A Culture of Inferiority

erikill said:
Great post - my worry here is this also part of the indifference from the hill on athletics? Could they care less about this sport that occurs every Saturday in the fall but our rankings in US News and World report continues to climb....why do they have to be mutually exclusive and not have top student athletes and campus culture?
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Our USNWR ranking isn't climbing. We're (#44) only 5 spots above UGA (#49).

Bud Peterson's decade was terrible in almost every way.
 
00Burdell said:
What scares the hell out of me is that we are headed for a Bill Curry to Bobby Ross transition where the kids are so spoiled that the new hardass coach has a two-year long mutiny before the team accepts his leadership. I had players that transitioned from Curry to Ross tell me directly that they wouldn't play for Ross. That's why we went 2 years without an ACC win. Once Curry's upperclassmen peeled off, (1989) the wins started coming.

We are looking at 2025 before we wake up from this nightmare. And I hope Collins never has a restful night of sleep for the rest of his miserable existence for what he has done to the players and fans.
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I think with the portal the.ones not buying in will quickly be gone. We truly need an adult in the room in the worst way possible. Hopefully we can replace the departing ones just as quickly
 
LagrangeJacket said:
Our USNWR ranking isn't climbing. We're (#44) only 5 spots above UGA (#49).

Bud Peterson's decade was terrible in almost every way.
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Overall school rankings yeah - but they tote about the engineering school comparisons / ROI
www.gatech.edu

Rankings

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Our B school at least for work now is a feeder school (which is great), but still we should easily be top 25 MBA.
 
JoltinJacket said:
I'm a sadist, so I went digging on this and you're absolutely right. Cackling as he backpedaled toward the sidelines.

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I was telling someone about this, I've never seen Gef ever get in a refs face and yell about a bad call or spot. He's a real life Ted Lasso without the mustache and hair....and at least wins in american football
 
Akinji07 said:
Over the past 4 years Geoff Collins truly implemented the greatest transformation in college football history for Georgia Tech. This transformation was not about the offensive strategy or recruiting rankings, it was about setting expectations very low for every component of Tech football from the players on the field to the fans in the stands. One of the early warning signs for this was replacing the depth chart with the ATL chart. What has traditionally been used as a way to separate those who worked hard for their spot on the team was replaced with a pool for each position. We stood by. We were hungry for a return to prominence and we were promised a stable of 4 and 5 stars to come play for the white and gold. A lot of us saw through the gimmicks but we let it go because we were told, this is what you need to do to recruit biGTime.

However, those gimmicks were the first symptoms of the drop in quality for Georgia Tech. In an effort to create a playground for 18 year olds with a fun coach who pats you on the back even when you öööö up, Geoff Collins managed to create a culture of inferiority on North Avenue. The emphasis on the gimmicks, the swag, moneydown, social media stunts, DJs in practice, Juice Crew, 404theCulture, everything he implemented chipped away at the focus on coaching basics of playing football and turned the program into a circus. For a coach who brought the slogan "Competition is King" to Georgia Tech, he's done anything but instill a competitive drive in his team and instead created an environment where these kids can't improve and even regressed. We watched all this happen. In year one he painted a picture for us where the players he inherited and recruited never played a single down of real football because of his predecessor running option plays out of the wishbone. A loss to Citadel, a loss to his former team Temple and a shutout against VT at home were unacceptable, but we bought the transformation pitch and we lowered our expectations too. Even after a loss to NIU and closing his third year 3-9 with last two losses 100-0, some of us hoped that with a better OC and better assistants and his increased "focus" on defense he might maybe make a bowl game in 2022 to keep his job. That is a very low standard for a fanbase who prides in having 4 national titles. The kids were spoiled into it and we were lied and beaten into it. This is the transformation that Geoff Collins created.

There is no blame to pass around to the players or the fans in this transformation. You, as a single fan, are powerless to enact change. Regardless of when you saw it coming, or when you jumped off the Juice train, or when you stopped donating, you couldn't have helped fight this travesty by yourself. Derrick Moore couldn't and he'd been a source of motivation and a spiritual leader for almost two decades for Georgia Tech. He left. You support the program with donations, you buy season tickets, you buy jerseys, Adidas shirts, hats, you spend 3 hours in Atlanta traffic and pay overpriced parking just to go cheer for the team in your beloved stadium, and at the end of the day you want to hope that all this time, money and effort is for a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't even blame those who still hoped for something to change after WCU game. There's no blaming the players either, if anything they're in victim status because some of them trusted this man to get them ready for the next level for four years and he failed them. Those who finally recognized this at the end of last season did the best thing they could do for themselves and left.

In the coming days or weeks or months, this dark period of Georgia Tech Football will come to an end. For those in power, the losses in fan attendance, revenue and donations will eventually outweigh the cost of firing those responsible for this transformation. Today, we're united in an unprecedented level, at least in my meager 20 year experience of being a Tech fan, in our desire get out of this nightmare and I know each and every one of you will rejoice to see this end, at least until we're at each others' throats about hiring option coaches vs non-option coaches. My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg
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Ya but he was once called an elite defensive coach by otherz. Why do u choose not to see that...
 
Lol I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one. I swear I watch all the games too...
 
Akinji07 said:
Over the past 4 years Geoff Collins truly implemented the greatest transformation in college football history for Georgia Tech. This transformation was not about the offensive strategy or recruiting rankings, it was about setting expectations very low for every component of Tech football from the players on the field to the fans in the stands. One of the early warning signs for this was replacing the depth chart with the ATL chart. What has traditionally been used as a way to separate those who worked hard for their spot on the team was replaced with a pool for each position. We stood by. We were hungry for a return to prominence and we were promised a stable of 4 and 5 stars to come play for the white and gold. A lot of us saw through the gimmicks but we let it go because we were told, this is what you need to do to recruit biGTime.

However, those gimmicks were the first symptoms of the drop in quality for Georgia Tech. In an effort to create a playground for 18 year olds with a fun coach who pats you on the back even when you öööö up, Geoff Collins managed to create a culture of inferiority on North Avenue. The emphasis on the gimmicks, the swag, moneydown, social media stunts, DJs in practice, Juice Crew, 404theCulture, everything he implemented chipped away at the focus on coaching basics of playing football and turned the program into a circus. For a coach who brought the slogan "Competition is King" to Georgia Tech, he's done anything but instill a competitive drive in his team and instead created an environment where these kids can't improve and even regressed. We watched all this happen. In year one he painted a picture for us where the players he inherited and recruited never played a single down of real football because of his predecessor running option plays out of the wishbone. A loss to Citadel, a loss to his former team Temple and a shutout against VT at home were unacceptable, but we bought the transformation pitch and we lowered our expectations too. Even after a loss to NIU and closing his third year 3-9 with last two losses 100-0, some of us hoped that with a better OC and better assistants and his increased "focus" on defense he might maybe make a bowl game in 2022 to keep his job. That is a very low standard for a fanbase who prides in having 4 national titles. The kids were spoiled into it and we were lied and beaten into it. This is the transformation that Geoff Collins created.

There is no blame to pass around to the players or the fans in this transformation. You, as a single fan, are powerless to enact change. Regardless of when you saw it coming, or when you jumped off the Juice train, or when you stopped donating, you couldn't have helped fight this travesty by yourself. Derrick Moore couldn't and he'd been a source of motivation and a spiritual leader for almost two decades for Georgia Tech. He left. You support the program with donations, you buy season tickets, you buy jerseys, Adidas shirts, hats, you spend 3 hours in Atlanta traffic and pay overpriced parking just to go cheer for the team in your beloved stadium, and at the end of the day you want to hope that all this time, money and effort is for a light at the end of the tunnel. I can't even blame those who still hoped for something to change after WCU game. There's no blaming the players either, if anything they're in victim status because some of them trusted this man to get them ready for the next level for four years and he failed them. Those who finally recognized this at the end of last season did the best thing they could do for themselves and left.

In the coming days or weeks or months, this dark period of Georgia Tech Football will come to an end. For those in power, the losses in fan attendance, revenue and donations will eventually outweigh the cost of firing those responsible for this transformation. Today, we're united in an unprecedented level, at least in my meager 20 year experience of being a Tech fan, in our desire get out of this nightmare and I know each and every one of you will rejoice to see this end, at least until we're at each others' throats about hiring option coaches vs non-option coaches. My biggest hope for this program is that whoever we hire is someone who does not have low standards, who doesn't favor coddling the players over educating them and who reverses this greatest transformation in college football history to make all of us not be ok with a culture of inferiority.

Go Jackets and THWg
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Agree. I would not give the players a complete pass. I agree with Roddy Jones. He did not. Regardless of your head coach, you can choose to either give your best effort or not. it’s a conscious decision.
 
andrew said:
Lol I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one. I swear I watch all the games too...
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I was at this game. We threw a decent tailgate on the bridge. We even made fun of the two VT dudes who were hugging each other while one was sitting on the other dude’s lap. Yet last night when I was writing this I thought at first it was a loss in Blacksburg. It’s like it got erased from our memories collectively.
 
TechRush said:
Are we sure this happened. I have no memory of it either. We lost to VT 45-0? Post Beamer VT? WTF?
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On Heroes Day! The post game press conference is gold.

"Virginia Tech had the best overall roster we have seen since Temple."

"It still comes down to executing at a high level."

We have to do a better job of communicating."

"We'll go back, watch the film, and get it corrected."

Re: The motion penalty on the first play of the game - "That's on me. We'll get it corrected."

Confusingly, we beat NCSU on Thursday, five days later.
 
The not remembering the blowout losses is how they know the gaslighting is working.
 
I don’t remember that 45-0 VT blowout either. Which is weird, because my FIL is a hokie. We used to talk a lot of trash during football season, but now he just feels sorry for us. Even though they’re still doing standard hokie things like losing to Old Dominion.
 
clapper said:
On Heroes Day! The post game press conference is gold.

"Virginia Tech had the best overall roster we have seen since Temple."

"It still comes down to executing at a high level."

We have to do a better job of communicating."

"We'll go back, watch the film, and get it corrected."

Re: The motion penalty on the first play of the game - "That's on me. We'll get it corrected."

Confusingly, we beat NCSU on Thursday, five days later.
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Wasn't that NC State minus its top 8 defensive backs that night?
They had been hammered with injuries that year.
 
jdubjacket said:
You're right. The first 51-7 under CCG against UGA is burned into my brain, as is the second one against VT. Or the 39-3 shelacking Clemson gave us in 2003. But the blowouts have become so commonplace under The Clown, they're tough to keep up with.
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I remember that uga game vividly. Most points uga had scored on Tech I believe. At the end of the game Gailey stood on the sidelines alone, about 20 yards from the players. Probably thinking, "what the hell have I gotten into" !!
 
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