ACC Commissioner faces questions of conference revenue gaps, realignment

Tampa Jacket said:
We should have jumped ship in a row boat 15 years ago. Now the bow is tilting, water is pouring in, but the band played on….
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Anywhere we could have actually jumped to 15 years ago would now be just as likely to result in us being left out in the cold.
 
WracerX said:
How many schools needed to dissolve the GOR? If it is a majority, It won’t happen. You’d need 8 ACC schools going to greener pastures, but UVA/ VT and UNC/NCSt are attached at the hip. You would have to have the B1G taking UVA and UNC, because VT/NCSt aren’t AAU. I’m not sure NCSt brings enough value to the SEC.

Then you would have to pull 4 move from the remaining schools. GT, Clemson, FSU, and Miami add nothing to the SEC. They can just choke those schools out of the game financially. For the B1G, those schools vary in value. Pitt, Cuse, BC, and UL offer nothing to the SEC. Maybe the B1G could work some network money with Cuse and BC.

ND is a prize that diminishes as soon as it joins the B1G.

Wake and Duke aren’t going B1G or SEC.
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It's a majority including notre Dame, so you only need 7 full ACC schools to leave. Likely too many for both SEC and B1G, but if acc is locked into this ööööty TV deal for another decade or so, B12 may be an option for some teams too.
 
AmpuTECHture said:
It's a majority including notre Dame, so you only need 7 full ACC schools to leave. Likely too many for both SEC and B1G, but if acc is locked into this ööööty TV deal for another decade or so, B12 may be an option for some teams too.
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GT
Miami
Fsu
Nd
Unc
Nc st
Clemson
UVA

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4 teams say they’re leaving for the SEC at the end of the GoR or earlier. Lawsuit gets filed. This forces the BIG’s hand and they pick up 4 more over the next year. Then everyone votes to disband the ACC
 
BuzzLaw said:
GT
Miami
Fsu
Nd
Unc
Nc st
Clemson
UVA

-or-

4 teams say they’re leaving for the SEC at the end of the GoR or earlier. Lawsuit gets filed. This forces the BIG’s hand and they pick up 4 more over the next year. Then everyone votes to disband the ACC
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You don’t get UVa unless VT has a nice landing spot. Same with UNC/NCSt.

Teams with the most to lose are UL, Wake, Duke, and Pitt. Cuse and BC also have problems, but less than the first four. ND a likely ’no’, if they get their NBC money.
 
WracerX said:
You don’t get UVa unless VT has a nice landing spot. Same with UNC/NCSt.

Teams with the most to lose are UL, Wake, Duke, and Pitt. Cuse and BC also have problems, but less than the first four. ND a likely ’no’, if they get their NBC money.
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Yeah, I think you’re right about uva/vt. But uva may decide to just look after itself if it fears it’s about to be left out.
 
I really foresee the ACC getting demolished, over the next 2-3 years. I can see Clemson, UNC, Miami and FSU getting picked by the SEC. I can see Pitt, BC, GT and NC State getting picked, by the Big-10. The ACC will replace with teams such as Georgia State, Middle Tenn and such. I really don't see the ACC surviving.
 
Jmonty71 said:
I really foresee the ACC getting demolished, over the next 2-3 years. I can see Clemson, UNC, Miami and FSU getting picked by the SEC. I can see Pitt, BC, GT and NC State getting picked, by the Big-10. The ACC will replace with teams such as Georgia State, Middle Tenn and such. I really don't see the ACC surviving.
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I know a lot of us want GT to jump on the Big 10 train, and I understand why, but this would suck. There’s already a bunch of teams in the Big 10 that I don’t care about watching us play regularly (Rutgers, Northwestern, etc.). This would add 2-3 more.
 
BuzzLaw said:
I know a lot of us want GT to jump on the Big 10 train, and I understand why, but this would suck. There’s already a bunch of teams in the Big 10 that I don’t care about watching us play regularly (Rutgers, Northwestern, etc.). This would add 2-3 more.
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This depends on how many teams you care about playing now. I only care about playing Clemson and FSU, one of which we don't even play regularly, so a move to the B1G isn't taking that much away in my eyes. I'd rather play B1G teams than former Big East teams and snoozers like Wake and Duke.
 
gtchief said:
This depends on how many teams you care about playing now. I only care about playing Clemson and FSU, one of which we don't even play regularly, so a move to the B1G isn't taking that much away in my eyes. I'd rather play B1G teams than former Big East teams and snoozers like Wake and Duke.
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Good point
 
Shifting gears a bit, I had heard him comment elsewhere that the ACC had briefly considered the idea of looking at USC a year ago and none of the university presidents were keen on the idea of playing teams so far out of our region. I wonder if that policy gets re-evaluated now.
 
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gtchief said:
This depends on how many teams you care about playing now. I only care about playing Clemson and FSU, one of which we don't even play regularly, so a move to the B1G isn't taking that much away in my eyes. I'd rather play B1G teams than former Big East teams and snoozers like Wake and Duke.
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Are you a fan of GT or of Clemson and FSU?

I’ve always enjoyed the more-or-less even playing field we have with the rest of the ACC, and the storylines and rivalries that have waxed and waned over the years.

It seems like a lot of people have bought into the hype that the only football that “matters” is what ESPN says matters - the almighty SEC and a select few midwestern teams. It’s not that the ACC is objectively terrible (although it isn’t well suited to compete in the current arms race), it’s that you’ve been conditioned by the media that the league (and by implication, your own team) are worthless and irrelevant.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
Are you a fan of GT or of Clemson and FSU?

I’ve always enjoyed the more-or-less even playing field we have with the rest of the ACC, and the storylines and rivalries that have waxed and waned over the years.

It seems like a lot of people have bought into the hype that the only football that “matters” is what ESPN says matters - the almighty SEC and a select few midwestern teams. It’s not that the ACC is objectively terrible (although it isn’t well suited to compete in the current arms race), it’s that you’ve been conditioned by the media that the league (and by implication, your own team) are worthless and irrelevant.

JRjr
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You have the same mentality as our new ACC commish. Living in the past, all sunshine and roses except for that pesky "revenue" part that gets dodged until the Q&A session. You sound like you'd be perfectly fine playing our "rivalries" (Duke, VPI? lol) beyond who I already specified (which, apparently makes me a fan of said teams) and GT falling further behind in the arms race because all that other stuff matters, too!

YOUR allegiance to whatever rivalries you claim we have ensures that we will never be able to compete with UG again because you want to stay in a dying conference. So I will answer your question with my own: are you a fan of GT or of the ACC? Because the two sentiments are in direct contention if going elsewhere is an option.
 
I’m a fan of GT. I think the the level of competition we face in the ACC is appropriately matched with our ceiling as a program in the modern era of college football.

I’m not at all interested in watching us play Big 10 teams because historically and geographically there’s no relationship there. I’m also not interested in watching us get our asses kicked in perpetuity because we think we can actually compete in the upper echelons of the semi-pro league that college football is becoming.

JRjr
 
vapspwi said:
I’m a fan of GT. I think the the level of competition we face in the ACC is appropriately matched with our ceiling as a program in the modern era of college football.

I’m not at all interested in watching us play Big 10 teams because historically and geographically there’s no relationship there. I’m also not interested in watching us get our asses kicked in perpetuity because we think we can actually compete in the upper echelons of the semi-pro league that college football is becoming.

JRjr
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The choice will ultimately be between the Big10 and a decimated ACC that likely resembles a mix of the Sunbelt and American conferences. I would much prefer Big10 opponents to Georgia State, Tulane, and the like.
 
BuzzLaw said:
I know a lot of us want GT to jump on the Big 10 train, and I understand why, but this would suck. There’s already a bunch of teams in the Big 10 that I don’t care about watching us play regularly (Rutgers, Northwestern, etc.). This would add 2-3 more.
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I don't care if we stay in the ACC, SEC or BIG-10.. The ACC doesn't think large enough, to compete the new conferences.
 
vapspwi said:
I’m a fan of GT. I think the the level of competition we face in the ACC is appropriately matched with our ceiling as a program in the modern era of college football.

I’m not at all interested in watching us play Big 10 teams because historically and geographically there’s no relationship there. I’m also not interested in watching us get our asses kicked in perpetuity because we think we can actually compete in the upper echelons of the semi-pro league that college football is becoming.

JRjr
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If the level of competition in the ACC which is arguably 5th out of the P5 is appropriately matched to what you think is the ceiling for GT, then GT might as well join the Sun Belt. GT is barely above Dook from the bottom of the ACC as of today.

The program should have enough talent around the SE states to field a competitive product. But the school itself which invests nothing into sports continues to be the football and hoops worst enemy. The school has a real decision to make in the next few years. Are they ”all in” with supporting a competitive product, or are they satisfied with a G5 product? Looking at it today, it’s a pretty simple answer.
 
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