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Bogey

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I find this Auburn debacle very interesting, and trying to understand how their situation could ever develop. From what I have learned, it seems to me that TT was being forced to fire his assistants by Pat Dye, AD Jay Jacobs, and Lowder. Seeing the hand writing on the wall, Tubby resigned rather than give in. Then Dye and JJ picked a coach who would allow them to control the hiring of assistant coaches. Leach was not interested and Gill was never a serious candidate. Barkley is completely pissed with the hiring and there is speculation that he may withdraw his financial support of 5 BB scholies per year. This makes the situation that we had with Brainless and Chan miniscule in comparison.
The only way that Auburn can get out of this mess is to boot JJ and replace him with someone who has the gonads to tell Dye, Lowder, and company, to go to hell.
 
They claimed TT resigned but it's pretty clear that they fired him. Nobody pays a 5.1 million buy out because they "feel it's the right thing to do."
 
I believe he did resign because all the pressure he was under regarding assistant coaches. He beat them to the punch so to say, and they had to pay him or it would be a cold day in hell before they got another qualified coach to coach there after the way he was treated.
 
one of my auburn friends has suggested that there may be more to the TT story. he is saying that there may be some health issues that contributed to his resignation, but i have not been able to get any substantive info on this.
 
Word on this side of The 'Hooch, both from the Aubbies & Bammers, is Tubby's wife had an affair(s), then moved out mid-season. She had said she wanted no more of being a HC's wife and the rest is up to your imagination.

It all came together post-Iron Bowl & enough was enough. Push=Shove=$5.1M buyout & the Aubs are the laughing stock of college football.

As I heard this AM, look at the inverse: If Iowa State had gotten rid of Chizzik to get Tubby, they'd be ecstatic and praised for doing such an upgrade.

one of my auburn friends has suggested that there may be more to the TT story. he is saying that there may be some health issues that contributed to his resignation, but i have not been able to get any substantive info on this.
 
Then Dye and JJ picked a coach who would allow them to control the hiring of assistant coaches. Leach was not interested and Gill was never a serious candidate.


I don't have the link, but I either read or heard that Dye said he had NOTHING to do with the head coaching choice and wanted to distance himself as much as possible from it. (I think I read this from a link posted on Stingtalk - forgive me for not having it, but I've got a 6 day old baby at the house and am lacking sleep).

Barkley has a right to be pissed. You can never put your thumb on it because it goes on in hushed circles behind closed doors, but race plays some factor in hiring decisions.

Auburn has screwed themselves and deserve what they get.
 
Gill may not have been a good fit, but Chizik had a horrible resume. You'd be hard pressed to find a worse one. Hell, even despite a horrible season this year, Sylvester Croom has a better resume.
 
I honestly wonder if Gill didn't turn the job down.

Supposedly something like 6 coaches turned them down either before or after the interview process.
 
Word on this side of The 'Hooch, both from the Aubbies & Bammers, is Tubby's wife had an affair(s), then moved out mid-season. She had said she wanted no more of being a HC's wife and the rest is up to your imagination.

It all came together post-Iron Bowl & enough was enough. Push=Shove=$5.1M buyout & the Aubs are the laughing stock of college football.

As I heard this AM, look at the inverse: If Iowa State had gotten rid of Chizzik to get Tubby, they'd be ecstatic and praised for doing such an upgrade.

I wonder if she got hammered before one of their games and ended up doing it in a handicap stall of the men's bathroom at Jordan-Hare with some dude who was 12 years younger than her that she had just met. Oh wait, that was a different story. Nevermind.
 
HAHAhaha, this is hilarious:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=6&f=1010&t=3616571

This was an email I received earlier in the day… I assume it really happened.

Coach Chizik called his first team meeting on Sunday night after arriving from Iowa State. It looks like the welcome he received at the airport got him a little fired up. According to the athletic staff, things got pretty intense in the locker room. Apparently, in about a 15 minute period, Chizik cussed and yelled more than most men do in their entire lives.

Wearing a long black overcoat, he came in to the locker room to his new team and stood there staring at his team. He immediately began yelling at his new team that this 5-7 s**t isn't going to cut it. He talked about how the last game he coached at Auburn, they were undefeated and SEC Champions. Then he screamed that it was a g*d d**n embarrassment to win anything less than 10 games.

He went on yelling about how he recruited Quentin Groves and Stanley McGlover and that he didn't come to Auburn to have a g*d d**n losing season or even to finish last in the division. Last place is bull s**t and he came here to win Chizik then went on about how when he was at Auburn before, he never lost to Alabama. He paced back and forth yelling about how it was their g*d d**n duty to whip the s**t out of those f*****s and that it was bull s**t that they didn't score a single g*d d**n point against them this year. He said that his team was going to play hard and hit hard. G*d d****t his team was going to play with g*d d***n passion and they were going to whip some a***s No more of the spread bull s**t because they are going to line up and play offense like real f*****g men. Then he picked up a chair and shattered it against the wall. He yelled that they were going to go undefeated and when real men go undefeated, they win real g*d d**n championships because that's what he did at Texas and By God that's what they were going to do at Auburn.

He then passed a box around the room and said he wanted every g*d d**n earring in the room in the box. He isn't going to have any f*****g p***y girls on his team and wanted every piece of bull s**t earring in that box right now. The team was stunned because what they were faced with about as opposite a person as one could have to Tuberville. Chizik then took off his overcoat, threw it on the floor and started to walk towards the door and he looked back at the team as they passed around the box and said, "I'm going to walk out of here right now, and when I come back in here, I'm going to have my shirt off, and I want everyone of you motherf*****s to have your shirts off too."

He walked out and everyone, confused, started taking their shirts off. Sure enough, Chiznik walked back in, bigger than a lot of the guys on the team, without his shirt on. He started yelling and telling the team that they needed to get loud. He said, "When I point to this side of the room, I want you to say 'Hard Fightin.' When I point to this side, I want you to say, 'Soldiers.'" Standing there with no shirt on with every guy in the room shirtless, started pointing to each side of the room.
Half the team would yell, "Hard Fightin!" while the other would yell "Soldiers." Apparently it got pretty crazy and guys started flipping chairs, yelling, and throwing coolers across the room while chanting Hard Fightin.. Soldiers. He then stopped and said, "One more thing. If any of you motherf*****s thinks you can take me, you come up here and get a piece of me right now." He gave everyone an opportunity to come up and fight him and said, "That's what I thought," and walked out of the room.
 
Wow that board is delusional. I can only guess that was what the GT boards were like after Chan got hired.

Did you see the thread were people are actually excited that Ted Roof may get to be the DC? Then again, they did interview Patrick Nix for the job.
 
I heard that Pat dye made a statement that he had nothing to do with the hiring of Chiznik. He wanted to separate himself from the fallout.
 
Somewhere on their board is supposedly an email from Dye where he basically says he didn't have anything to do with the hire, but that the AD knows what is best for Auburn and he supports his decision.
 
beej

I'm fairly certain that is the apocryphal story of what happened when Ed Orgeron took the Ole Miss job.

They've just switched the names.

Coach O is crazy, so that probably actually did happen at Ole Miss.
 
Somewhere on their board is supposedly an email from Dye where he basically says he didn't have anything to do with the hire, but that the AD knows what is best for Auburn and he supports his decision.

Auburn Family,
I woke up this morning with Auburn on my mind, which is not surprising since I went to sleep with Auburn on my mind.
This is a very emotional time for the Auburn family. We all have our own opinions about what is best for Auburn and about the impact that Auburn decisions will have on our lives.
I don't expect everyone who reads this to agree with everything I say, but I just want you to know what I feel in my heart. This time of transition we are going through now reminds me of the time in 1981 when I walked into a room full of football players who had many questions and doubts about me coming in as the new head football coach.
Their frustration showed in their faces, and anxiety was in their eyes because of the unknown. I had a simple message: Whether they had come to Auburn for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, they had chosen to get their education and to play football at Auburn University, which would lay the foundation for the rest of their lives.
I told them that Auburn had chosen me and that I had chosen Auburn. I asked them as a team to be loyal to Auburn and to love Auburn. I said that I would also be loyal to Auburn and would love Auburn, and this loyalty and love would be our common ground which would lay the foundation that would serve Auburn for many years to come.
There is a lot of misinformation out there right now. The media people have their jobs to do and should have our respect for doing those jobs. But unless an individual has served as president of a major university, has been on the board of trustees of a major university, or has been athletic director or head football coach at a major university, it is hard to grasp how the people in these positions make the decisions that affect so many.
Unless you have walked in their shoes, you cannot begin to understand all that is involved in the process of making these decisions.
In addressing the current situation pertaining to our Athletic Director, Jay Jacobs, and his decision to hire Gene Chizik as our new Head Coach, I applaud all parties involved in the process for allowing Jay Jacobs to do his job.
Nobody is more qualified to make this decision than Jay. He is a true Auburn man to the bone and understands better than anybody the kind of man we need to lead our football program into the future. Gene Chizik is that man.
Because of the years I was involved in football – as a player, an assistant coach, a head coach, and as a part of teams that won championships at every level – I learned something about winning. One thing I am sure of is that I know what it takes to win. Teams where everyone played with the same heartbeat had a chance to win championships; teams that were not able to play like that never reached their full potential.
We don't need to worry about what is going on around us. We only need to be concerned about what is going on at Auburn. And being the best we can be at Auburn will take care of what is going on around us. We are an Auburn family. Let's see if we can play with the same heartbeat.
I know winning is important to the Auburn people. But so is character. Jay Jacobs has it and so does Gene Chizik. Now we'll see if they can win. They are our team. I like it. War Eagle.
Coach Pat Dye
 
BULL****!

Auburn has never been legit. They've just stepped in another pile of dookie. Not like Alabama.

Their supporters are their worst enemies.
 
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