A thread about uga

With a lot of state legislate being filled with mutt grads will this really get big?
 
Nothing is going to happen to Kirby or their program, so might as well file this under the whatevs category. No one out in Athens cares to change or address the issues, so yeah.
 
They probably gave the family a boatload to shut up. Sad reality.

I heard that the family of the killed lineman may have changed their minds and were moving forward with a lawsuit.
 
They need to either arrest these guys with no bond and like 6 months jail time or something. They literally do not care, and the athletic department just bails them out every time. Gantt should have to document that the cash that comes "from the families" actually came from them. Why do these players get $500,000 NIL deals, but can't pay their $600 traffic fines? Someone needs to arrange a mass protest in Athens because it's a danger to the public for these players to keep driving like this. Have we considered that they just can't read the 2 digit numbers on the speed limit signs?
 
Need to get this escalated to national news somehow. 60 Minutes investigation or something. Or they're going to kill more people
 
These reckless driving issues are just tip of the iceberg stuff. All of this was easily predictable. Overgrown coddled children with no off-field discipline, an open checkbook of money and favors, and no accountability leads to what is happening in Athens. The "adults" in the room make too much money to rock the gravy train. Corrupt to the core. Sign of the times.

Reckless driving is just the most obvious, public and trackable symptom of what is almost certainly a much more serious and pervasive problem in Athens. Seeing what is happening on the roads should lead to questions of what is happening behind the closed doors.

Kudos to the very few remaining actual journalists with the cojones to do what amounts to basic reporting. It has become rare.

Editorial comment: What is going on in Athens is just a microcosm of a much broader culture of corruption and lack of accountability spreading throughout the country and beyond. There's a lot more "reckless driving" beyond just the fast and furious in Athens.

It's all gonna get much worse before it gets better. Buckle up.
 
For those without an AJC subscription, this is the Torpy article @thracer posted


OPINION: Athens, where Mayberry meets ‘Fast and Furious’
A photo of the 2021 Ford Expedition that came to rest at the Shoal Creek Apartment complex after a crash early Sunday morning. Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock and football staff member Chandler LeCroy died in the accident

Caption
Credit: Photo provided by Ceciley Pangburn

ONLY ON AJC: TORPY AT LARGE
By Bill Torpy, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
5 hours ago

We should be concerned about the University of Georgia football team’s endemic recklessness on the road.
But we shouldn’t be surprised. Here you have young testosterone-charged physical dynamos in the prime of life, paid to play a violent game, assured they’re invincible, given keys to powerful high-octane vehicles, and apparently not facing much discipline when they screw up.

That, in sum, is the Bulldogs, according to a deeply reported investigative story in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Granted, the Dogs are terrific on the field, and that’s why we love them. That’s also why this is so troubling.

UGA coach Kirby Smart has been largely mute when it comes to how and when he punishes his players. I get that. You keep it in-house to prevent further public embarrassment of emerging adults. Besides, you don’t want a stud D-lineman copping an attitude against the coach and transferring to ‘Bama.
Back in 2019, Smart took blame for a rash of team arrests. “I’ve obviously done a poor job with this group of connecting and making sure they listen and understand,” he said.

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1/10/22 - Indianapolis -Georgia Bulldogs head coach Kirby Smart with Georgia Bulldogs defensive lineman Jalen Carter (88) after his blocked field goal in the third quarter at the 2022 College Football Playoff National Championship  between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Alabama Crimson Tide at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Monday, January 10, 2022.   Curtis Compton / Curtis.Compton@ajc.com

Credit: Curtis Compton / curtis.compton@ajc.com

More recently, there’s a sense of, “We got this.”
“Everybody wants to know what the punishment is,” Smart said after a recent run of arrests. “Well, the players know what the punishment is.”

Well, there you go. That might be the problem. They know the punishment — yet don’t think its bad enough to stop them from what they’re doing.
Granted, people know that shooting at someone carries stiff penalties, yet they keep doing it. But are we going to compare matriculating athletes at the state’s main university (sorry,Tech) with violent criminals?
The AJC story noted suspensions are rare in KirbyWorld. Perhaps they get a good talkin’ to. In one instance, a group of “knuckleheads” (the term the team’s paid babysitter uses) had to run stairs while a gaggle of donors watched.
Now, that’s entertainment.
Actually, the players are getting a talkin’ to by cops after getting stopped for rocketing around town. The officers are often deferential to the athletic princes and try to cut them slack while appealing to their common sense.
Last October, an officer pulled over star cornerback Kelee Ringo going 91 in a 65-mph zone. Ringo got off with a warning.
But whatever the cop told him, it didn’t sink in. Six days later, the same officer stopped Ringo again. On the same road. Going 94 mph. This time he got a ticket.
Last September, star defensive lineman Jalen Carter was driving twice the speed limit — 89 in a 45-mph zone — when he was stopped on a busy street near downtown Athens. Body cam footage shows Carter getting a lecture with his ticket.
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Surveillance footage from Athens police shows the black Ford Expedition driven by UGA recruiting analyst Chandler LeCroy waiting at a downtown traffic light on E. Clayton Street approximately five minutes before the  Jan. 15 crash that killed her and lineman Devin Willock. The black Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk in front of the Expedition matches the description of UGA defensive star Jalen Carter's vehicle.  Police questioned Carter the night of the crash about whether he was racing the Expedition. He told police he was not driving fast or racing, records show. (source: Athens Clarke-County police.)

Credit: Athens Clarke-County Police Surveillance footage

The officer mentioned he had pinched two of his teammates in the past day for speeding.
The familiarity makes Athens seem like Mayberry — with a splash of “Fast and Furious.”
“I’ve stopped a bunch of y’all’s football players; y’all need to slow down, dude” the officer said, adding, “Your break is not going to jail. That’s your break. It’d make all kinds of news.”
Neither the lenience nor lecture sunk in. In January, after celebrating the team’s back-to-back national championships, Carter, in his high-performance Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk, got into a high-speed street race with Chandler LeCroy, a UGA staffer driving a Ford Expedition.
Athens police said the drivers “switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed, in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other.”
The Expedition hit 104 mph right before running off the road, striking utility poles, trees and, finally, an apartment building. LeCroy, 24, and lineman Devin Willock, 20, died. Two others were injured. Tests showed she was drunk.
UGA also knew she had a lead foot — four speeding tickets in six years.
Carter, set to become rich in the upcoming NFL draft, vanished from the scene. Later, he pleaded no contest to reckless driving and racing charges. He paid a $1,013 fine and got 12 months’ probation.
Again, neither reprimands nor tragedy seems to register.
Last month, wide receiver DeNylon Morrissette was driving his Dodge Charger about 3:30 a.m. when he rear-ended another car. An officer cited him for DUI.
Weeks before, Morrissette got stopped for 81 in a 45-mph zone.
“Y’all got to slow down,” the cop told him that time. “We’ve been getting all of y’all a lot. You obviously know about the wreck and stuff.”
You’d think.
The high-performance rides — Dodge Chargers seem to be a favorite — have come about because of the “name, image and likeness” (NIL) deals that now allow players to be semi-professional during their college careers. Players can now zoom about town in style. Or lay some drag if they wish.
The AJC analysis found that players’ speeds have risen sharply in recent years. In 2019, the average speeding ticket for Bulldogs was 54 mph. This year, it’s 79.
My advice to Coach Smart: Demand players put governors on their cars. Or glue blocks of wood under their accelerators.
They’ll hate it. But it may keep someone breathing.
 
For those without an AJC subscription, this is the Torpy article @thracer posted


OPINION: Athens, where Mayberry meets ‘Fast and Furious’
A photo of the 2021 Ford Expedition that came to rest at the Shoal Creek Apartment complex after a crash early Sunday morning. Georgia offensive lineman Devin Willock and football staff member Chandler LeCroy died in the accident

Caption
Credit: Photo provided by Ceciley Pangburn

ONLY ON AJC: TORPY AT LARGE
By Bill Torpy, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
5 hours ago

We should be concerned about the University of Georgia football team’s endemic recklessness on the road.
But we shouldn’t be surprised. Here you have young testosterone-charged physical dynamos in the prime of life, paid to play a violent game, assured they’re invincible, given keys to powerful high-octane vehicles, and apparently not facing much discipline when they screw up.

That, in sum, is the Bulldogs, according to a deeply reported investigative story in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Granted, the Dogs are terrific on the field, and that’s why we love them. That’s also why this is so troubling.

UGA coach Kirby Smart has been largely mute when it comes to how and when he punishes his players. I get that. You keep it in-house to prevent further public embarrassment of emerging adults. Besides, you don’t want a stud D-lineman copping an attitude against the coach and transferring to ‘Bama.
Back in 2019, Smart took blame for a rash of team arrests. “I’ve obviously done a poor job with this group of connecting and making sure they listen and understand,” he said.

Caption
1/10/22 - Indianapolis -Georgia Bulldogs head coach Kirby Smart with Georgia Bulldogs defensive lineman Jalen Carter (88) after his blocked field goal in the third quarter at the 2022 College Football Playoff National Championship  between the Georgia Bulldogs and the Alabama Crimson Tide at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis on Monday, January 10, 2022.   Curtis Compton / Curtis.Compton@ajc.com

Credit: Curtis Compton / curtis.compton@ajc.com

More recently, there’s a sense of, “We got this.”
“Everybody wants to know what the punishment is,” Smart said after a recent run of arrests. “Well, the players know what the punishment is.”

Well, there you go. That might be the problem. They know the punishment — yet don’t think its bad enough to stop them from what they’re doing.
Granted, people know that shooting at someone carries stiff penalties, yet they keep doing it. But are we going to compare matriculating athletes at the state’s main university (sorry,Tech) with violent criminals?
The AJC story noted suspensions are rare in KirbyWorld. Perhaps they get a good talkin’ to. In one instance, a group of “knuckleheads” (the term the team’s paid babysitter uses) had to run stairs while a gaggle of donors watched.
Now, that’s entertainment.
Actually, the players are getting a talkin’ to by cops after getting stopped for rocketing around town. The officers are often deferential to the athletic princes and try to cut them slack while appealing to their common sense.
Last October, an officer pulled over star cornerback Kelee Ringo going 91 in a 65-mph zone. Ringo got off with a warning.
But whatever the cop told him, it didn’t sink in. Six days later, the same officer stopped Ringo again. On the same road. Going 94 mph. This time he got a ticket.
Last September, star defensive lineman Jalen Carter was driving twice the speed limit — 89 in a 45-mph zone — when he was stopped on a busy street near downtown Athens. Body cam footage shows Carter getting a lecture with his ticket.
Caption
Surveillance footage from Athens police shows the black Ford Expedition driven by UGA recruiting analyst Chandler LeCroy waiting at a downtown traffic light on E. Clayton Street approximately five minutes before the  Jan. 15 crash that killed her and lineman Devin Willock. The black Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk in front of the Expedition matches the description of UGA defensive star Jalen Carter's vehicle.  Police questioned Carter the night of the crash about whether he was racing the Expedition. He told police he was not driving fast or racing, records show. (source: Athens Clarke-County police.)'s vehicle.  Police questioned Carter the night of the crash about whether he was racing the Expedition. He told police he was not driving fast or racing, records show. (source: Athens Clarke-County police.)

Credit: Athens Clarke-County Police Surveillance footage

The officer mentioned he had pinched two of his teammates in the past day for speeding.
The familiarity makes Athens seem like Mayberry — with a splash of “Fast and Furious.”
“I’ve stopped a bunch of y’all’s football players; y’all need to slow down, dude” the officer said, adding, “Your break is not going to jail. That’s your break. It’d make all kinds of news.”
Neither the lenience nor lecture sunk in. In January, after celebrating the team’s back-to-back national championships, Carter, in his high-performance Jeep Cherokee Trackhawk, got into a high-speed street race with Chandler LeCroy, a UGA staffer driving a Ford Expedition.
Athens police said the drivers “switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists and drove at high rates of speed, in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other.”
The Expedition hit 104 mph right before running off the road, striking utility poles, trees and, finally, an apartment building. LeCroy, 24, and lineman Devin Willock, 20, died. Two others were injured. Tests showed she was drunk.
UGA also knew she had a lead foot — four speeding tickets in six years.
Carter, set to become rich in the upcoming NFL draft, vanished from the scene. Later, he pleaded no contest to reckless driving and racing charges. He paid a $1,013 fine and got 12 months’ probation.
Again, neither reprimands nor tragedy seems to register.
Last month, wide receiver DeNylon Morrissette was driving his Dodge Charger about 3:30 a.m. when he rear-ended another car. An officer cited him for DUI.
Weeks before, Morrissette got stopped for 81 in a 45-mph zone.
“Y’all got to slow down,” the cop told him that time. “We’ve been getting all of y’all a lot. You obviously know about the wreck and stuff.”
You’d think.
The high-performance rides — Dodge Chargers seem to be a favorite — have come about because of the “name, image and likeness” (NIL) deals that now allow players to be semi-professional during their college careers. Players can now zoom about town in style. Or lay some drag if they wish.
The AJC analysis found that players’ speeds have risen sharply in recent years. In 2019, the average speeding ticket for Bulldogs was 54 mph. This year, it’s 79.
My advice to Coach Smart: Demand players put governors on their cars. Or glue blocks of wood under their accelerators.
They’ll hate it. But it may keep someone breathing.

A lot of buildup for a limp-wristed ending
 
Lots of young people speed. My niece recently got ticket for going 90+ in a 55. Sort of seems to be a problem all around. Lots of cultural issues these days, accentuated by the money flow that’s now legal to young top athletes.
 
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