beej would have canceled the 2006 ND game

beej67 said:
Oh hey, who were our OOC opponents in 1990?


Tennessee Chattanooga
South Carolina
Georgia


Loos like our 2009 schedule to me.
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and Virginia Tech, they were in the Big East and not that good. If we had beaten Auburn instead, MNC here we come!
 
The comparison to the 1990 season doesn't work, as we now have the BCS. The BCS says we need to be ranked #1 or #2 at the end of the season and it essentially doesn't matter who we played to get to that point.
 
...all I know is that somebody mentioned a fight




...bring it on boys! ...bring it on.

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Here's how the BCS works now that SOS has been mostly removed, you take all teams who have the fewest number of loses. It doesn't matter if you have one lose or 7, just so that no one else has lost fewer times than you. Then you rank the teams by conference.

SEC, Notre Dame, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC, Big East

You take the team or teams from the highest ranked conference (or ND). If you don't belong to a BCS conference and aren't named ND, you can't play in the BCS title game. The only exception is if you are BYU and you have beaten at least 3 BCS conference teams, and you have 2 fewer loses than the #1 or #2 ranked BCS schools.

The only way we can get into title game is to be undefeated. It is possible to for us to jump an undefeated Pac 10 team, but only if that Pac 10 school is not in California AND we beat and otherwise undefeated Georgia.
 
beej67 said:
Oh hey, who were our OOC opponents in 1990?


Tennessee Chattanooga
South Carolina
Georgia


Loos like our 2009 schedule to me.
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Yeah and how did that turn out? We couldn't even beat out a 1 loss team that needed a 5th down to win another game for the AP championship.
 
WracerX said:
Here's how the BCS works now that SOS has been mostly removed, you take all teams who have the fewest number of loses. It doesn't matter if you have one lose or 7, just so that no one else has lost fewer times than you. Then you rank the teams by conference.

SEC, Notre Dame, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC, Big East

You take the team or teams from the highest ranked conference (or ND). If you don't belong to a BCS conference and aren't named ND, you can't play in the BCS title game. The only exception is if you are BYU and you have beaten at least 3 BCS conference teams, and you have 2 fewer loses than the #1 or #2 ranked BCS schools.

The only way we can get into title game is to be undefeated. It is possible to for us to jump an undefeated Pac 10 team, but only if that Pac 10 school is not in California AND we beat and otherwise undefeated Georgia.
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Sounds pretty accurate to me.
 
Schedule for 4 years?

beej67 said:
Well, I guess that depends on what your goals are, and whether you're willing to approach your goals rationally.

If your goal is to win a national championship, then the course is clear. Schedule patsies, go undefeated. Check (cough) Notre Dame's schedule recently? Yeah. They're not playing Georgia Techs any more. Not since the BCS caved to the AP and changed the formula to remove SOS.

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What if instead of scheduling one year at a time, like we are currently discussing, we schedule on a multi-year plan? For example, this year (and last year) our likelihood of playing for the National Championship is slim for numerous reasons. Our best next opportunity is when Nesbitt is a senior. So, what if this year we scheduled a tough out of conference opponent to get some "street creed" and then have a light schedule (UAB or somebody) to play the BCS MNC raffle next year. It would take some fine coordinating between the head coach and AD to pull off on a regular basis; but basically set up the schedule and team to contend for the NC every 3rd or 4th year? Or maybe go all out every other year, whenever the HC thinks he can have the team ready for a major run. My intent would be to stay in the top 15 even in our off years.

I think playing these big OOC games would get us the national attention we need; but without consistently putting a MNC in jeopardy. Those wanting the big game would get their itch scratched. Plus, there is no reason why you can't win a MNC in your off year, it would just be a bonus. I realize how tough the scheduling could be; but that's why we pay DRad the big $$$ right?
 
I think the Falcons should return to the black jersey/red helmet. Stomp some ass. Make a statement.
 
Considering Tech hasn't won an outright ACC Championship in almost 20 years, this entire thread is akin to debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
 
kirbee said:
Considering Tech hasn't won an outright ACC Championship in almost 20 years, this entire thread is akin to debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
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you mean, if the head of a pin actually had some sort of fixed designated and standardized size so that one could actually objectively and scientifically evaluate how many angels can dance on the surface. you would probably have to come up with a density figure and then extrapolate for some standardized "pin head" area.
 
beej, when was the last time a good OOC opponent decided who got into the NC game?
 
Although this is my first post, I've been reading the board for a long time, so I know agreeing with GTKyle in my first post is risky. However, in this case, I happen to agree with him. A lot of people have mentioned how playing tougher OOC teams makes going undefeated harder. While this may be true, I looked back at the last 5 years and only found two cases of teams losing only one regular season game (which happened to be an OOC game). The first was Louisville vs. Miami in 2004 and the the other was WVU vs. VT in 2005. Although I am not certain, I think the WVU/VT game likely had something to do with VT changing conferences. In 2004, even had UL beaten Miami, they still probably would not have made the MNC. Moreover, a lot of people said they would be willing to play teams like USCe, Miss. St., etc. instead of Jax St. I'm guessing most people would not be willing to play USF, KU, or Oregon St. However, if we can't beat those teams, then we probably aren't good enough to win an MNC anyway. So I guess my question is, what are some other teams people would be willing to play?
 
I wonder how many teams lost 1 game in conference because they had to play a tough OOC game the week before.

I'm not saying we should schedule pansies. I'm just saying scheduling lesser opponents would increase our chances of getting to the championship game, which seems to be the goal.

I only want 1 Jax St.-like opponent though. Other than that, I think our ACC Schedule + Uga is tough enough. I would like some decent opponents that can win but that we are favored against. Examples:
Big 10- Illinois/Mich St.
Pac 10 - UCLA/Az
SEC - Vandy/Miss St/S.C.
Big 12 - Neb/Kan St/Texas A&M
Big East - Syracuse/South Fl
Others - N.D./Miami of Ohio/Boise St./Hawaii/BYU/Utah
 
I wonder how many teams lost 1 game in conference because they had to play a tough OOC game the week before.
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I'm not sure. I'll take a look at that later, but I don't think it was very many.

I would like some decent opponents that can win but that we are favored against. Examples:
Big 10- Illinois/Mich St.
Pac 10 - UCLA/Az
SEC - Vandy/Miss St/S.C.
Big 12 - Neb/Kan St/Texas A&M
Big East - Syracuse/South Fl
Others - N.D./Miami of Ohio/Boise St./Hawaii/BYU/Utah
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Because the schedules are made so far in advance, I'm not sure that we would be scheduled against Mich. St., UCLA, Nebraska, etc. in 5 years (or whenever we play them). That's why it's such a crapshoot. I'm not saying we should play OU or UF every year. However, imagine playing Oregon the second weekend of the year. Both teams are ranked in Top-15. The game might be the ABC Sat. Night game. So not only do you get a national TV audience, you are also exposed to recruits in Oregon. (Substitute UCLA and you get exposure to Calif.) And then yes, it is reasonable to want to play a UF or (t)OSU at least twice (one series) every 15 years. I wouldn't do that until we get some real depth, but if we are able to consistently be a Top-15 team, then bring on the big boys. MNCs are great, but the odds are against every team, and if we were to actually beat a UF, lose to Va. Tech, and the win then rest, that will help us get to the MNC.
 
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