ACC, B1G, and Pac-12 alliance announcement- I fixed it

gtfan088 said:
Dumb to come out with anything publicly before you have any substantive weight behind this "alliance." Just makes the whole thing appear desperate and ad hoc.
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gtfan088 said:
Dumb to come out with anything publicly before you have any substantive weight behind this "alliance." Just makes the whole thing appear desperate and ad hoc.
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Agreed. Nothing about this is going to give the SEC pause about further poaching. At this point, I would rather see every conference for itself.
 
ScionOfSouthland said:
I wonder how much longer the UGA rivalry will survive
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Why would it not survive? Don’t believe the shit you hear from uga fans about how they don’t care about this game. They say to get under your skin. They very much care about this game. I don’t see that changing.
 
Akinji07 said:
Why would it not survive? Don’t believe the öööö you hear from uga fans about how they don’t care about this game. They say to get under your skin. They very much care about this game. I don’t see that changing.
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I think both fanbases still want the game I just wonder how much farther the realignment stuff will go until it hits a point where we are effectively in a different league than them and the game goes by the wayside
 
Akinji07 said:
Why would it not survive? Don’t believe the öööö you hear from uga fans about how they don’t care about this game. They say to get under your skin. They very much care about this game. I don’t see that changing.
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I think if it was up to the schools in a vacuum it would definitely continue. But if the SEC or ACC says they're going to ten conference games then who knows what will happen. Tech's AD may look at it as an almost guaranteed loss that takes up a home slot every other year and decide to keep a patsy game over it. Similarly, U[sic]GA may choose the permanent home game over us. Everyone wants money.

Sadly, we've seen plenty of historic rivalries tossed by the wayside due to conference realignment.
 
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Yukonwreck said:
Dan Patrick suggested the SEC go all in for domination and establish a western SEC division of USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Cal, and throw in Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M.
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Why would the SEC water itself down with Pac12 schools?
 
Watched the 3 commissioner press conference just now.
All appear in favor of a 12 team playoff, but details tbd at next (September) meeting. My assumption is these three will vote as a block, which presumably means they can outvote the SEC.
The emphasis is on stability/less volatility and shared values.
Stability (including the survival of this informal alliance) has to mean none of these three conferences raid each other.
I suppose shared values includes trying to slow college sports professionalization (good luck with that), importance of the traditional student-athlete culture, the collegiate model.
Honoring current schedule commitments, but looking how to develop new inter-conference rivalries over time.
 
At various times in the past, since Tech left the SEC, suggestions have been made to move it from the last game of the year to the first (or at least early) game of the year. That was rebuffed every time. Sadly, that MIGHT actually happen this time.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
At various times in the past, since Tech left the SEC, suggestions have been made to move it from the last game of the year to the first (or at least early) game of the year. That was rebuffed every time. Sadly, that MIGHT actually happen this time.
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I’m generally an old-fashioned traditionalist, but I’m tired of playing U[sic]GA. I wouldn’t want us to initiate the end of the series, but if they wanted to end it, I’d be happy to never have to think about them again.

That rivalry stopped being fun a long time ago. As much fun as beating them should be, it brings more of a sense of relief than any real joy, and it looks like it’s going to be a good long while before we beat them again.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
I’m generally an old-fashioned traditionalist, but I’m tired of playing U[sic]GA. I wouldn’t want us to initiate the end of the series, but if they wanted to end it, I’d be happy to never have to think about them again.

That rivalry stopped being fun a long time ago. As much fun as beating them should be, it brings more of a sense of relief than any real joy, and it looks like it’s going to be a good long while before we beat them again.

JRjr
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Relax. Look at this if you want to see real misery. Look at the game results.
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vapspwi said:
I’m generally an old-fashioned traditionalist, but I’m tired of playing U[sic]GA. I wouldn’t want us to initiate the end of the series, but if they wanted to end it, I’d be happy to never have to think about them again.

That rivalry stopped being fun a long time ago. As much fun as beating them should be, it brings more of a sense of relief than any real joy, and it looks like it’s going to be a good long while before we beat them again.

JRjr
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I half-way agree with what you said, but I definitely felt more than mere relief in 2008, 2014, and 2016. I was filled with TOTAL UNINHIBITED JOY !!!
 
This alliance is a joke. All talk and no substance. All this talk of the alliance having the numbers to out vote the SEC is just pathetic and wreaks of everyone should get a trophy. No wonder the PAC 12 is leading the way. They sure can’t win anything on the field.

And all of this appears to simply be a reaction to the SEC being good at football. Yeah, let’s black ball a group because they are good. This is what the world has come to.
 
OptionJacket said:
This alliance is a joke. All talk and no substance. All this talk of the alliance having the numbers to out vote the SEC is just pathetic and wreaks of everyone should get a trophy. No wonder the PAC 12 is leading the way. They sure can’t win anything on the field.

And all of this appears to simply be a reaction to the SEC being good at football. Yeah, let’s black ball a group because they are good. This is what the world has come to.
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Myopic view of college athletics IMO, through the lens of football which of course pays bills, but ADs, university presidents and conference commissioners deal with bigger picture issues and most (outside the SEC) appear to not want college football to become any more of an NFL farm league than it already is.
So these organizations are of course political. Nothing new.
It’s too early to judge substance. Did anyone expect an alliance detailed playbook in the press conference today?
Regarding the pac12, I know this is a football forum, but I think Stanford has the record for winning the Director’s Cup 23 times for overall athletic program excellence.
 
pianoman said:
Myopic view of college athletics IMO, through the lens of football which of course pays bills, but ADs, university presidents and conference commissioners deal with bigger picture issues and most (outside the SEC) appear to not want college football to become any more of an NFL farm league than it already is.
So these organizations are of course political. Nothing new.
It’s too early to judge substance. Did anyone expect an alliance detailed playbook in the press conference today?
Regarding the pac12, I know this is a football forum, but I think Stanford has the record for winning the Director’s Cup 23 times for overall athletic program excellence.
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i think the alliance a good idea and they shouln't play their hand until necessary. i think this looks bad for sec - like we have had enough of your recruiting cheating via setting up huge recruiting organzations along with probable under the table transactions, no concern about academics in sports and last but not least backstabbing of negotiating at the table with someone you are about to destroy via a takeover (big12). You can call it sour grapes or you can be honest and call it true - up to you.
 
I think this is 100% about messaging. The message sent to the SEC is this - you have screwed up what was working great for the Power 5 by taking Texas and Oklahoma. So, be clear, the other three conferences are going to stay together, stay strong, and work collaboratively. You can add all the rest of the Big 12 you want and any other non P5 schools and we may do the same. But, you have angered us enough that we are committed to working together, just the three of us, with you on the outside.

One scenario that could emerge is a college football system with two major groups - the SEC and the Power Three. The SEC might end up not getting any games with the P3. SEC would cut its TV deals, the P3 would cut their deals. The P3 would encourage interleague play. The college Super Bowl might be between the champions of the SEC versus the champions of the P3. Each group could work out its own playoff system to determine a champion.

I could actually get excited about this playing out.
 
I agree that this is about posturing/messaging. I think they pushed the PAC 10 simply because they are the weakest link now and need that third vote to matter. Let's be honest. This whole thing started with the SEC/ND posturing for themselves. I think the other three recognize that they need to hold serve a bit and that's all they are saying.

I think the SEC will simply schedule the weak Big12 teams, cover their tracks, etc. The rest of the Big 12 are absolutely perfect bait for the SEC.
 
midatlantech said:
I think the SEC will simply schedule the weak Big12 teams, cover their tracks, etc. The rest of the Big 12 are absolutely perfect bait for the SEC.
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It would make sense for the P3 to add those teams and a few more just to bank more anti-SEC AD votes. What's left of the BIG 12 have to be very anti-SEC now anyway, but that would seal it.
 
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