As A GT Fan For Close To 60 Years, I Am Still Miffed …

I appreciate what you said and I feel the same way.

I'm 71, and it really means something different to me at my age to hear people say we need to give two more years to any coaching staff that hasn't come close to a winning season in its first three seasons and then clean house and start over. I'm hopeful we'll win today and then surprise ND and have our best game against Georgia. But if we end the year with two one sided losses, I sure don't want to hear about how this staff deserves more time to learn how to coach. At first the argument was that we had a great staff handicapped by a shortage of talent. Now, we have pretty good talent handicapped by a shortage of coaching.
I think the talent is better at some skill positions but I think we are woefully lacking on both sides of the LOS, WR, and the QB position is yet to be determined. Entering the 10th game of his sophomore season Sims should be performing at a higher level, heck, he is basically a junior now. I don’t know if it is Sims or the QB Coach. I wonder what Fridge would say?
 
Maybe you’re too young to understand?
Well I became a Tech fan in early to mid 80s due to Cremins. He had a great run. At least I witnessed the golden years of GT basketball. I missed the golden years of football. My fandom has always seen Tech as the underdog. 1990 was awesome but it seems like a fluke, an out of the blue thing that happened. But we have had our good years, Hamilton, Godsey, some CPJ years. It has seemed like a seesaw ride. Right now we are at the point were some kid jumped off the other end of the seesaw and our asses got slammed to the ground.

I attended Tech during the worst possible time - the B*** L**** years.
 
I think the talent is better at some skill positions but I think we are woefully lacking on both sides of the LOS, WR, and the QB position is yet to be determined. Entering the 10th game of his sophomore season Sims should be performing at a higher level, heck, he is basically a junior now. I don’t know if it is Sims or the QB Coach. I wonder what Fridge would say?

You know the Covid year was Sims first year in college, right?
 
Well I became a Tech fan in early to mid 80s due to Cremins. He had a great run. At least I witnessed the golden years of GT basketball. I missed the golden years of football. My fandom has always seen Tech as the underdog. 1990 was awesome but it seems like a fluke, an out of the blue thing that happened. But we have had our good years, Hamilton, Godsey, some CPJ years. It has seemed like a seesaw ride. Right now we are at the point were some kid jumped off the other end of the seesaw and our asses got slammed to the ground.

I attended Tech during the worst possible time - the B*** L**** years.

I was here for the Bill Lewis years, but three things were different.

We drew big crowds.

There was more anger, not apathy, among our fans.

Homer Rice made sure it didn't last long. He brought in O'Leary as DC, when he saw Lewis was not working out, and changed coaches at mid-season the next season, setting up a good, quick recovery and giving Tech fans hope.
 
Well I became a Tech fan in early to mid 80s due to Cremins. He had a great run. At least I witnessed the golden years of GT basketball. I missed the golden years of football. My fandom has always seen Tech as the underdog. 1990 was awesome but it seems like a fluke, an out of the blue thing that happened. But we have had our good years, Hamilton, Godsey, some CPJ years. It has seemed like a seesaw ride. Right now we are at the point were some kid jumped off the other end of the seesaw and our asses got slammed to the ground.

I attended Tech during the worst possible time - the B*** L**** years.
I knew you were young.
 
Well I became a Tech fan in early to mid 80s due to Cremins. He had a great run. At least I witnessed the golden years of GT basketball. I missed the golden years of football. My fandom has always seen Tech as the underdog. 1990 was awesome but it seems like a fluke, an out of the blue thing that happened. But we have had our good years, Hamilton, Godsey, some CPJ years. It has seemed like a seesaw ride. Right now we are at the point were some kid jumped off the other end of the seesaw and our asses got slammed to the ground.

I attended Tech during the worst possible time - the B*** L**** years.
Cremins also brought me to Tech fandom as a sidewalk fan in the mid-80s
 
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That the GT supporters of the 1960’s did not rise up and stop the administration’s sabotage of the football program. Coming out of the 50’s we had the best stadium in the South and a top notch football program. Then the administration did not do a darn thing to help Dodd keep up with the changing times and he finally said the heck with it in 66. Oh, we’ve had little flashes of success over the years but too many times we find ourselves struggling. When you get my age it really gets old going through these bad or mediocre years so frequently.
I feel for you boomer because I lived it too. Going to a game in October/November at BDS could not be rivaled. Now, I see our coach who is more concerned with what his outfit looks like and how the digital marketing team helps with recruiting. We have ATL crap on the field and on our helmets along with 5 or 6 other logos. We reduced our stadium to put some ugly ass offices in place but even that can't hide what was probably only 20,000 fans at kickoff and 5,000 or less at the bitter end. I could accept all that if we were decent but at this point I can't even classify us as mediocre. I am so tired of "we don't have any money" because there are scores of coaches across the country who would coach Tech for a head coaching job for a million and can't be any worse than these Keystone Cops. The first point of order is to get off this Tech man requirement and go after the best possible coach, period. I fear the off season will lead to players bailing out of this nonsense and hitting the portal, so unless things change drastically we will be staring at another 3 win season.
 
Dodd referred to it a lot, and several times went to the State Board of Regents to lobby for the chance to expand Tech’s curriculum, to no avail. With some exceptions along the way, the Tech Administration has never made things easier for athletics.
 
As much as I sympathize with this argument, and the consequences of that decision made in the 1960s, let's not kid ourselves: where we are right now is the result of decisions that are made right now. Nothing else. Litigating those decisions of a half-century ago is a discussion point that is completely irrelevant to any action plan that needs to be created now to figure things out, whether through action or inaction.

I have been a fan since 1997. This is my 25th year. Quarter-century. Honestly, it's been a pretty good run. For 20 of those years, Georgia Tech has solidly been in the top 25% of all FBS college programs, and we have been mostly competitive with our biggest rival, even through frustration with the actual number of wins and losses. What is happening now is the result of poor decisions and a failure of leadership over the last 6-7 years.

I offer no solutions or deep dive analysis on what those root causes and poor decisions have been, only to say that it seems like often part of the collective Georgia Tech psyche of being mired in defeatism comes from this wistful nostalgia about decisions made decades before most people on this board were born. In the midst of what is arguably the worst era of GT football in 100 years, in W-L, I think this wistful nostalgia is something that really holds us back, ESPECIALLY right now.

So many comments and dumbass takes from lots of people who claim to be Georgia Tech fans, on the interwebs and elsewhere, to the effect of "this is how it's always been at Georgia Tech", "the stadium has always been empty", "GT football is what it is." Tired of the gaslighting.
 
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I’m not sure, but I’m curious to what evidence you have that Tech was limited by those factors in that era. I agree about now don’t get me wrong but I have not heard of the bias present against Tech at the time.
I don't know how old you are, but those very things were talked about quite often in Dodd's days. There is no doubt that they were true.
 
I don't know how old you are, but those very things were talked about quite often in Dodd's days. There is no doubt that they were true.
In fact, it was the very reason Dodd pulled us out of the SEC. Dodd recruited with the promise to every scholarship player a full 4 years regardless of what happens. When the SEC imposed scholarship limits, it put GT at a disadvantage because the Alabamas of the league chewed up and spit out players that didn’t produce.
 
That the GT supporters of the 1960’s did not rise up and stop the administration’s sabotage of the football program. Coming out of the 50’s we had the best stadium in the South and a top notch football program. Then the administration did not do a darn thing to help Dodd keep up with the changing times and he finally said the heck with it in 66. Oh, we’ve had little flashes of success over the years but too many times we find ourselves struggling. When you get my age it really gets old going through these bad or mediocre years so frequently.
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