players on the field to the fans in the stands. One of the early warning signs for this was replacing the depth chart with the ATL chart. What has traditionally been used as a way to separate those who worked hard for their spot on the team was replaced with a pool for each position. We stood by. We were hungry for a return to prominence and we were promised a stable of 4 and 5 stars to come play for the white and gold. A lot of us saw through the gimmicks but we let it go because we were told, this is what you need to do to recruit biGTime.

However, those gimmicks were the first symptoms of the drop in quality for Georgia Tech. In an effort to create a playground for 18 year olds with a fun coach who pats you on the back even when you öööö up, Geoff Collins managed to create a culture of inferiority on North Avenue. The emphasis on the gimmicks, the swag, moneydown, social media stunts, DJs in practice, Juice Crew, 404theCulture, everything he implemented chipped away at the focus on coaching basics of playing football and turned the program into a circus. For a coach who brought the slogan "Competition is King" to Georgia Tech, he's done anything but instill a competitive drive in his team and instead created an environment where these kids can't improve and even regressed. We watched all this happen. In year one he painted a picture for us where the players he inherited and recruited never played a single down of real football because of his predecessor running option plays out of the wishbone. A loss to Citadel, a loss to his former team Temple and a shutout against VT at home were unacceptable, but we bought the transformation pitch and we lowered our expectations too. Even after a loss to NIU and closing his third year 3-9 with last two losses 100-0, some of us hoped that with a better OC and better assistants and his increased "focus" on defense he might maybe make a bowl game in 2022 to keep his job. That is a very low standard for a fanbase who prides in having 4 national titles. The kids were spoiled into it and we were lied and beaten into it. This is the transformation that Geoff Collins created.

There is no blame to pass around to the players or the fans in this transformation. You, as a single fan, are powerless to enact change. Regardless of when you saw it coming, or when you jumped off the Juice train, or when you stopped donating, you couldn't have helped fight this travesty by yourself. Derrick Moore couldn't and he'd been a source of motivation and a spiritual leader for almost two decades for Georgia Tech. He left. You support the program with donations, you buy season tickets, you buy jerseys, Adidas shirts, hats, you spend 3 hours in Atlanta traffic and pay overpriced parking just to go cheer for the team in your beloved stadium, and at the end of the day you want to hope that all this time, money and effort is for a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't even blame those who still hoped for something to change after WCU game. There's no blaming the players either, if anything they're in victim status because some of them trusted this man to get them ready for the next level for four years and he failed them. Those who finally recognized this at the end of last season did the best thing they could do for themselves and left.

In the coming days or weeks or months, this dark period of Georgia Tech Football will come to an end. For those in power, the losses in fan attendance, revenue and donations will eventually outweigh the cost of firing those responsible for this transformation. Today, we're united in an unprecedented level, at least in my meager 20 year experience of being a Tech fan, in our desire get out of this nightmare and I know each and every one of you will rejoice to see this end, at least until we're at each others' throats about hiring option coaches vs non-option coaches. My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg

Says just about everything that should be said in a matter of fact, unemotional way. Excellent post and I agree with pretty much everything.

Looking back, we really should have seen everything he said about how big the transition was as a big red flag. Even if that was the reality to some extent, your still set your goals and expectations higher if you want to compete at a high level.
 
I said it in the Roddy thread. Geoff said it again yesterday, regarding the losing. It hurts him, but I've never once heard him or inferred from him that ever makes him angry.

The team has taken on that personality trait from their coach. I think that's where the lack of fight, grit, and battle stems from. Football is an angry man's game.
The man doesn't get angry. That's evidenced by the fact that he hasn't fired his hair stylist.
 
What scares the hell out of me is that we are headed for a Bill Curry to Bobby Ross transition where the kids are so spoiled that the new hardass coach has a two-year long mutiny before the team accepts his leadership. I had players that transitioned from Curry to Ross tell me directly that they wouldn't play for Ross. That's why we went 2 years without an ACC win. Once Curry's upperclassmen peeled off, (1989) the wins started coming.

We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
The next coach will need to have a huge amount credibility to avoid this scenario. Even then we may have a revolt and exodus. IDK
 
And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
He'll cry and laugh himself to sleep on the pillows of cash he is taking from the GTAA.
He ought to be investigated for fraud or tax evasion. I'm sure his 1040l lists his occupation as coach when it should be clown.
What he's doing is a crime.
 
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