Alright, I’m done with Above the line crap

GoldZ said:
A continuation of the past 3 games....... WILL damn well impact recruiting.
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No it won't. The recruits have buy-in to what Collins is building. They see the potential for immediate impact even moreso with the poor showing of the current players.
 
JacketForLife said:
At Temple, they have a QB is actually really good. Russo is a beast.
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In 2017, they switched QBs in the middle of the season; not sure if it was because of injury but only in the South Florida game did they both play a substantial amount. No platoon like current.

Like I said, Collins is making a communication error and he should see the issue with QBs platooning that needs a better answer than he has delivered. The only excuse if it is a locker room issue but he should still be able to deliver an answer that helps fans, media, team understand.

Patenaude has delivered an explanation that is at least adequate: I would like to play one QB but currently we don’t have a single QB that does everything at a high level.
 
Gobees said:
You're not "developing" anything if these players will not even be playing next year.
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WRs will, RBs will, TEs will, young OL will. Better to have them learning what we plan to do next year than some limited run first offense.

Now to me though, this also means you play Graham and see what he can do and honestly I would rather live with Oliver passing than Johnson.
 
Walton said:
Patenaude has delivered an explanation that is at least adequate: I would like to play one QB but currently we don’t have a single QB that does everything at a high level.
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And every defense we face will essentially know what’s coming based on who is taking the snap.
 
I’ve not been a fan of the ATL. Before, when they would introduce the starting lineup, the players would be on the Jumbotron and we could cheer for them individually. Now, it’s just a list of players who are better than the sideline dance squad. I understand the concept, but it’s not exciting from a fan’s perspective.
 
Neither Johnson nor Oliver are good passers and our pass pro sucks. Gotta go run heavy this year with Oliver if Graham is unhealthy. Only hope
 
Gobees said:
You're not "developing" anything if these players will not even be playing next year.
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Ever hear of the concept of "depth"? Even if your supposition is correct that none of these guys will be starters next year (which it's not), you're going to need other people with experience to step in and play.
 
Walton said:
Yes, I paraphrased but if you watch his videos on YouTube that is what he says. He might have said, they have different strengths but it is the gist.
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This is a plausible explanation. We may not like it, but we all know it is true.

That said, still dont know why we are in shotgun for short yardage.
 
rfjeff9 said:
This is a plausible explanation. We may not like it, but we all know it is true.

That said, still dont know why we are in shotgun for short yardage.
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Many, many college teams run shotgun in short yardage; it is the norm and something I guess Tech fans don’t notice. What is strange is Temple did use under center I formation some times.
 
Walton said:
Many, many college teams run shotgun in short yardage; it is the norm and something I guess Tech fans don’t notice. What is strange is Temple did use under center I formation some times.
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And several of us have pointed out how stupid those teams are when they take a loss near the goal line because of that formation.

Being under center isn't a formation CPJ developed. Pro teams use it. It is fantastic for short yardage, dives, sneaks, and play action passes. In fact, one of the best play action plays was the David Greene play action where he'd fake the handoff to the RB and take a few steps back effectively hiding the ball from the defense for a count or two. Then, set, throw. Beautiful play.

Our shotgun option fools nobody. It develops slow and allows the defense to penetrate since we generally are telegraphing the play.
 
I know why the ATL thing is not working. It’s not gonna work because in its essence, it’s UnAmerican. You can’t say competition is king and then reward your winners with a game of thrones crown but not the starting position. It also kills whatever momentum a quarterback builds or doesn’t give him the time to go back and correct his shortcomings in the next play or drive. Because who cares? I may get us 40 yards in one play but I’m sitting my ass down for the guy who’s not as good as me next play. It also takes away from traditional role generals serve on the battlefield. I got livid when CPJ had pulled Tobias after scoring two TDs against USF and put a less than mediocre Taquon back in the game. This is worse than that.
 
Akinji07 said:
I know why the ATL thing is not working. It’s not gonna work because in its essence, it’s UnAmerican. You can’t say competition is king and then reward your winners with a game of thrones crown but not the starting position. It also kills whatever momentum a quarterback builds or doesn’t give him the time to go back and correct his shortcomings in the next play or drive. Because who cares? I may get us 40 yards in one play but I’m sitting my ass down for the guy who’s not as good as me next play. It also takes away from traditional role generals serve on the battlefield. I got livid when CPJ had pulled Tobias after scoring two TDs against USF and put a less than mediocre Taquon back in the game. This is worse than that.
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We're cucking the actual starters by giving their ball to someone else while they watch.
 
daBuzz said:
Ever hear of the concept of "depth"? Even if your supposition is correct that none of these guys will be starters next year (which it's not), you're going to need other people with experience to step in and play.
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I think the reason starters get more reps is so that your starters have had enough practice to go up against the best of your opposition, who also had starter reps. If you’re not getting starter reps then you’re probably on par or worse than Citadel’s starters throughout your guys above the line.

I like that the guy can recruit and generate excitement. I don’t think some of the stuff is necessary and actually detrimental. There’s a reason why there are established ways of doing things, and anything revolutionary, if it doesn’t work, well there’s a reason it doesn’t work and why it’s never been implemented.
 
Akinji07 said:
I think the reason starters get more reps is so that your starters have had enough practice to go up against the best of your opposition, who also had starter reps. If you’re not getting starter reps then you’re probably on par or worse than Citadel throughout your guys above the line.

I like that the guy can recruit and generate excitement. I don’t think some of the stuff is necessary and actually detrimental. There’s a reason why there are established ways of doing things, and anything revolutionary, if it doesn’t work, well there’s a reason it doesn’t work and why it’s never been implemented.
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Not sure I agree with that. I used to run my baseball practices exactly like this because Ron Polk's Baseball Playbook showed how he started doing this to maximize reps. At the time, nobody else was doing that either. And Ron Polk is now a College Hall of Fame manager whose teams made it to the World Series 8 times.

I don't know that some of the antics are necessary either but he's definitely trying to make it seem different to the recruits and if it works with them, then I don't give a rat's rear end because we need more/bigger/stronger/faster and need it quickly. FWIW, I think his attention to detail on every little aspect of perception, culture, planning, facilities, strength & conditioning, etc is phenomenal and reminds me an awful lot of 'the process' that Saban has at Bama and somewhat like Dabo has at Clemson.

It has been pointed out that we will never 'out Jimmy & Joe' Georgia and Clemson and that might be correct but we should be able to recruit much more closely to them than we have been. If he can get the proper OC and DC's beneath him, that might just work out really well for us. If he doesn't, oh well...at least the next guy will inherit some really good talent which is more than I can say of the current situation.
 
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