Athletic ACC mailbag: Who should Georgia Tech hire?

georgia_tech_swagger said:
Underwhelming. Will not generate excitement or pack the stands. He would improve the program from dumpster fire to mediocre and no further. If the goal is to have BOB be the stepping stone to mediocre and then hire somebody better that's fine. But don't give him a contract made in gold pressed latinum with a bunch of years on it.
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No coach that Georgia Tech could reasonably get
right now is going to generate enough excitement to make a meaningful difference in attendance just based on his name. That's not meant to be a slight on our ability to get a good coach -- we're just got a fanbase that doesn't turn out based only on potential.

Whoever it is will have to show results before we can start climbing out of the attendance valley we're currently in.

Exception is Deion, of course.
 
GTFLETCH said:
Who are the topic targets for Georgia Tech as the next head football coach?

Jeff Schultz: I know it’s been more than five weeks since Collins was fired but it’s still relatively early in the hiring process. Here are names I believe Georgia Tech could pursue, and maybe more importantly potential candidates who may be gettable.

Interim coach Brent Key won his first two games as the interim replacement for Geoff Collins, but consecutive ugly losses to Virginia and Florida State likely hurt his chances. I’m guessing the Jackets would have to finish strong in the last four games for him to have a realistic shot at the job.

One obvious candidate would seem to be former Tech assistant Bill O’Brien, who’s currently Alabama’s offensive coordinator and overlapped with new athletic director J Batt in Tuscaloosa. O’Brien looked like a better fit as a college head coach (Penn State) than in the NFL (Texans) But he might have other/better offers.

Here are some potential candidates worth looking at:

Georgia offensive coordinator Todd Monken: He’d be a great hire but I suspect his next job is back in the NFL as a coordinator and I’m not certain if he wants to be a head coach again.

Western Kentucky coach Tyson Helton: A former Tennessee assistant, he had nine-win seasons in two of his first three seasons at WKU, and in 2021 quarterback Bailey Zappe set single-season records for passing yards and touchdowns.

Coastal Carolina coach Jamey Chadwell: He’s likely to get a job in a Power 5 program in the near future and the question is whether Georgia Tech is a job he would jump at.

Army coach Jeff Monken: He has been highly successful at Army and Georgia Southern and is a former Georgia Tech assistant from the Paul Johnson tree. But hiring him would constitute an acknowledgment that the triple option is the best route to success at Georgia Tech. That may be accurate but I don’t know if Batt is there, yet.

James Madison coach Curt Cignetti: He’s not young (61) but he was a receivers coach for Nick Saban and he has succeeded in three head coaching jobs at IUP (53-17), Elon (14-9) and JMU (38-7). The Colonial to the ACC would represent a big jump, however.

Deion Sanders: I’m putting him last because at this point I just don’t have a great sense that there’s momentum to go after him, his success at Jackson State notwithstanding. I’m also not sure that Tech would be Sanders’ first choice, despite the Atlanta ties, given the academic and financial constraints for a P5 program. But he’d certainly create a buzz.


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ACC mailbag: How does the Big 12 TV deal affect ACC? And who should Georgia Tech hire?

It’s relatively early in the hiring process, but top candidates for Yellow Jackets include Bill O'Brien, Todd Monken and Jamey Chadwell.
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Useless article. Also, we are not going back to the T.O. Also hearing Willie Fritz in pole position from a good source.
 
georgiatech22 said:
He also had George Godsey in 2001 which made play calling a lot easier, look at 2002 when he had AJ Suggs, we had the 51-7 drubbing in Athens and the embarrassing mud bowl performance against Fresno State in the bowl game. Big no thank you to BOB.
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O'Leary was one of Suggs' big cheerleaders. He was all in on Suggs.
 
MACHETE said:
Useless article. Also, we are not going back to the T.O. Also hearing Willie Fritz in pole position from a good source.
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Not sure where you're hearing that, but that's interesting. I had mentioned him as a guy I'd like to see on the GT sideline. If he can get Tulane ranked with those recruits, he should absolutely win here.
 
andrew said:
No coach that Georgia Tech could reasonably get
right now is going to generate enough excitement to make a meaningful difference in attendance just based on his name. That's not meant to be a slight on our ability to get a good coach -- we're just got a fanbase that doesn't turn out based only on potential.

Whoever it is will have to show results before we can start climbing out of the attendance valley we're currently in.

Exception is Deion, of course.
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I think there is a difference in how long if would take BOB to generate excitement compared to a lot of other hires. The biggest issue with BOB isn't a question of what his potential is or how well he would do (though there is plenty of debate on that), it's that it could be hard to convince that any arguments about those things are why he was really hired and that it wasn't just all his past ties to school and AD that got him the job.

Maybe another way of saying it is that while other hires probably won't inspire instant excitement either, I think BOB would inspire a fair bit of dread around the hire due to the above reason.
 
If Bill O’Brien or Jeff Monken were hired I bet they’d be amazed at the level of talent on the roster today versus when they left GT.
 
GTLiebs said:
Maybe another way of saying it is that while other hires probably won't inspire instant excitement either, I think BOB would inspire a fair bit of dread around the hire due to the above reason.
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I think that is a reasonable take on how people on message boards would react. But I really don't that 99 percent of fans have that level of knowledge or think that much about why a guy was hired.

If we hire BOB the vast, vast majority of Tech fans would say, "Wow, Tech was able to hire a coach away from Bama? That's awesome, maybe they are serious about football finally!"

Very few would say, "Wait a minute -- the new AD is from Bama. Is it possible that connection weighed too heavily on his decision making? What about the other half dozen candidates that I've fully researched and spent weeks tracking? I can make a compelling argument for them over BOB!"

It's just that a high concentration of that second group post on message boards.
 
georgiatech22 said:
Another name that I'm surprised no one has been giving any attention to is Gary Patterson. Not sure what happened at the end of his TCU tenure but is well respected throughout the country.
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He's kinda old isn't he?
 
andrew said:
I think that is a reasonable take on how people on message boards would react. But I really don't that 99 percent of fans have that level of knowledge or think that much about why a guy was hired.

If we hire BOB the vast, vast majority of Tech fans would say, "Wow, Tech was able to hire a coach away from Bama? That's awesome, maybe they are serious about football finally!"

Very few would say, "Wait a minute -- the new AD is from Bama. Is it possible that connection weighed too heavily on his decision making? What about the other half dozen candidates that I've fully researched and spent weeks tracking? I can make a compelling argument for them over BOB!"

It's just that a high concentration of that second group post on message boards.
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I'll agree on the part about knowledge of alternatives, but a fan would have to basically not pay any attention at all to miss the two big positions being hired from the same school in a what, 3 month stretch? You can also bet any news/introduction blurb on BOB is going to mention his previous time at GT.

Normally all of that probably wouldn't strike a nerve at all with most fans, but throw in how much has been made about Stansbury/Collins/Key (and other assistant coaches) past ties to the school and there could be more attention paid. After last year when we were replacing coaches there was definitely a sentiment of "please no more tech connection hirings" among fans I know.
 
EagleSting said:
Not sure where you're hearing that, but that's interesting. I had mentioned him as a guy I'd like to see on the GT sideline. If he can get Tulane ranked with those recruits, he should absolutely win here.
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Hearing it from an inside source. A top candidate, not a done deal.
 
Some of you need your heads checked when it comes to BOB. The guy was national recruiter of the year when he was at GT under GOL. I know things have changed over last 25 years, but he knows what he’s doing.

Some of you need a reality check on where the GT job is in the pecking scale vs. some of the other open vacancies. Right now, out of Auburn, Nebraska, ASU, Wisconsin, Colorado and GT, it’s 5/6. The expectations some of you have that a Nick Saban Jr is going to walk through the doors and turn GT into a perennial 10 win program, etc is just not going to happen.
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
Some of you need your heads checked when it comes to BOB. The guy was national recruiter of the year when he was at GT under GOL. I know things have changed over last 25 years, but he knows what he’s doing.

Some of you need a reality check on where the GT job is in the pecking scale vs. some of the other open vacancies. Right now, out of Auburn, Nebraska, ASU, Wisconsin, Colorado and GT, it’s 5/6. The expectations some of you have that a Nick Saban Jr is going to walk through the doors and turn GT into a perennial 10 win program, etc is just not going to happen.
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I mostly agree with this post, except I would argue that Tech ought to be a more appealing coaching destination than most of those schools. There are clear advantages that Tech has over every school except Auburn when it comes to recruiting. Of course, everyone usually likes to point out that Tech's academics make it harder to get the recruits they want--but I would think the transfer portal could help them pick up some good players at least for a season or two. Academics aside, most young players ought to want to go to Atlanta over to almost any of these places (except Denver, CO). Auburn probably is going to be number one on that list because of the SEC, but otherwise Tech ought to be one of the more attractive jobs on the market. *ought to be*
 
Everytime I hear Jeff Schultz name I think of Brian Posehn.

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Are they the same guy?
 
Monken is laughable. For the life of me I cannot understand why people believe that Paul Johnson could not win at the end of his tenure running the triple option here and Monken can. Paul Johnson has forgotten more football than Monken understands.

It will be Chadwell. that’s our solid hire.

But it’s not gonna solve any problems if Georgia Tech cannot get out of the ACC and into the B1G IMO. The ACC is going to be dead in FB within a decade.
 
MACHETE said:
Useless article. Also, we are not going back to the T.O. Also hearing Willie Fritz in pole position from a good source.
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His record in 7 years at Tulane has been pretty underwhelming. They're 7-1 this year but they were also 2-10 last year.
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
Some of you need your heads checked when it comes to BOB. The guy was national recruiter of the year when he was at GT under GOL. I know things have changed over last 25 years, but he knows what he’s doing.

Some of you need a reality check on where the GT job is in the pecking scale vs. some of the other open vacancies. Right now, out of Auburn, Nebraska, ASU, Wisconsin, Colorado and GT, it’s 5/6. The expectations some of you have that a Nick Saban Jr is going to walk through the doors and turn GT into a perennial 10 win program, etc is just not going to happen.
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This is a loser mentality. We have a lot of positives. Just haven’t found a coach who can take advantage of them.
 
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