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(Aside from the fact that insiders already knew the truth)

It is now public knowledge that the GT Head coaching job was one that drew a lot of interest. There were a slew of high profile coaches that wanted this job and a lot that made contact with us. Many pushing hard to get it.

Names like Neuheisel, Terry Bowden, and many more. In fact, Bud Foster (Probably one of the top 3 DC's in the country and a most wanted man (See Steve Spurrier trying hard to get him) Bud pushed very hard to get the job saying he wanted to go to a major School like GT that had a chance to win championships)

There is a good piece on Bud Foster interest in GT on Stingers GT Sports blog. He has turned down interest from other schools for their head job i.e Duke, because Foster want's that right job in order to compete for championships. He in fact, very much wanted our job.

So, when all the ugagers that come over here and on the hive or in the newspaper like ole Schultz and the rest of the ole ugag grad's at the Ajc and local TV, DON'T buy into it a second, that the GT job was not attractive and that we can't get that top notch coach...it is all propaganda as usual from these folk's.
It was all a matter of money in the end. Big donor(s) stepped up and we CAN in fact compete with other top BCS schools to win.

I for one think we have finally made the full committment on our end.
 
Thanks for reassuring us. I think I speak for ALL GT fans when I say we were all very worried about the coaching search. Personally and I think Most everyone would agree, I just couldn't Fathom GT being able to hire a top notch coach like PJ. I thought we'd be scouring the D-2 ranks or maybe be lucky enough to get a position coach from the pros.

I cannot tell you how excited I was when I found out that coaches ACTUALLY WANTED to come to GT. I mean, who could imagine. We're a downtown campus in the heart and epicenter of the Southeast, where college football is king, on a beautiful campus in a major sports market, with a tradition rivaled by very few. A history that boasts of Heisman, Alexander, Dodd, and Ross.

Thanks for putting my fears at rest as I wasn't sure if GT would be able to lure a top notch coach. :rolleyes:
 
1gtfan said:
(Aside from the fact that insiders already knew the truth)

It is now public knowledge that the GT Head coaching job was one that drew a lot of interest. There were a slew of high profile coaches that wanted this job and a lot that made contact with us. Many pushing hard to get it.

Names like Neuheisel, Terry Bowden, and many more. In fact, Bud Foster (Probably one of the top 3 DC's in the country and a most wanted man (See Steve Spurrier trying hard to get him) Bud pushed very hard to get the job saying he wanted to go to a major School like GT that had a chance to win championships)

There is a good piece on Bud Foster interest in GT on Stingers GT Sports blog. He has turned down interest from other schools for their head job i.e Duke, because Foster want's that right job in order to compete for championships. He in fact, very much wanted our job.

So, when all the ugagers that come over here and on the hive or in the newspaper like ole Schultz and the rest of the ole ugag grad's at the Ajc and local TV, DON'T buy into it a second, that the GT job was not attractive and that we can't get that top notch coach...it is all propaganda as usual from these folk's.
It was all a matter of money in the end. Big donor(s) stepped up and we CAN in fact compete with other top BCS schools to win.

I for one think we have finally made the full committment on our end.
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I'm not talking about you, BUT, the ugagers all over the place (You talk to them in public everyday and hear them on TV (The Bill Hartman's ect.) and in the local ugager rag (Jeff Schultz implying we had to settle for 2nd best)

It was all NON-FACT and the usual propaganda they want potential recruits to believe!

I.E. when they told everyone that Randy Edsal withdrew his name from consideration (Really implying that he didn't want the job) when in FACT he was NOT offered the job.

My main point is, that contrary to what is printed or said in the local media, GT is a primetime Coaching job.
 
Hopefully dRad will teach some of these skills to PJ for recruiting!
 
1gtfan said:
DON'T buy into it a second, that the GT job was not attractive and that we can't get that top notch coach...it is all propaganda as usual from these folk's.

It was all a matter of money in the end. Big donor(s) stepped up and we CAN in fact compete with other top BCS schools to win.
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I agree that we can, and did, attract top notch coaching candidates. We also have big donors who stepped up.

The disconnect is this: The big money guys dictated who we would hire.

So while we had the opportunity to hire a top notch coach, I still don't see any evidence that supports the proposition that we actually hired one. We took a risk that may or may not work out by hiring a guy with zero major conference experience as a player or a coach, and who runs a unique offense. His 2007 team beat only one team with a winning record (Air Force), and lost to a Div 1-AA school.

He does not fit my definition of a top notch coach. He may become one, but this was, and is, a very risky hire.
 
PJ definitely is a top notch coach

and I don't think he needs anybody to teach him recruiting skills. All you doubters have to do is sit back and watch.
 
I'll catch hell for this comment, but wtf.

Chan Gailey deserves some credit for the interest in our program. Fact is he sustained the program during a difficult period and is leaving it no worse than he found it. He showed that GT is a winning program and could be taken higher by the right person.

The Tech job was desirable because it was not a rebuilding effort under difficult circumstances. Tech has a lot of positives to offer prospects that most schools cannot match. Chan did a great job of accentuating Tech's strong points. These reasons helped make Tech an attractive job.
 
jacketup said:
I agree that we can, and did, attract top notch coaching candidates. We also have big donors who stepped up.

The disconnect is this: The big money guys dictated who we would hire.

So while we had the opportunity to hire a top notch coach, I still don't see any evidence that supports the proposition that we actually hired one. We took a risk that may or may not work out by hiring a guy with zero major conference experience as a player or a coach, and who runs a unique offense. His 2007 team beat only one team with a winning record (Air Force), and lost to a Div 1-AA school.

He does not fit my definition of a top notch coach. He may become one, but this was, and is, a very risky hire.
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Well, based on what we know about the search, rather than what was rumored, it would appear that almost nothing about your statement is true. The evidence would suggest this was our top choice and most people's read of his experience/resume would suggest he is a top notch coach.
 
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jacketup said:
I agree that we can, and did, attract top notch coaching candidates. We also have big donors who stepped up.

The disconnect is this: The big money guys dictated who we would hire.

So while we had the opportunity to hire a top notch coach, I still don't see any evidence that supports the proposition that we actually hired one. We took a risk that may or may not work out by hiring a guy with zero major conference experience as a player or a coach, and who runs a unique offense. His 2007 team beat only one team with a winning record (Air Force), and lost to a Div 1-AA school.

He does not fit my definition of a top notch coach. He may become one, but this was, and is, a very risky hire.
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You are in an extremely small minority...
 
kirbee said:
I'll catch hell for this comment, but wtf.

Chan Gailey deserves some credit for the interest in our program. Fact is he sustained the program during a difficult period and is leaving it no worse than he found it. He showed that GT is a winning program and could be taken higher by the right person.

The Tech job was desirable because it was not a rebuilding effort under difficult circumstances. Tech has a lot of positives to offer prospects that most schools cannot match. Chan did a great job of accentuating Tech's strong points. These reasons helped make Tech an attractive job.
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I'll agree 100% with this. I also think if he'd a stayed any longer it would have gotten worse instead of better, but I do think he provided stability in the program and slow growth in the fanbase. He left the new coach, whoever he may have been, with a good launching off point. But we definitely needed a new direction, there's no getting around that.

Yo kirbee - meet you at Bradley's for the Craftmatic Adjustable Bed Boise Bowl? A few hours of whiskey and coke will even the bet. :)
 
jacketup said:
He does not fit my definition of a top notch coach. He may become one, but this was, and is, a very risky hire.
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you apparently have your own dictionary, and also you have a BROKEN RECORD that you need to cut off

get over it, you are in the minority and you are wrong
 
kirbee said:
I'll catch hell for this comment, but wtf.

Chan Gailey deserves some credit for the interest in our program. Fact is he sustained the program during a difficult period and is leaving it no worse than he found it. He showed that GT is a winning program and could be taken higher by the right person.

The Tech job was desirable because it was not a rebuilding effort under difficult circumstances. Tech has a lot of positives to offer prospects that most schools cannot match. Chan did a great job of accentuating Tech's strong points. These reasons helped make Tech an attractive job.
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I think you're right, and I applaud you for making a statement in support of the scourge of humanity number 2. Chan wasn't a bad guy, he just caught some bad breaks, and he couldn't beat the primate academy in Athens. Most people wanted a change, and we got Paul Johnson, who has me, and most other people, excited.

As for being unhappy with the Johnson hire, you can't please everyone. There would be some people unhappy here if I invented a time machine, went back and got Dodd as the head coach, gave him Steve Spurrier as an OC, and made God himself the DC. Don't ask how Dodd can be both the HC and DC as two people at once, because it's Dodd, he can do anything.
 
BarrelORum said:
Thanks for reassuring us. I think I speak for ALL GT fans when I say we were all very worried about the coaching search. Personally and I think Most everyone would agree, I just couldn't Fathom GT being able to hire a top notch coach like PJ. I thought we'd be scouring the D-2 ranks or maybe be lucky enough to get a position coach from the pros.

I cannot tell you how excited I was when I found out that coaches ACTUALLY WANTED to come to GT. I mean, who could imagine. We're a downtown campus in the heart and epicenter of the Southeast, where college football is king, on a beautiful campus in a major sports market, with a tradition rivaled by very few. A history that boasts of Heisman, Alexander, Dodd, and Ross.

Thanks for putting my fears at rest as I wasn't sure if GT would be able to lure a top notch coach. :rolleyes:
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I was thinking we might have to be creative and look outside the actual coaching profession - maybe something along the lines of 8th grade gym teacher.
 
I agree partially with jacketup, PJ is not be a top notch coach YET, a petrino, rodriguez, miles, sabah, etc.

But I am still very excited about him since he has an excellent resume and he is a winner, he just haven't had the equipment to win big yet! Now he has, he understands that Tech is a big program, one that should be winning championships and he has the personal quality to accomplish that!

In regards to recruiting, I got no clue how PJ recruits, I was just making a comment on how dRad has done a good job at coach search. (IMHO)

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Ok, I have reread jacketup, he thinks we didn't get the top candidate, I disagree there. Given the money we have, and candidates mentioned, I think we did. Also, my top notch definition is different than most I guess, oh well.
 
PJ is exactly what we needed - tomorrows next big thing at yesterday's prices.
 
1gtfan said:
(Aside from the fact that insiders already knew the truth)

It is now public knowledge that the GT Head coaching job was one that drew a lot of interest. There were a slew of high profile coaches that wanted this job and a lot that made contact with us. Many pushing hard to get it.

Names like Neuheisel, Terry Bowden, and many more. In fact, Bud Foster (Probably one of the top 3 DC's in the country and a most wanted man (See Steve Spurrier trying hard to get him) Bud pushed very hard to get the job saying he wanted to go to a major School like GT that had a chance to win championships)

There is a good piece on Bud Foster interest in GT on Stingers GT Sports blog. He has turned down interest from other schools for their head job i.e Duke, because Foster want's that right job in order to compete for championships. He in fact, very much wanted our job.

So, when all the ugagers that come over here and on the hive or in the newspaper like ole Schultz and the rest of the ole ugag grad's at the Ajc and local TV, DON'T buy into it a second, that the GT job was not attractive and that we can't get that top notch coach...it is all propaganda as usual from these folk's.
It was all a matter of money in the end. Big donor(s) stepped up and we CAN in fact compete with other top BCS schools to win.

I for one think we have finally made the full committment on our end.
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I, as much as, if not more than anyone, believe that our job is very high profile but the list of known candidates (Neuheisel, Bowden, etc) and then adding Bud Foster's name does not make up a tremendous list of names with commensurate status to our job.
 
LongforDodd said:
I, as much as, if not more than anyone, believe that our job is very high profile but the list of known candidates (Neuheisel, Bowden, etc) and then adding Bud Foster's name does not make up a tremendous list of names with commensurate status to our job.
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So who would have to be on the list for it to meet your expectations? And please limit yourself to guys making less than $1.5M/year unless you were planning to put up the rest.
 
goldmember said:
I was thinking we might have to be creative and look outside the actual coaching profession - maybe something along the lines of 8th grade gym teacher.
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I think in the LEAST we could have promoted the women's volleyball coach to Head Football coach. Probably give her a 20% raise. We could definitely afford too.
 
jacketup said:
I agree that we can, and did, attract top notch coaching candidates. We also have big donors who stepped up.

The disconnect is this: The big money guys dictated who we would hire.

So while we had the opportunity to hire a top notch coach, I still don't see any evidence that supports the proposition that we actually hired one. We took a risk that may or may not work out by hiring a guy with zero major conference experience as a player or a coach, and who runs a unique offense. His 2007 team beat only one team with a winning record (Air Force), and lost to a Div 1-AA school.

He does not fit my definition of a top notch coach. He may become one, but this was, and is, a very risky hire.
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I completely agree with jacketup.
We see this year in and year out all over D-1 sports. The not-so-successful programs are always looking for mosses to come lead them and are willing to pay millions for a chance to have the new Messiah. The Petrinos of the world bank on it. There are so many variables in and out of the coaches control that make or break coaches (and players) BUt whatever PJ does, it takes much much more than a great coach and great players to sustain a winning program. Coaches and players come and go, but the great programs live on. You gotta ask yourself why? (if you're the big donars who shell out the money for these million dollar coaches)

I have no Idea if PJ is going to win big here at GT or not and neither does anyone else. Like jacketup said..it's a risk.
 
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