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I still think GT should be at the top of the list to get into the SEC. Just by virtue of where we're at geographically, historically, etc. Are we hated and looked down on that much? Clemson and F$U I get. Same argument can be made for them. I would think Miami would be a better fit for the BIG than us because of all the yankees down there.
 
Ohio State and Michigan do not have more fans or alums in Georgia than Tech does. Good Grief already.

The thing that interests me, is how strongly FSU said they did not want to play Tech regularly in football. I can't help but think that Tech has reached back to the Big Ten and FSU knows it and refuses to help support Tech in any way. FSU is going to be in a tough spot coming up and they know it. (So is Tech if they don't get their act together and move back up to the Top Five in football in the ACC.)

It's unclear about Clemson. Well known, nice coaches sell. The Big Ten could use a few more top football programs. Clemson is not going to the SEC, how about the Big Ten?

If you look at the 7 teams who openly brought moving up, more than anything I would guess they wanted to start their own 8 team football league. FSU, Clemson, NCS, VPI, do not clearly have an open option coming up. UNC and UVA does but they want to remain kingpins. The easiest way to make more money for the bigger football schools is to drop BC, Syracuse, Wake, Duke, GT of late.

But it was also a play to negotiate more money from the conference and it looks like it is worked.
Clemson and FSU vs. almost anyone in the SEC will draw huge ratings nationwide, who fking cares if they share a state with another SEC school?
 
I still think GT should be at the top of the list to get into the SEC. Just by virtue of where we're at geographically, historically, etc. Are we hated and looked down on that much? Clemson and F$U I get. Same argument can be made for them. I would think Miami would be a better fit for the BIG than us because of all the yankees down there.
Would all the schools of the SEC get to vote on new members? Possibly enough new schools have been added that don’t actually hate us to override uga etc if it ever came down to that.
 
FSU didn't "pick" Syracuse. The ACC, in their ultimate wisdom, decided that FSU shouldn't play the team closest to their campus on a yearly basis. The ACC felt it was unimportant for the city with the largest FSU alum base to get to see their team play in Atlanta every other year.

This decision also cost GT AND FSU home game revenue.
FSU at GT at Atlanta = sellout
GT at FSU in Tallahassee = sellout
Syracuse at FSU in Tallahassee = no sellout

It is like the old bastards running the ACC WANT GT and FSU to suffer financially. FSU vs GT is a no brainier for every season.
God i hate the ACC.....yay! We get to play WF and Louisville every year!
 
I still think GT should be at the top of the list to get into the SEC. Just by virtue of where we're at geographically, historically, etc. Are we hated and looked down on that much? Clemson and F$U I get. Same argument can be made for them. I would think Miami would be a better fit for the BIG than us because of all the yankees down there.

Those two are probably way down the list of prioritization for the people making these decisions.
 
I'm not talking about a discussion on who should get kicked out of the SEC if they need to make room... I'm talking about whether the SEC would want Clemson or not. Somebody said Clemson is not going to SEC. The only team in SEC that doesn't want Clemson to join is USCe. If they were forced to make a decision between keeping USCe and taking Clemson, they would trade USCe for Clemson before you can say don't do it.

I really don’t think anyone in the SEC wants Clemson….they do not view them kindly and hate Dabo. Likewise with FSU. The SEC will want a school from North Carolina or Virginia…old south states where they do not have representation.
 
The level of insight is humorous at times, it sounds like the SEC is just this guy you know and not an organization with many often conflicting interests in a very dynamic and ever-changing environment, yet on this issue they speak in complete unanimity.

"Hey SEC how ya been, what do you think about all this conference expansion stuff"

"Well Bubba lemme tell ya <spits in spittoon, followed by a ding sound> I sure as hades am never going to stand for letting that Clemson fella in, I don't like FSU either but if he brings me a fresh possum pie I might consider it, but in the end it all depends on what pleases mama. Damnit Lerlene I told ya to stop getting naked on the back porch before I'm ready for the wash down."
 
The bigger question is: why does Tech always have to depend on visting schools to increase attendance? Tech can't get much more than 30,000 of their own fans at home games.
Beats the hell out of me. It wasn't like that when I was in school, nor for a long time after that. Attendance took a BIG drop the first year we had to pay ticket fees for season tickets. I would venture to say the upper east had a 50% drop that year. Every other school in the country has, and had then, those fees, but apparently Tech fans were too cheap to pay them. I didn't like it, but I paid mine and have paid them every year since.
 
The bigger question is: why does Tech always have to depend on visting schools to increase attendance? Tech can't get much more than 30,000 of their own fans at home games.

GT doesn't even sell football to it's own students, much less the city of Atlanta. For example, part of the student & parent orientation for Auburn is an evening in Jordan-Hare with handout pom-poms, skits with the mascot, and "The Nun" teaching all parents and new students the school cheers and fight songs. As a result, students have to compete and pay for football tickets at Auburn, and get penalized if they don't show for a home game. Meanwhile up the road in Atlanta, I am fairly confident we are graduating students who have never set foot inside Grant Field, much less actually attended a game there.

I work with GT grads who have zero interest in any kind of "spectator sport", and displays disdain for anyone who would attend such of thing. Let's face it, GT attracts a significant percentage of a type of student that isn't going to support a football program once they graduate regardless of how much winning it does or what conference matchups are involved; but they have remarkable ACT scores and are really good at math & physics; and I am only talking about the ones who are US citizens.
 
GT doesn't even sell football to it's own students, much less the city of Atlanta. For example, part of the student & parent orientation for Auburn is an evening in Jordan-Hare with handout pom-poms, skits with the mascot, and "The Nun" teaching all parents and new students the school cheers and fight songs. As a result, students have to compete and pay for football tickets at Auburn, and get penalized if they don't show for a home game. Meanwhile up the road in Atlanta, I am fairly confident we are graduating students who have never set foot inside Grant Field, much less actually attended a game there.

I work with GT grads who have zero interest in any kind of "spectator sport", and displays disdain for anyone who would attend such of thing. Let's face it, GT attracts a significant percentage of a type of student that isn't going to support a football program once they graduate regardless of how much winning it does or what conference matchups are involved; but they have remarkable ACT scores and are really good at math & physics; and I am only talking about the ones who are US citizens.
I don’t think that’s true. Winning cures all isn’t really a myth.
 
I don’t think that’s true. Winning cures all isn’t really a myth.

We had trouble filling up Bobby Dodd in 1991; by the time we got to the Wake Forest game only 38K 'officially' showed up. I heard it contributed to Ross' decision to leave.
 
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