ACC Coaches Anonymously Speak ahead of 2023 season

You can win 7-8 games with a decent OL - assuming you have above average skill position players. Unfortunately, Gibbs has been the only guy that checks that box recently.

I’m not gonna complain if we have an above average OL, but it won’t matter if the guys touching the ball are average themselves.
What? Gibbs the only recent above average offensive skill player? He's a first-round draft choice, so I wouldn't use him to define "above average." However, these are the GA Tech recent offensive players fighting for or on NFL rosters:

Malachi Carter - WR (Bengals)
Hassan Hall - RB (Browns)
Tyler Davis - TE (Packers)
Jalen Camp - WR (Texans)
Jordan Mason - RB (49ers)
Kyric McGowan - WR (Commies)

I think you'd have to say all of these skill players were "above average."
 
You can win 7-8 games with a decent OL - assuming you have above average skill position players. Unfortunately, Gibbs has been the only guy that checks that box recently.

I’m not gonna complain if we have an above average OL, but it won’t matter if the guys touching the ball are average themselves.
Donte Smith might be the most underappreciated Jacket of all time.
 
Irony that they talk about our barriers, but go on to compliment Pitt. We have barriers, but so does Pitt. And they don’t have the recruiting advantages of being in Atlanta.

I think CBK is a Narduzzi type hire. Steady build. Steady staff. Improve year over year and wait for a breakout QB.
Pitt recruits coal mining territory.
 
You can win 7-8 games with a decent OL - assuming you have above average skill position players. Unfortunately, Gibbs has been the only guy that checks that box recently.

I’m not gonna complain if we have an above average OL, but it won’t matter if the guys touching the ball are average themselves.

See, I am thinking if the OL turns out alright we will magically find out we have some above average skill players.
 
What? Gibbs the only recent above average offensive skill player? He's a first-round draft choice, so I wouldn't use him to define "above average." However, these are the GA Tech recent offensive players fighting for or on NFL rosters:

Malachi Carter - WR (Bengals)
Hassan Hall - RB (Browns)
Tyler Davis - TE (Packers)
Jalen Camp - WR (Texans)
Jordan Mason - RB (49ers)
Kyric McGowan - WR (Commies)

I think you'd have to say all of these skill players were "above average."
Three of those guys were at Tech for just one year, which means there was plenty of tape on them from their previous stops for scouts (Hall in particular).
And the other three are PJ signees.
 
If children of coal miners were great football players, then Pittsburg and West Virginia would never lose.
Pittsburgh also gets plenty of steel worker kids.
West Virginia gets em from couch burning.
 
What a lazy take. He knocks our ability to utilize the portal then doubted a high level recruit (King), whom we obtained through the portal, could be successful. And I’m not sure what point he was making about CBK being an OL coach. I bet the writer made all this up.
if you look closely, what the opposing anonymous coach (yeah, and I just chewed out IT for taking up my computer for an hour on a day when I have deadlines and here I am burning time on StingTalk. But, hey, that's important) said was in quotation marks.
The paragraph after that was not, leading me to think it was not the coach but the nimrod from 247 or Athlons putting his take on things.
So there are two different people weighing on there - the coach first, then Mr. Writer Dude second.
 
if you look closely, what the opposing anonymous coach (yeah, and I just chewed out IT for taking up my computer for an hour on a day when I have deadlines and here I am burning time on StingTalk. But, hey, that's important) said was in quotation marks.
The paragraph after that was not, leading me to think it was not the coach but the nimrod from 247 or Athlons putting his take on things.
So there are two different people weighing on there - the coach first, then Mr. Writer Dude second.
There's another thing that isn't said until later in the article. These don't seem to be all the things coaches, they are the "highlights" selected by this guy who seems to be a writer for the UVA 247 site(?) along with their commentary. And maybe cause it is on 247 they really focused on stuff about talent and recruiting.
 
Three of those guys were at Tech for just one year, which means there was plenty of tape on them from their previous stops for scouts (Hall in particular).
And the other three are PJ signees.
So? He said there was substandard offensive skill talent the last 4 years. It matters not hiw they got to Tech or how long they stayed. Yhey all played. Can we at least all acknowledge that?
 
What a lazy take. He knocks our ability to utilize the portal then doubted a high level recruit (King), whom we obtained through the portal, could be successful. And I’m not sure what point he was making about CBK being an OL coach. I bet the writer made all this up.

Maybe it was all written by ChatGPT. But then I thought that might actually be an insult to ChatGPT so I asked it to craft a rebuttal:

Ah, the sweet scent of desperation wafts from this article like a perfume too cheap even for the dollar store. I'd congratulate the author on a stunning display of baseless conjecture, but that would imply there’s something noteworthy about frothing out hollow musings. So, Brent Key is facing doom because he’s an offensive line coach? Such analytical depth; let's all pack up and go home. I wonder how many minutes were spent Googling that one.

Ah, the resplendent aroma of irony wafts through the pages of this article, as the author simultaneously diminishes Georgia Tech’s ability to harness the portal while casting aspersions on Haynes King, a beacon of talent acquired – wait for it – through the portal. The coup de grâce, is the audacity to question King's potential success at Georgia Tech after casting doubt on our use of the very mechanism through which he was recruited. The mental gymnastics on display here could qualify for the Special Olympics. The cherry on this monstrosity is the phantom whispers from “opposing ACC coaches.” Unnamed sources? How Watergate.

In conclusion, it is quite evident that this article must have been pieced together by the Matt Damon World Police doll version of Bard. It possesses all the flair of a wind-up toy, parroting words without substance or logic. The result: an article with all the coherence of a Rubik’s Cube solved by a blindfolded squirrel.
 
I remember reading one of those preseason magazines back in the 90s and it was touting all of Duke's offensive line starters returning and all I could think was, but it's still Duke.
 
What? Gibbs the only recent above average offensive skill player? He's a first-round draft choice, so I wouldn't use him to define "above average." However, these are the GA Tech recent offensive players fighting for or on NFL rosters:

Malachi Carter - WR (Bengals)
Hassan Hall - RB (Browns)
Tyler Davis - TE (Packers)
Jalen Camp - WR (Texans)
Jordan Mason - RB (49ers)
Kyric McGowan - WR (Commies)

I think you'd have to say all of these skill players were "above average."


Please list all the times those guys made All-ACC. Hell, I’ll even let you include Honorable Mention.
 
So average equals All ACC?

I would think all agree that making all-ACC means you above average - for that year at least. Of the guys you listed, I think Mason was the only one to achieve that distinction. The rest are the definition of “average.”

If you want to argue they were underutilized and had unseen talent, sure. Making an NFL roster seems a decent way to start making that case (although did Middleton or Godsey make an NFL roster? They were pretty good).
 
I would think all agree that making all-ACC means you above average - for that year at least. Of the guys you listed, I think Mason was the only one to achieve that distinction. The rest are the definition of “average.”

If you want to argue they were underutilized and had unseen talent, sure. Making an NFL roster seems a decent way to start making that case (although did Middleton or Godsey make an NFL roster? They were pretty good).
That's not the question. It is: Does a player have to make All ACC to be considered above average?

The statement I'm contending is that Gibbs was the only above average offensive skill player on the roster the past few years. I listed about a half dozen who are on, or have a chance to be on, an NFL roster. Your response was how many of them made All ACC? My response was intended to assert that there are many above average players in any conference that do not get all-conference honors, so then - above average is not defined by being all conference.

There are what... 4 All ACC teams, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and HM? That's 4 full teams worth of players. There are 14 teams in the conference. So, the other 10 teams worth of players are all below average? Only 4 out of 14 starters across the conference are above average?
 
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