GoldZ
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BOR, you smuck, you shuda gone with Rutledge at the other corner! :>)
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BOR, you smuck, you shuda gone with Rutledge at the other corner! :>)
Man I have heard of folks like you but didnt think they exist,you evidently when you brush your teeth figure out a expert is in the mirror.A legend in your OWN mind but how did you know about my wee wee,oh you have been doubling as a security guard in the Malls restroom.Only retard I am seeing is the one who refuses to give Lothridge and other tech greats their due.Besides we have elected many politicians that are boaderline retarded.What is the big deal.Later dude,get my coffee and will continue.
I cant remember the last time we had a real good corner that was not playing fifteen yards off the reciever.We have made many a average passer look great on Saturday.I keep seeing the press clipping of guys who run sub 4.5 dashes and tackle hard but never see them on Saturday.Guess best def secondary we have had lately was the 90 champs.Now they would come up and deliver a blow.Man need some now.
My young friend has winners mixed up with athletes.Yes Lothridge was a decent athlete but what a winner.In sixty two he was fifteen for eighteen in FGs.Nobody has said that the athlete today is not gifted but hey,the guys in the sixties under Dodd could play period.They were winners.
GoldZ
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Reginald was a head hunter and played quite a bit in the league.
BarrelORum
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When I die, my gravestone will say, "Stingtalk Legend". And I have no problem giving Lothridge his due. If there was an alltime award for Mr. Gridiron, I would give it to him. But as a QB, and QB only, the best we've ever had is a guy we all refer to as Lil Joe and really, its not even close grandpa.
Re: Tech's Best QB .....
Dang bleed gold. I remember your dad only saw him play one year (49) but he was good, actually dang good and he set the stage for Tech's run in the 50's.
Dang bleed gold. I remember your dad only saw him play one year (49) but he was good, actually dang good and he set the stage for Tech's run in the 50's.
Spoken from the mouth of babes I am sure,well when you grow up you will find out how wrong you are but hey,aint it fun to cross swords about this.One thing for sure we have been blessed with many good athletes and if they excelled in the sixties they damn sure could play today.
BET PJ WOULD RATHER HAVE BILLY COOL RUNNING HIS OPTION SINCE HIS SIZE AND ABILITY TO THROW ON THE RUN WOULD BE GREAT.NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM jOE BUT HOW MANY HITS COULD HE TAKE IN THE pj OFFENSE.GOT TO GO NOW AND REST SINCE MY FIVE GRANDCHILDREN NEED A DRIVER TO THE BABY SITTERS.HAVE A GOOD ONE.
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Again mack, swing and a miss. Lil Joe had 501 career rushing attempts often running Fridge's version of the triple option whereas Nesbitt had 403. So I imagine he's capable of taking the hits in PJ's offense. And I don't even want to hear about passing the ball. Lil Joe put everything on the money. Remember FSU 1999.
Hamilton's career completion percentage: 62% and 65 TD's.
Lothridge career completion percentage: 49% and 18 TDs.
But I'm sure your magical eyes have an answer for that pesky stat.
I'm fairly certain PJ would take Hamilton hands down. In fact, Dodd would too.
-Joe didnt ru;n the triple option,sorry to tell you that,he ran the pure option.Look at the hits JN took and you think a small guy like Joe take the hits every play.Now you are saying JN is less of a option qb than Joe.Man what is in your cornflakes.Have you figured out that Joe played more games than Billy since there were 12 games a year and couldnt play as a freshman that equals to at lest eight games a career.What ralphie ran vs PJ is different and you should know it by now,JN gets or got hit every play.Billyl was 195 lbs and 6 feet 1 inch Joe was not anywhere that big.Who do you think could take a better hit ,Joe or Billy everygame.Passing is according to the era.In the sixties the only folks who were reall throwing the ball was FSU under Bill Petterson since he had Steve Tensi and Bill Cappleman and several great ends.In the Lothridge era the pass was dictated by the defense and thus 15 times a game was a big afternoon so dont go so quickly on Lothridges ability to throw the football.He had a big target in Billy Martin.Of course you dont see this in your stats and film but if you had been around then you would agree with me.Good luck
Dude,with the magical eyes I have I never miss anything just blot out minor posts etc.How many FGs that won games did Little Joe kick? How many times did he kick Tech out of harms way,how many times did Billy BEAT GA.You are comparing eras as a total factor in your decision.Funny to me,Billly could play for years in NFL ,be second to Roger Staubach in the Heisman,be both All SEC adn All American yet cant play with Joe.Man rush your cornflakes to the GBI and get it tested.Both are good ones I like one andyou the other and neither are experts but I yield to you since your have said you are a Sting talk legend.Only problem is the "legend ' is wrong but will not admit it.Keep those cards and letters coming.
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Correct, you are too young to remember but the old saying in the SEC regarding the emergence of the black athlete was by Bear Bryant wow did you see how that Indian could run. Compared to today those old Dodd teams moved in slow motion.
Let me clear this in my head before lunch.You were born in what 72 so you are basing your opinions on stats,you never saw Billy play yet you have the opinion that he couldnt play with Littel Joe,sorry that will not wash unless you are in La La Land.Had to see both to form a opinion.Just wanted to clear my mind. Now you are talking for Dodd,man you are on a roll.May need your insight when I play the lottery tonight.give me your cell so I can split the money with you with your vast knowledge of the future and the past.See you after dinner.
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Not quite comparable eras. Rule changes are more favorable in Hamilton's era to offenses. You would need to normalize the stats to the era, such as how did Lothridge compare to the average stats for QBs in his tenure compared to same for Hamilton. Remember that Dodd loved to play close to the vest on offense and let his defense create turnovers/block punts to win. He put his best athletes on defense.
The remarkable thing about Billy L is how many times he MADE BIG PLAYS that were crucial to outcomes of games. His football IQ was very high and he had balls of steel.
Back when Billy L was playing as Mack said they only played 10 games a year. Freshman did not play at all. lets see Lil Joe had 4X12+4=52 games in a career, Billy on the other hand had 3X10+3= 33 games in his career. So lets get this straight Lil Joe had almost 20 game more to get the stats he had. Not taking away from Lil Joe but he had a distinct advantage over Lothridge as far as stats go. I saw em both and since many of you guys did not see Lothridge play I'll take Lothridge any day of the Week. BOR just because you mouth opens and shuts does not mean it's a prayer book. If you said MY OPINION Lil Joe was the best QB at Tech I might go along. No you said it was an absolute so I have no faith in what you say. Now is it opinion or fact. You really can't have it both ways.
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Foggy, you're really showing your ignorance about football. The triple option is NOT repeat NOT a formation. We run the triple option out of the flexbone formation. Friedgen ran it from a pro and run and shoot formations.
Lil Joe had the option of keeping it, pitching it, or dropping back to pass. Hence, he had three options based on who was lined up where.
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Geeze guys, the issue is right in front of our faces.
The guys today have every advantage of early nutrition, training, camps, S&C, far more focus on HS athletics, etc. etc, etc. My daughter's HS even has a full time trainer on staff for athletes. How many had those even in the 90's?
You have to judge based on talent level and the changes in the game. The game today favors offense FAR more than it did in 1962. The reason is simple... TV. People don't tune in to watch a defensive struggle, they love offense. The game has been changed. We have to normalize for that.
To those who question if a "marginal" athlete could survive in today's environment of "super athletes," I gave you David Greene - UGAg's winningest QB, and far less athletic than Lothridge.
To those who question what Lothridge (6'2" 195) would have done in the same Fridge offense that Hamilton played in, I give you George Godsey (6'2" 205). Lothridge was much more agile and mobile than Godsey, with easily as strong an arm, yet Godsey is 3rd in all-time passing yardage at GA Tech with (6,137 yards). You put Billy Lothridge in charge of those 2000-01 teams and watch what his stats would have been.
To those who wonder what Hamilton would have done on a team in 1960, I give you Fran Tarkenton. Very similar type player. Joe would have excelled on his talent in that era, too.
Talent translated to different eras, but stats don't. We need to grasp this simple fact of athletics.
The guys today have every advantage of early nutrition, training, camps, S&C, far more focus on HS athletics, etc. etc, etc. My daughter's HS even has a full time trainer on staff for athletes. How many had those even in the 90's?
You have to judge based on talent level and the changes in the game. The game today favors offense FAR more than it did in 1962. The reason is simple... TV. People don't tune in to watch a defensive struggle, they love offense. The game has been changed. We have to normalize for that.
To those who question if a "marginal" athlete could survive in today's environment of "super athletes," I gave you David Greene - UGAg's winningest QB, and far less athletic than Lothridge.
To those who question what Lothridge (6'2" 195) would have done in the same Fridge offense that Hamilton played in, I give you George Godsey (6'2" 205). Lothridge was much more agile and mobile than Godsey, with easily as strong an arm, yet Godsey is 3rd in all-time passing yardage at GA Tech with (6,137 yards). You put Billy Lothridge in charge of those 2000-01 teams and watch what his stats would have been.
To those who wonder what Hamilton would have done on a team in 1960, I give you Fran Tarkenton. Very similar type player. Joe would have excelled on his talent in that era, too.
Talent translated to different eras, but stats don't. We need to grasp this simple fact of athletics.
Whoa dude the option Joe ran is different than the won Billy ran.Just to make you up to date on formations,go to Goggle and put ga tech belly series and you will see the difference.If you want to use Joe as the key guy in the nineties I would say okay allthough if If i was building a team I would pick Shawn Jones.Lothridge could play in any era,he is at least the equall of The Green kid from GA who did pretty good for himself.Billy Rules Dude.